500 Superfast, the Royal Ferrari

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  1. miurasv

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    Pullicino Classics had for sale a black Superfast between 1995 and 1996 that had allegedly belonged to Peter Sellers. I think it was RHD. I'll have to check my Classic Car Magazines to check the adverts when I have time to dig them out. Does anyone know what c/n this car is?
     
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    s/n for the ex'Sellers 500 Superfast is 6679 SF
     
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    I don't think the black car that Pullicino Classics had for sale in 1995 - 1996 was the same car, unless it was actually painted black at that time, though I doubt it. Again not sure but I think it was a Series 1.
     
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    Where is the first 500 Superfast, s/n 5951 GT, now? Is car still exist? Last known photos?
     
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    #156 Ferri, Jun 24, 2012
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    5951 is this weekend at Concours d'Elegance Paleis Het Loo in Apeldoorn, Netherlands. Car has been restored by Touring in Milano (I).

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    Wow! Even original hood was added (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268592). Hugo, thanks a lot for sharing that! Do you know what year car has been restored?
     
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    Very similar....
     
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    But I think that's another car. That photo was taken at the Ferrari factory yard.
     
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    #161 carvad, Jun 24, 2012
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    500 Superfast threads at the FChat that I was able to find:

    500 SF, s/n 6351: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351870

    500 SF, s/n 6049: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268540

    500 SF, s/n 5951: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268592

    500 SF Exhaust System: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232709

    Original colour used on a Ferrari 500 Superfast: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205539

    500 Superfast ad in Road & Track,may 1969: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202151

    Correct period stopwatches for 500 SF/SWB: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=179199

    500 SF: Superfast - How many fabricated?: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176200

    500 Superfast market: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=166360

    Valve timing for 500 Superfast engine: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77935
     
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    Completed in 2012.

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    Hugo, thank you for info.
     
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    I recently found the 500 SF original blueprint by Pininfarina. Unfortunately only in low resolution :(. Does anybody has this image in better quality?

    http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9161/file251.jpg

    I am especially interested in the date when this blueprint was painted.
     
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    Hi,

    I haven't seen any imahes with M.R. Pahalavi, but I understand he had two. This is the one that is still in Iran and is now in the National Motor Museum. I will post some more pictures shortly.

    Enjoy

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    Ramin, thanks a lot for sharing that. It's s/n 6605 SF, first of two shah's Superfasts. Please, post more pictures.
     
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    I understand one was destroyed in an accident while driven by a Royal of some sort or another. Does anyone know which number this was? Anyone know what happened to the powertrain?

    Just curious!
     
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    Are you talking about one of the Shah's 500 Supefast? Both car are still in good condition.

    As I know only one 500 Superfast was fully destroyed and no longer exists. It's #6345. See post #123 in this thread. I haven't any info what happened with engine... May be Mr. Marcel Massini or Mr. Boudewijn Berkhoff can help.
     
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    Hi,

    My understanding is that the other car was sold off before the revolution and now resides in England. I have no reason to believe that it was ever damaged.

    I would appreciate any past history of the car in Iran, if available. I.e was it delivered in Iran ? or did it go to Switzerland first as was the case of the Miura SVJ etc. and some of the Shah's other cars. As promised, here are some more photos. Photo credits belong to my friend Keyvan Moradi.

    Enjoy !

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    Did you know that 500 Superfast could be equipped with an "assist" that alloed the driver to open the passenger's door without moving out from behind the steering wheel?

    How did this "assist" functioned?
     
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    Does anybody know what was the original price for 500 Superfast? I have the different info: 24,400 dollars and 29,300 dollars... What price is correct?
     
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    It was £11,000 at the Earls Court Motor Show in 1964.

    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/motor-show-earls-court-1
     
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    Price for 6043:

    April 14, 1965 Factory invoiced for Italian Lire 11’000’000 plus another Italian Lire 1’051’624 for extras to Hanson.
     
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    Exchange rate in 1964 was about 0.36 PDS = 1 USD

    With all extras you were looking at close to 14,000 PDS = ~38,800 USD

    11,000 PDS would be ~30,500 USD
     
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    Tnank you for info, Alex. But now I have the 3rd start prise for 500 Superfast :)
     
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    People can correct me if I'm wrong but I think there was no standard price for the Superfast. Each one was a little bespoke and I'm sure prices varied quite a bit, particularly as Enzo loved to charge a little more to some clients and a little less to others....


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    Anyone know the serial number or have pics of the 275 (GTS or GTB?) rumored to run the engine from 6345SF?

    Originality arguments aside, the big-motor/small-car hot rod formula will never grow old to my eyes. :)

    Happy Holidays everybody!
     
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    275 GTS s/n 7171.
     
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    I came across this thread as I occasionally search on 6679SF. I came across this car back in the 1980/90s when it was owned by a neighbour. I had seen him driving up the road (usually early on a Sunday morning) to give the car its Italian tune-up. When I eventually managed to speak to him about it I was thrilled to discover it was the actual Peter Sellers car as, when my brother and I were teenagers we fantasised about the 500 Superfast we had heard about when PS picked it up.

    The car was in concourse condition (in fact the owner was just touching in the red paint inside the exhaust tips) and he insisted I sit in it and have a good look at everything. In fact he had had the car restored to original condition, even insisting that the radio was repaired rather than replaced as Britt Ekland had adjusted the dials back in the day. Later that day I phoned my brother and told him I had just seen the ultimate Ferrari and he guessed immediately which car it was.

    I was later very lucky to be able to drive the car (after first stalling it unfortunately) and its huge power was impressive. When my brother next visited me we spent a very pleasant tea sitting in the Superfast's garage admiring the car.

    When the owner moved away he kindly gave my son one of the photographs he had commissioned and it hangs to this day on his bedroom wall.

    I understand that the car is now in Belgium.
     
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    Thanks for sharing.

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    In Cavallino 193 is mentioned that 500 Superfast cost in 1966 about 11,500 Br Pounds.

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    Just opened my latest copy of Classic & Sports Car and see that two superfasts are up for auction in the next few months. 6661 at Goodwood Festival of Speed in July and 5985 at Pebble Beach in August.

    With only 36 in existence, what are the chances?
     
  43. Edward 96GTS

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    many cars changing hands these days. some think they are buying at the bottom, some think they are selling at the top.
     
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    demand is high for such a rare great car so i think really high
     
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    Yes that is what indeed makes a market. Time will tell who is smart and who is not ;)
     
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    This is the ex Sellars car, when it was owned by Sir George Burton in the mid 80s, probably at about the time referred to by XRS.

    Apologies for the quality but these are scans from transparencies.
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    I know the owner of this car who had it after Sir George Burton (the chairman of Fison's, I believe). I suspect it was in the ownership of my man at the time these pictures were taken as he had a protracted campaign to return the car to its original registration number after it had had a personalised plate for a while.
    Coincidentally I bumped into him the other day and we stood chatting for a while. I had to be careful as he is now 86, though looking very good on it. If you have any more pictures I would love to see them.
     
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    I think I have, but please bear with me as I am working through several thousand slides accumulated in 40 years or so of Ferrari spotting!

    I saw this car when it was new and had the GYK registration, Soon afterwards Sellars used PS1216 on it.

    J
     
  50. Edward 96GTS

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    was their driving characteristics similar to a queen mother or vastly different?
     
  51. BIRA

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    In all fairness and market dynamics, depends also what the seller paid for it...if you made 10 times your money you may leave a further upside for the next buyer,,,so both parties are actually smart..or at leat happy. Not all trade are simple game theory, I win- You lose or vice versa...
     
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    Edward,

    As the chassis is basically the same as a 330GT (2+2), I suspect that the handling is closer to the 330GT than the 365GT.

    Regards,

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