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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by 500tr, Jul 22, 2017.
And Mbzgirl to flame everyone. Now that would be hilarious
May the Show begin.........
No, we most certainly do not. The world has enough problems as it is. Gluttons for punishment, the lot of you.
As a Ferrari fan Im very happy to see 0636 MDTR surface again.
This was one of the first Ferraris I saw in person at the Oldtimer Grand Prix 1995 (see pic Bert I was there too ;-)).
And as a lawyer I can say: The truth is what you can proof (with contracts or persons).
Unfortunately, if big money is involved, there are more than 2 stories about the case.
But if a insurance company is involved in the case I bet that very clear contracts exits, who bought what and who sold what (which is often not the cause if only private parties are involved, like the Cleve / Swaters case).
Hope that this discussion will be cleared very fast and to see the car very soon at an event.
Awww. Party pooper.
That's correct, and one day Schaefer and Spielmann will sit side by side in this beautiful car driving towards Passo Della Futa 😎
...therefor you first have to steal the car!
Did after the theft the insurer pay loss damage to Walter Schäfer? If yes, why did not get property of car and title transferred to the insurer? And after: why should the insurer not be able to sell car and title? And as always: not lawyers, experts or profit is the issue here but history. May we kindly learn, how, where and in what state this important car got found and brought after to Germany and who the owner is today?
For those interested, there is a small movie on my Instagram (fer340am) from 1995.
Wait, I didn't think you could own a Testarossa in Germany!
Something smells in these post, it’s fairly clear. Herr S and Herr VS are going to fast into the frying pan. That fire fanning ‘’ owner will be smiling’’ sounds a little too familiar…….. It looks like someone is testing the water to see if it’s safe to come out of hiding.
In many, many cases, the insurance company does not hold the ''rights'' on a pay out but often, as they did with me, granted all my recovery rights if I can locate my own stolen art-work (officially) . Simply put, the future value is not liquidated on property stolen and paid out the day of the theft. In fact, as our countryman Kleve did on the 375 plus he sold to Swaters, make it complicated and sprinkle in some crazy, hire a lawyer with no license and you are on the road to the Passo Della Futa.
Fast forward on post 2345 – the guy causing the most stink wins. It’s never about the law, ask any Ohio Ferrari Lawyer.
Why two different hoods?
now I'm also informed, that my ex-car is back!
It's incredible what is all possible and it hurts to read the posts.
To answer and correct some posts:
The AXA insurance has never paid 500.000. The car was insured for 352.000 and that is, was the AXA has paid (+ interest).
The AXA insurance was informed about the found parts in 1997. But AXA was not interested on them. AXA has allways written, that the car is'nt stolen. Therefore I have sold them 10 years later to Volkmar Spielmann.
Ralph Stefano has crashed the car and the engine in 1966. He has installed the 12 cylinder engine 1893/GT in 1967, but the hood was to low. Therefore he cut out the lower hood and increased them. I remember me exactly, because in winter 1995/96 I have restored the car and made a new hood that looks a little bit nicer.
At the same time, I have closed the 2 air slots top of the body.
Thank you Walter for your statement and for sorting out some important details.
So I seem to be not a thief, maybe...
The first picture shows 0636/MDTR at WM Vaca Valley 1958-10-05.
The second picture shows the car 1995 as I have bought from Traber.
The third picture shows the car 1996 after the restoration.
I still own the hood from second picture (made by Ralp Stefano, AL/USA).
I suppose Ralph Stefano used the original hood and just modified it for the different engine.
So you might have the original hood. That's not that bad. Take care of it.
And your replacement is still with the car, as everybody can see.
Due to his statements today at German law court 'Landgericht Konstanz', this gentleman sold the beautiful car only a few days after getting possession of it, on July 24, to a unkwown person it's name and the conditions of sale he is definitely not willing to let us all know although the court asked him twice. In German language: "Ein Schelm, der Böses dabei denkt".