Countach 25th Anniversario

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    The Last-of-a-Series Countach named the 25th Anniversary or 'Anniversario' represents the dividing line between old & new of the cars from Sant Agata sports car maker Lamborghini, because the Countach model was Ferruccio Lamborghini's Swan Song. 25 years marks the first half of the life of Lamborghini as a brand, and this car signals the end of an era, and the beginning of a new one.

    With its Pagani-designed bodywork & strakes, Marmirolli-engineered drivetrain and Munari-developed aggressive stance, some say it is the Countach Anniversario is the Usain Bolt of Countachs: taut, muscular, poised, fast-looking whist standing still, with a disposition that says one thing only - speed. Others say its the ugliest & least desirable Countach of all, regularly shunned, & often maligned.

    The Celebration Countach is the result of 17 years of incremental development of the Countach LP112 concept, a staggering time-frame over which to develop any car, and as a result the ultimate variant of the line of the most famous Sports Car of all time is a worthy one. Changes to the Countach QV to become the 25th Anniversario meant a complete re-styling & re-design of the car's entire bodywork, wheels, interior, & suspension changes. New Pirelli PZeros were fitted to cap off an impressive array of upgrades.

    The Anniversario drives with confidence, and is tight & balanced, solid on the road with rifle-bolt precise gearshift action. Built solid with reliability to match, it is pure pleasure to drive. With great handling, a few days behind the wheel will verify what difference multiple small upgrades over the QV bring to the car's character. Well-built and thoroughly engineered, the Countach Finale is a Sports Car for all seasons, a car that needs nothing (but a driver). If you have driven any of the early variants of the Countach prior to driving a Countach, the one thing you'll immediately realize is that the Anniversario feels like a mature version, one that delivers what it promises every time.

    Ridiculed for its flamboyant styling, the Anniversario has been overlooked & under-appreciated. But perhaps, the Anniversario has begun to come into its own, and those who have sampled what it has to offer think of its as the Countach's best kept secret. As we all know, perceptions can & will change over time, and cars that live in obscurity can come to prominence.

    The Anniversary Countach is almost 25 years old (1988), and so at last it qualifies as a bona-fide classic. Its also been 40 years since the Countach was green-lighted for production, so what better time to take a trip down memory lane, extoll the virtues & wax lyrical about the last version of the iconic Countach. Or just gather round and commiserate about the Countach variant that so many love to hate, for whatever reason.
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    A mixture of USA fuel-injected & Eu/ROW carbureted cars came down the 'line together.
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    A USA-bound 25th ready for assembly in October 1988.
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    One of half-a-dozen silver 25th Anniversarios comes to completion
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    Spats & side-skirts already fused, a pair of Rosso bodies await completion.
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    Chrysler quality control was brought to bear upon the production of the 25th.
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    Build & prep for the 25th was an in-house affair at Sant Agata. A quartet of cars gets closer to paint.
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    Most 25th were red, white, black, yellow etc. But as we will see later in this thread there was an impressive array of colors made-to-order, some not seen on previous Countach variants.
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    A completed USA car, with an Eu/ROW car up ahead.

    Roughly translated the sign says: "The next test driver will be the client, make sure he is satisfied".

    Hopefully, 25th drivers were..
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    Kind thanks to premier Lamborghini historian Stefano Pasini whose words from 1988 (& recent discussions) were instrumental in inspiring this thread.

    More to come...
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    Joe, I'm a new Lamborghini owner and your post are outstanding! Thanks, and please continue!

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    Totally agree. Love these pics. Very cool.
     
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    Lets see, the 25th Anv Countach is FAT, lousy brakes, same engine as the early QV car, transmission except for the different out put gear were the same.
    The 25th transmission had a lower 1st gear and overall transmission ratio than the early QV cars. Lamborghini did this to over come the now FAT Countach, so it would have a better off the line performance, but at a cost of top speed.
    The brakes for the 25th car were the same as used on the LP400S car, which weighed around 3200 lb and now used on the 25th car which now weighs around 3600 or more pounds.
    The seats were, are junk, they do not hold the driver in place like the early seat did. The 25th car was only missing a boom box stereo and cup holders, it is a wonder it did not have cruise control also. The 25th became the lazy drivers car, with power windows and power seat, like you really need stuff like that.

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    1000% with you Chad.
    Even the suspension is the same, the only thing that changed was the Toe-in at the rear axle...
     
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    Really interesting factory pictures.
    This 25th thread is going to be great.
    Please post more pics like that.
    Happy new year to all on this forum!
     
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    You can find them in the Book "Lamborghini Countach" by Brian Laban from 1989.

    Other interesting pictures from the production process in Stefano Pasisni' "Famous Car Factories", also showing a lot of the production lines.
     
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    I think in fact I have that book somewhere.
    Haven't looked in it for ages.
    It is good to see the photos here and being discussed.
     
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    Great pictures Joe! Thanks for sharing! I really love seeing ones of the factory back in the day! Very cool! I realize that some out there feel the 25th is the ugliest, but for some reason it's always been one of my favorite models. I think it's a beautiful car!
     
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    Chad, the 25th's brakes are not the same as the LP400S's units. The only similarity they share is the fact that they are from ATE. In fact, if you installed 25th brakes on an LP400S, it would actually stop better and be less susceptible to fade.

    Best,
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    A note on seats: the 25th's standard units are electrically-adjustable two-piece units. In fact, they hold the driver in place as well, if not better that the earlier seats, courtesy of the earlier unit's "banana" shape. Given the range of adjustment afforded by the 25th's seats, they are very comfortable, and allow the driver to settle properly in place. To me, they make a Countach safer to drive fast because I am truly where I want to be, rather than being forced to be in the only place the seat allows. They are definitely progress.
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    These pics give an idea of the shape of the 25th's seats. Shoulders & neck feel better too, over any great distance.
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    I have the library of images, some of which were used in those books, and more besides. They were mostly factory-sponsored press pool images, and I will share more here.
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    I also have a load of press images, some of which I am sure have not been seen before.
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    And some rare launch period Euro press.

    Valentino catching air!!
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    Automovil December 1988
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    25th carb car put through its paces
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    Here is ZAC005AOKLA12887 coming down the line. This car is cherished today, and still in Italy.
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    Auto Hebdo Sport, October 1988. This mag details Sandro Munari's involvement in the development of the 25th Anniversario.
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    More within. And Sandro Munari behind the wheel. Because of his penchant for suits and sport coats, most thought he was purely administrative PR. But the fact is that the ex-World Rally Champion set up the 25th with many miles of testing.
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    Speaking of the World Rally Driving Champion, Stefano Pasini met Sandro Munari last week on the afternoon of Thursday December 27th 2012 to discuss the 25th Anniversario a bit for the benefit of all of us (! Exclusive) - Sandro told Stefano that he did his best to fine-tune the chassis and that the 25th Anniversario used uprated dampers/springs

    Stefano also notes:
    "the Anniversary was .... born out of the necessity to present a ‘new’ model for the celebrations of the 25th birthday of Lamborghini Automobili in*1988; it was conceived when the original Gandini design for the real Countach replacement ('Tipo 132') was rejected by Chrysler."

    "Actually the Anniversary was more pleasant to drive than the QV, but this is probably due to the progress in component quality and to the better overall comfort of the car."

    "The Anniversary was also the first project where the Italian engineers had to work with their Chrysler counterparts"
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    Hands of the master. Munari's involvement with the car is overlooked by many and forgotten by the rest. I recall seeing him drive a Diablo at Nardo at 200 mph+ in suit & tie! The man had style, he still does.
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    The 25th Anniversario put through its paces in testing by Sandro.
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    Joe thankyou for your time and efforts with your research, prior to, starting this thread. I find it interesting learning about each and every Countach built, stored, restored, abused then brought back to life, bought/sold, ect.... Your input of knowledge and photography is very impressive and enjoyed.

    Seeing the factory photos, I can't help but wonder if one of those cars could be the one I own now.

    I can't help but chuckle when I read that the anni. is a piece of **** because it uses so many of the same parts from all of the previous Countaches.

    Anyway, keep up the good work Joe, hopefully the SNIVELING will keep to minimum so the thread can remain interesting!!
     
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    In September 1988 there was an invitation to a party...
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    And a Press Release from Chrysler!
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    Accompanied by this black-and-white image
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    And this caption - apologies my scanner would not allow the image & caption together...
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    Got a part # of a gear that differs from a QV?

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    Considering the 25th's short gestation period, it is a really astonishing car: the quality over previous Countachs, far superior interior with electric systems (which actually made for a better/safer driving position), makes all the difference in using the car. The styling whilst subjective is really aggressive. Whilst not the most beautiful, it is certainly the most functional, and I think like many classic cars perhaps its appeal is growing over time. Perhaps just like some thought the last version of the Miura was too fat (SV), in the end it became valued for its reliability and development over the previous variants. I think Sandro Munari is being very modest because the suspension upgrades with completely new split-rim wheels and new P Zero tires involved a lot of testing and make for a night-and-day handling over previous Countachs. By the way, all my opinions & findings are based on hands-on personal use, ownership experience, maintenance and dealings with dozens and dozens of all the different variants of Countachs. Quality-wise, the 25th is another world from earlier Countachs (I have owned everything from LP400 onwards) and whilst the 25th can be slighted as being undesirable, so the earlier cars can sometimes be said to have an amateurish finish that leaves a lot to be desired by comparison. Earlier versions are notoriously fragile and unreliable too, at least compared to the 25th. I have one client who owns LP400, LP500S and 25th, and he says: "Joe, I only take my wife in the 25th for good reason!!". Anyway, reading Pasini's words in Lamborghini Revista No 2 from 25 years ago inspired me to start a thread on these cars and just share some information, if nothing else. I have publicly said many times "All the versions of Countach are great for different reasons", and I still think this will remain so. But I do think the 25th has been a bit unfairly overlooked and needs a little 'help'. The reason it has been overlooked? The usual one: not enough hands-on experience, lack of exposure etc. By the time the 25th was a factor, it was time for journalists to talk about the Diablo. Anyway, at least we can say the true purpose of a Countach is for Driving, and in this area the 25th is peerless.

    Lets remember this as we look at these Schlegelmilch images of the 25th tested by Le Mans winner Paul Frere below: "Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder"!
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    Tipo USA Countach 25th dimensions
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    How many remember Salsomaggiore, September 1988?
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    I'll admit that when the anniversary Countach came out, I didn't like it. I think because the car was such an icon that any change seemed like sacrilege! The straked styling seemed way too similiar to the Testarossa...I hated them on the Countach. I also thought the power windows & seats to be unnecessary.
    However, now I really love it! The strakes & body changes give it a real flow. Reminds me of a wild cat with its ears layed flat, or a falcon in a dive, all tucked in for more speed. The bumbers are also very integrated looking. (OK, maybe not the front U.S.) While the power windows & seats aren't really needed, they do give it a modern flair, keeping the car up to date with items that were practically expected in a new car.
    I find it incredible that the Countach was even built for as long as it was, with relatively few changes. The anniversary edition is a very fitting final version of the car. I love it as much as the other versions. I don't think I could really choose a favorite...they are all Countach!
    I'm really going to enjoy this thread & also look forward to building a couple scale versions as well :)
     
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    Launch party, Chrysler-Lamborghini style. An American-Italian is born.
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    Ferruccio was there to give Lee his blessing
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    And Lee gazed lovingly upon the 25th and likely thought: "I'd like one or two of these for myself". He ended up with at least 2.
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    Next thing you know, the girls from Trussardi arrived
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    September 1988
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    If I may....this is a favorite of mine taken during a photo opt for a MakeAWish event.
    She's now sporting a euro front bumper.(much nicer look)
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    The end of an era. Ferruccio & Lee @ the 25th.
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