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Discussion in 'LamborghiniChat.com' started by joe sackey, Oct 25, 2015.
Dang Nils, that is an impressive list.
Note to self: if I ever have an affair...don't take the Countach!
I have rich friends, LOL
I think compared to many contemporary Supercars, our cars are relatively simple to maintain, and will be regarded to be even more so with the passage of time.
During the course of the Mimran Downdraft's restoration last year, we invited a number of people to come by and give us some feedback along the way.
Cam and Vale with his head in the wheel-arch discussing suspension geometry.
Beautiful Austrian-registered Downdraft that runs with the German Club.
Flashback - Raymond had the Mimran Downdraft with the German Club also, I'm guessing this is @ 7 years ago.
Almost, it's 5 years ago Lamborghini Countach #GLA12997 LCCG Schwaebisch Hall
That Picture was from the Audi factory in Neckarsulm where we visited the R8 production line.
This is my favorite: http://www.countach.ch/LCCG/Hall_2012/Hall%20(3).JPG
What a great shot!
Thank you Raymond for all the documentation.
What is that blue gullwing car next to the Mimran Countach?
Looks like an Isdera?
Isdera Imperator, this car was the original for the spark model in 1/43.
Side by side with GLA12997: http://www.countach.ch/LCCG/Hall_2012/Hall%20(34).JPG
Is it possible that some of the later ones came with the front body panels flush with the windscreen instead of the standard slightly raised at the corner?
Not from the factory, if you've seen a car like that perhaps the body panels or windscreen gave been retrofitted incorrectly, or its a replica.
From the excellent SUPERCAR CLASSICS magazine piece on Miura, Countach & Diablo, rare Rosso/Blu livery shown.
Professional detailer @ work on Harry's Downdraft, before & after
Random IG image shot of the GLA12997's wheel reflecting red from the carpet we were invited to park on in Carmel
Jeffrey Zwart-photographed LHD Nero Tenebre/Panna Downdraft from the Road & Track magazine factory visit in the summer of 1986, a rare combination (usually black is paired with black, red, tan etc), any chassis number ideas appreciated.
I have begun converting my DD to a euro body and started with the back.
The removal was pretty basic and the installation of the trapezoidal reflector/lights/etc... fit perfectly.
I need to drill holes to install the logos on the back plate.
Does any one have placement dimensions?
John, you certainly do not waste any time!
I'll use this illustration of an image of my car to pull some actual dimensions as best as I can make them.
John, here you are, approximate dimensions in inches as best as my hands & eyes could make them, based off a factory-built unmodified Downdraft, so I'm reasonably sure these are numbers you can work with.
I would imagine that this could be used for any car that has the Tipo USA rear panel.
When you get to the aftermarket side-skirts, let's have a word, there are some concerns I see with many cars that perhaps you can avoid.
IG image captioned by the poster:
"Euro-spec, wingless Countach casually cruising down Carmel.
And it has gold wheels.
This was in fact on Ocean Drive, in Carmel.
The problem you run into with IG images is that unlike the resolution quality maintained by images re-posted from say Flickr, if you re-post these anywhere as people like to do, the image quality suffers significantly https://www.instagram.com/p/BYtRpv-nlX_/?tagged=countach
FWIW some nice comments made.
As an aside, I’m @ 6’ 2” plus tall, and I must say whereas I barely fit properly in any of the various four-liter Countachs I owned, I am super-comfortable driving this one.
Just FWIW if anyone needs blueprint dimensions for the Downdraft I'm able to accommodate.
Thank you Joe!
Those dimensions are perfect!!!
So far all the parts (Thanks Emilio!) fit perfectly. The rear euro mod is only taking a few hours.
My car will be completely repainted. There are holes that were drilled (Hold the US bumper assembly) that need to be filled. Once I relocate the logos to the back plate, the back is done. I will remove everything before paint and then reinstall when I get the car back from the painter.
I will also be removing the US side maker lights and making the car are accurate to euro spec that I can.
I intend to freshen up the interior (its in pretty good shape) but install the correct stereo deck.
I doing this over the winter to be ready for May next year.
I have to say, this is so much fun.
If you guys want, I can post pictures.
hey Joe thanks for answering my PM about the missing part I need on my climate control panel on my Diablo lol
1987 R&T magazine flashback:
"The Countach flew by in an absolutely spine-chilling scream of wind & engine noise, and disappeared into its own rooster-tail of atomized rainwater".
Below, the GTO driven by Michael Gabel and the Downdraft by Valentino Balboni.
Blu Acapulco Downdraft and Miura S @ Chantilly Arts & Elegance.
Joe, I believe you asked what the weight of the Countach rear spoiler might be earlier in this thread. Well, I can tell you it's 8.084kg, having weighed mine this afternoon.
I've entered the car into the Concorso d'Eleganza Lamborghini & Design 2017 event next weekend in Switzerland and thought it best to present my Countach QV with the rear wing reattached, as that was how it was supplied when new. FYI, the wing will be coming off once I get back home, as I much prefer the design of the car with the wing removed..
Thank you for that Harry!
In addition to the weight, I wonder how much drag it causes at high speed, and, given that these units were allegedly never wind-tunnel tested and definitely not Homologated, I always wonder if the angle of attack of the wing plane works for or against lift over the front & rear ends respectively.
Either way, have a superb trip to beautiful Switzerland.
Are you sure it is panna interior?
It looks like it, but if you can tell me the chassis number we can confirm.
Were the images taken in Italy?
Yes, they were taken in Italy.
Jeffrey Zwart the photographer accompanied Larry Crane and editor TC Browne to Sant Agata for a major Road & Track piece, early in the summer of 1986.
Whilst they were there, Jeffrey also took images of the Mimran Downdraft coming down the 'line, which, incidentally, also had a Panna interior.
Perhaps there was a deal on Panna at the leather suppliers that month...
At any rate, any chassis number ideas on the black Downdraft?
I was thinking GLA12904 if you have this as nero panna but it was consigned before GLA12997 was on the line...
Looking again I am wondering if there are two cars in those images. GLA12981 was bleu acapulco panna and fits the timing perfectly.
Thanks for this, very interesting.
Yes, some magazines would use multiple cars, although, thumbing through the original copy I have in my hands, the car used in the inside feature is very definitely non-metallic black, however you could make a case for the car featured on the cover being Blu Acapulco.
I'm hoping to have Jeffrey Zwart go through his entire box of 'slides from that trip one day, and I daresay the originals should reveal more definitive information.
What do you do about the holes when you take the wing off?
I have a roll of red insulation tape that's near an exact match to the red paint on the Countach. 99% of people never spot it's there!
I have filled the holes and had the boot lid repainted in the past too but the tape works well as a temporary fix..
Ok then, one more possibility. HLA12906 nero champagne consigned end December 87 but built end March 86. Perhaps a factory demonstrator fitted with replacement interior before consignment... VB might remember since he is in one of the images...
Thank you for this one also.
VB and chassis numbers...
He remembered the chassis number of my car because he drove it on many occasions. ..
Downdraft FLA12824's owner reports:
"Joe, thought you'd want the final numbers on the Downdraft. It generated 479 HP max @ 6,700 ROM, with 404 max torque @ 5,500 RPM. Just wrapped up a weekend with my wife at the Goodwood Revival, off to Italy for a Lamborghini Factory Tour tomorrow. Incidentally, only adjustment to factory set-up was increase in compression to 10.5:1, otherwise straightforward engine rebuild which was fully blueprinted & balanced. Incidentally final dyno numbers with factory cams and a new OEM exhaust. Engine runs quite smoothly as well".
Thank you for sharing Jude, dyno sheet attached courtesy of his restoration shop on the East Coast.
Meanwhile, I'm not sure there is continuing interest in this, but we have three (3) other Downdrafts that will make it on the dyno in due course, two standard production cars and a factory tuned car, the former 2 will be compared with a standard production Fuelie as a base comparison.
As an aside, when it comes to performance testing one day, I'd love to see if the Road & Track 1987 test which revealed similar performance numbers between the Downdraft and my other favorite car, the 288 GTO, will be duplicated. Something tells me from personal driving experience that a well-tuned Downdraft will be a formidable opponent for a GTO, and can be marginally faster both from zero to sixty and at terminal velocity.
Spent some time getting the Mimran Downdraft clean again, ready for a small event upcoming.
Cleaning?? This thing is gorgeous from it's restoration day, no need to clean it!!
The dyno graph looks good. Lotsssss of power in that engine.
The most astonishing thing to me is the Torque. 404lb!! Thats some Italian muscle right there. Truly Italy's most wild muscle car ever, the Downdraft.