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Countach Downdraft 1985 to 1988.5

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    I'll ask my shop when things quiet down a bit. Meanwhile, Raymond, can you help Ken?
     
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    Thank you for your kind words Roy.
     
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    All I can say is that its insured for at least that and Ive got the documents to prove it!
     
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    #3556 joe sackey, Aug 3, 2016
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    Raymond, this car's excellent disposition pre-restoration is the sum of your excellent stewardship for 15 years, so what can I say?

    Its a lucky car, and we are grateful for your tenure with it.

    I do like this image!
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  7. joe sackey

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    Its mega.

    I do have plans to do a proper magazine article so that this stuff no longer remains "not common knowledge", it should be out there, which is my mantra with everything that helps the community. I was lucky to discover it, I did a bit of digging, and there it was in my hands. I'm humbled by having the opportunity to share it.

    Another equally fascinating thing is that this has lead me to become the only person in almost 30 years to ever conduct a full-length interview of Patrick Mimran himself about Lamborghini, since he sold the company to Chrysler almost 30 years ago. I'm saving the contents of the interview for the article, and all I'll say at this time is some of the details are fascinating stuff.
     
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    #3558 raymondQV, Aug 3, 2016
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    I think this is a misinterpretation of the historical facts.

    Ferruccio was not interested in racing because he found it too costly and secondly he feared that his son could get injured.

    With the Mimran/Chrysler area things were different, first the Mimrans had to ramp up the company (from 1982 on), later they were interested which is proven by the QVX Group C racer and the F1 engines.
     
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    True, in the Ferruccio era, the reason for the no-racing policy was personal.

    In the Mimran era, he let the engineers start the Homologation process giving some hope to the idea of racing, but, before any definite plans materialized, he had sold the company to Chrysler.
     
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    #3560 raymondQV, Aug 3, 2016
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    Nope, the QVX was created earlier.
    From this perspective it looks like the Homologation of the QV was driven from outside because there was interest.
     
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    Ken,

    Do you have this diagram? It saved my bacon on my car!!! I had 2 or 3 vacuum lines that had rotted or were worn through (by rubbing against sharp metal bodywork).

    Like you, I thought that some of those small electro-valves were bad, but it turned out it was just the vacuum lines.

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    Raymond, we are saying the same thing regarding the Homologation of the QV, as confirmed to me by both Mimran & Marmiroli, in person.

    As regards the QVX, it had nothing to do with the Homologation process for the Countach, Lamborghini simply provided an engine to David Joliffe for a World Sportscar racing as used in a Spice chassis. The only reason David got factory support as regards the engine was because he was also a Lamborghini concessionaire. When I interviewed Marmirolli last year http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/144273809-post10.html he detailed the spec of the QVX engine.

    As an aside, note that Mimran allowed the supply of Lamborghini engines for World Class 1 offshore racing, in which Lamborghini were to eventually become World Champions.
     
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    Joe, what a fricken milestone! Fantastic to see this beautiful example coming together. Loving the gold wheels with the P7. Iconic!

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    The period pertaining to be interested in racing, of course i meant After Mr. Lamborghinis involvement. The fact that there was EVER an effort, is shocking to my long impression of the company history.
     
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    Thank you Mike- i have replaced ALL the lines already- yet the one option (outside vent) does not work.. All others now work great!
     
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    Thanks Rob, I'm starting to put together a set of new P7s as well.

    Of course I'm biased, but the P7 is the most iconic sports car tire ever made!
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    A foreign VIP lady visitor to GLA12997's restoration project this past week.

    We have another overseas visitor with a past connection to this car due in just over 10 days.
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    A minor delay has occurred with the installation of the light units.

    The rectangular bezels were deemed less-than-perfect, so they were stripped off the units again (not easy!) and sent off to be refinished in satin black.

    A number of details such as this have been refinished a second time to get them where they should be, so in that context, this has been an expeditious process!

    Its teamwork, and the guys take all the credit.
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    Yes, often-touted story is that Lamborghini was an 'absolutely no-racing' company, and this is true from Ferruccio Lamborghini's tenure through to the 1980 bankruptcy period.

    But under Patrick Mimran's tenure he allowed an engine for World Sportscar racing (QVX), he set up a division to build World Class 1 Offshore racing engines, he green-lighted the design development building & testing of the Countach Evoluzione (Super Countach) towards a GT1 car, and he allowed the application process for the FIA Homologation in that regard.
     
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    Speaking of time, it would be impossible for most entities to carry out the kind of work we have done from total disassembly to restoration to reassembly in well under 1 year.

    It all comes down to planning & management.

    What we have done is we have collapsed the typical process by having goals and trying to meet them, impossible without the aforementioned planning & management. So far there have been no major setbacks, just a few challenges.

    Raymond I can't wait to show you the car again when it is finished.
     
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    OMG that's ....
     
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    I want that red one!!
    That is awesome, do you yourself own a Countach? :)

    I grew up to my dads photos of his 1982 LP500s, It was black on black and I've always favored that colour, but as I grew older I realised that black hides so much detail of ANY car, and so I now preffer either a Red, White, Tahiti Blue Countach instead. Wish I win the lotto to buy all four colours as a Black Countach is still badass!
     
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    The red Downdraft on top is the ex-Oman Royal family HLA12094, but which one is the white 88.5 DD?
     
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    The white DD is JLA12412
     

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