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Do you let your friends drive your Ferrari?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by buddyg, Sep 19, 2017.

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  1. buddyg

    buddyg F1 Veteran
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    I use to have no issue with letting my very close friends the chance to drive my cars. I have had some fun cars over the last 30 years.

    I kind of stopped that practice with my Dodge Challenger Hellcat. 707 hp for someone not use to it could end up very bad. One guy totaled his brand new Hellcat on the drive home from the dealer.

    Now with the 458 I just feel it is too expensive and this particular car was very hard to find with the exact options/color I want.

    I have 2 friends that keep saying they are going to drive it and I just keep brushing them off. "Your not covered by my insurance".

    How do you handle this?
     
  2. jim g

    jim g Formula Junior

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    I used to let them until a friend took it for a ride lost control and burned it to the ground. I was sued within a week. I don't recommend it.
     
  3. spyder625

    spyder625 Formula Junior

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    no way, just stick to the insurance policy... Nobody else but the wife and i are insured. We all work way too hard to have something taken from us..
     
  4. Gofast430

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    I used to let good friends drive my GT3. No chance on my 458.
     

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  5. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Letting someone drive your Ferrari is like letting someone sleep with your wife and hope nothing happens.
     
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  6. graphicdisorder

    graphicdisorder Formula Junior

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    Yup, with me in the car only.
     
  7. 3POINT8

    3POINT8 F1 Rookie
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    i let my family/close friends drive/borrow my 911s but let a smaller group drive the F430. If its a true car guy i generally don't mind. If i had a 458 or something over $150k i probably would say no unless they got an insurance rider
     
  8. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    It really depends on the car and the friend. As much as I love my cars, they are not my wife! I am happy to share (where I deem appropriate) my car passion with my friends...
     
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  9. boobernackle

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    No, because most people don't know that tires need to be warmed up to achieve maximum traction. They start the car then floor it coming out of a corner and cuss at the car for spinning out...
     
  10. Melvok

    Melvok F1 World Champ
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    I do that too ... it's just a car imo. And it's no issue for the Insurance in our country.

    Even my wife has driven in the 458 once :D :D
     
  11. tomc

    tomc Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I've said this before, but the question I ask myself is - what would be my reaction if this person told me that they crashed my F-car? If it's "Are you OK?" then it's fine, they can drive. If it's "What the @%#! did you do to my Ferrari?" Then, no. That limits the possibilities to wife, best friends and my dog, and the latter ain't asked for the keys yet. :) At the end of the day, it's just a possession - an awesome one - but just a possession...T
     
  12. iloveferrari

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    Depends on the friends themselves. I used to let this friend drive all of my toys including my last California T. But man, he drove like he stole it, with me in it. Then for the 458, I basically just told him no more because the car is so twitchy...i think he got it, as he does not ask anymore.

    Although it's just a car, but it is also a weapon on the road if someone does not know how to operate it, with insurance or not.
     
  13. spyder625

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    agreed.....
     
  14. racerdj

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    My friends do not ask and that's the way I like it. I have never had to say no.
     
  15. Morgan72301

    Morgan72301 Karting

    Aug 12, 2017
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    I've let all my close friends and family take her for a spin only if they asked. Only one of those friends pushed it to where I regretted allowing it.
     
  16. exoticcardreamer

    exoticcardreamer Formula 3

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    I never drive my friends car(s) (any type of car). That way I don't feel any obligation to let them drive mine.

    It becomes a hard stop anyways when I tell them about the insurance restrictions.
     
  17. Rossocorsa1

    Rossocorsa1 F1 Veteran

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    Simple. Never.
     
  18. Dave rocks

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  19. MANDALAY

    MANDALAY F1 World Champ
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    Ild follow my dads rule, lend your wife out but never your tools or toys :)
     
  20. Ky1e

    Ky1e Formula 3

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    Wow, sorry to hear but sounds like an interesting story. What happened and what did you get sued for and by whom?
     
  21. Ky1e

    Ky1e Formula 3

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    The only people that are not covered by your insurance policy are people living in your household who are not listed on the policy. Friends, neighbors, valet guys, strangers-- are all covered by an insurance policy (at least for any policy I have ever seen in the USA).
     
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  22. Ky1e

    Ky1e Formula 3

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    I let any family members and friends drive my Ferraris. Why not? It's a car and it is covered by insurance. Share the love!
     
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  23. exoticcardreamer

    exoticcardreamer Formula 3

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    check your insurance policy and talk to your broker or insurance company. Agreed value policy (aka collectors insurance) is very restrictive). Many people have found out the hard way when someone else drove the car and got into an accident.

    Don't even do track ride alongs. You don't want your estate on hook in case of an accident.

    https://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/24/4-5-million-awarded-in-porsche-carrera-gt-case/

    Over two years ago a crash involving a Porsche Carrera GT during a Ferrari Owner's Club track day killed two event participants when they hit the wall at over 100 mph while trying to avoid a Ferrari merging onto the front straightaway. The driver and Carrera GT owner was Ben Keaton, an avid automotive enthusiast who regularly shared his wisdom on the website 6SpeedOnline.com. The car's passenger was Corey Rudl, a prospective Carrera GT buyer who wanted to take a ride. The tragic loss of these two lives brought out a great debate in the safety of California Speedway's tight infield road course, the responsibility of the event organizers, and the design of the Porsche Carrera GT itself.

    While the track event participates signed waivers noting that they were aware of the inherent dangers associated with driving at high speeds on a closed course, those waivers were dependent on who was found to be negligent in the event of an incident. Tracy Rudl, the wife of passenger Corey Rudl, filed a lawsuit claiming gross negligence by many parties associated with the track event. She recently received a settlement of approximately $4.5 million. The contributing parties to the settlement fund were 2% from the merging Ferrari driver, 8% from Porsche, 41% from California Speedway and Ferrari Owner's Club and finally 49% from the Carrera GT driver's estate.

    [Source: Sports Car Market Magazine]
    Stories such as this one can greatly divide opinion. On one hand, two guys lost their lives voluntarily participating in a dangerous event. On the other hand, the extent of the damage could have been reduced, if not completely avoided, by greater thought and care on the part of the race track and event organizers in the areas of visibility and pit-in/pit-out coordination. Then there's the debate about how safe the Porsche Carrera GT is to drive at high speeds. Hopefully the result of this lawsuit will not scare off other event organizers due to liability, but merely cause them to put more thought into eliminating potential safety issues.
     
  24. TheMayor

    TheMayor Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I've let other Fchatters drive my cars. In fact I've invited them to. I don't see the big deal.
     
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