Ferrari 250SWB Classiche

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  1. tomgt

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  3. tomgt

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    Lol I like this sentence on barchetta "... the car and the corrections needed to get the certification"
    So Ferrari tells what should be (re)done. But do they really know...
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    #4 Marcel Massini, Dec 3, 2015
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    What a touching instant, the unveiling of 2321 GT and the unique moment when the Classiche keyring is handed over to Geneva based dealer Fabrizio Carugati, can somebody please give me a kleenex?

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  5. NürScud

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    Nice video.
     
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    ....!! :):):)
     
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    The tears were really flowing when the check was written.
     
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    LOLOLOLO, with all that money flowing, one could expect for Ferrari to have designed a better logo for classiche, looks so tacky!!
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    No big deal. Now that it is certified it has easily doubled in value...........

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    #11 Challenge64, Dec 4, 2015
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    Would this be the same car? Seen inside Ferrari earlier this year.
    Ferrari_Factory_Classic_Ron2.jpg
     
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    What 55 750 Monza serial at 0:31 and 0:37 ???

    Best regards,

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  15. Marcel Massini

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    0217 EL and 0178 ED.

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    Thanks. I`ve never seen recent photos of the 0178ED.
     
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    Can someone explain why we are being cynical and ironic? What is the story behind this car?
     
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    LOL
     
  19. tomgt

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    It is all about or should I say ONLY about: THE RED BOOK and some € ;)
     
  20. Rifledriver

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    I think some are expressing their opinion of Classiche restorations.



    Tell us how you really feel Marcel. Quit holding back.
     
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    . . . or your money back!
     
  22. nschots

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    The car is in Argentinians hands since the last 13+ years. It has been in ARG until it moved to Classiche not so long ago.

    Best,
     
  23. Marcel Massini

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    They lacked documentation and restoration stalled. Having only very few pix they were unsure about front grille, trunk lid (it was born without), side window mechanism in doors and some dashboard issues. I helped them out with a bunch of pix from my files.

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    I heard something like that. Great that you had historic pix of it! I haven't seen any!
    Hope to see it finished as it should be and soon! Let's see if it comes back to Arg. or not..
     
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    #23 MBPaki, Dec 5, 2015
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    Ciao Ron,
    this is 02009.
    Best, Miki-Paki
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    Fine, but is the car legitimate, or is it some bitsa getting a real number with Maranello approval?
     
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    Thanks! When was this picture taken?
     
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    #26 Marcel Massini, Dec 6, 2015
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    I took this photo of 2321 GT 26 years ago, in August 1989, at the AvD-Oldtimer Grand Prix at the Nürburgring in Germany. It was later repainted yellow.

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    At Ferrari you will never now....
     
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    #28 Marcel Massini, Dec 6, 2015
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    2321 GT Chassis number and tag on firewall.

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    #29 GIOTTO, Dec 7, 2015
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    #2321GT at the Tour de France in 1998.
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  32. NürScud

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    History.
     
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    I preferred when this area was used for pouring aluminum into molds!
     
  34. omd78

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    Thanks for sharing.

    Would like to know too.

    Gr. Martin
     
  35. NürScud

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    I love to see old and classic Ferraris in bare metal! It shows the car's history.
     
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    Best, Miki-Paki.
     
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    Grazie.

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    So I assume this was how the car looked upon arrival at Classiche? September 2014?

    2015 1127 Classiche 8.jpg

    Gr. Martin
     
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    #37 Ed Niles, Jan 21, 2016
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    This is for RLB (1971)
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  40. etienne

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    Finally, the restoration is now complete. The car was recently presented by Classiche.
    A Ferrari rises from the ashes
    Question: What is the version of the car today? it does not match the version "Mille Miglia 52"...can you confirm the car restored by Classiche is now conform with your documents / pics ?
     
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    They done the car like the Coppa-Inter in 1952.

    But the nose is completely WRONG !!!
     
  42. Marcel Massini

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    Not just the nose and grille is wrong, other elements too.
    Plus the color combination as well.
    All very frustrating but not really surprising.

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  43. of2worlds

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    Can you share a period image of the 'correct' nose treatment?

    The nose seems to take most of the abuse. I can think of several restored cars were the nose is not faithfully reproduced. Specifically the grill opening shape. Sadly it changes in a subtle way the whole character of the car compared to the original design...
     
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    Merci Cyril...
     
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    Thanks Marcel. No slots in front wings at the Mille Miglia in May 52...
     
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    #44 GIOTTO, Mar 16, 2016
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    #0178ED nose.
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  47. tomgt

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    Oh noooo lol
    Bring it to a proper coachbuilder :)
     
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    thank you GIOTTO !
     
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    #47 GIOTTO, Mar 16, 2016
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    Just some examples. And there are many more. The LM is terrific !
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  50. of2worlds

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    Great before and after pictures you provide here! Amazing how the subtle and in some cases not so subtle design differences change the 'look' of the car...
     
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    The shot of the 290MM at Sebring is spectacular.
     

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