FERRARIS AT MOTOR SHOWS

005 S.

Marcel Massini
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Incorrect. This is 013/S.

 

It is chassis 013 S with engine 005 S.
Here's the factory warranty card.

Marcel Massini
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Yes, 005/S was pushed aside but the engine had already been completed, so the first Touring Coupe completed was 013/S with engine 005/S, the next one was 005/S with engine 013/S.

 

and the blue one at the Museo Ferrari at Modena is the one shown in the pic from Torino - correct or is that the car of the Schlumpf collection?

 

No, that one is 005/S.

 

The car at Torino had an Aerlux roof compatible with 005S.
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The 0013S has been assigned on June 1948 (see the document) while the Turin motor show had been held on September 1948, and not on May as usual, because the reopening of the Palazzo esposizioni after the Nervi's renovation.

Because i'm the curator of the Stefano Bricarelli/Motor Italia archive and the curator of the Archivio Riccardo Moncalvo-Torino, who was the official photograper that year (the credits of the photos you posted belong to him), i can say that there were three Aerlux models in the Touring stand: a Ferrari 166, a Lancia Aprilia and an AR6C250SS.
However Bricarelli took a photo of a 166 Touring with a standard metal roof for the special issue -Album della carrozzeria italiana 1948- printed on the "Motor Italia" magazine dedicated to the motor show.
Moreover, the "L'automobile" weekly magazine, the special edition edited by the ACI on September 19th (Sunday), shows the photo that Marcel posted at#201. The caption says "...another Ferrari 12 C berlinetta coupè 4 posti carrozzeria Touring superleggera aerlux", but the car has a metal roof.
The photo posted by Boudewijn at #208 is one of the two printed on "L'Auto Italiana" magazine (credit: Riccardo Moncalvo).
At the end of the day, my opinion is that Ferrari delivered 2 166 Touring to the motor show, but one was an aerlux model only.

 

Amazing photos. This is the best thread in vintage in long time.

I say we "amp it up" a bit by shifting the focus to trying to determine the current cash value of every car mentioned -- and debating whether that price is going up or down!







(Yes, I am joking with that last comment)

 

Description stands Turin Motor Show edition of Automobil Revue # 41 (September 22, 1948)

Auch bei den kleineren Firmen findet man Sehenswertes. F e r r a r i stellt seinen Zweiliter- Typ 166 in zwei Exemplaren zum erstenmal aus. Auf seinem eigenen Stand finden wir einen lachsroten, offenen Sportzweisitzer auf dem kurzen Mille-Miglia-Chassis von 220 cm Radstand, der rund 220 km/h erreichen soll und von Touring karossiert worden ist. Neben diesem bestechend rassigen Fahrzeug wird noch ein hellblaugraues, zweitüriges Coupé auf dem Stand der genannten Karosseriefirma gezeigt, das 265 cm Radstand besitzt und vier Personen Platz bietet. Auch auf diesem Wagen, dem ersten der mit Ungeduld erwarteten normalen Ausgabe Ferraris, treffen wir das Fünfganggetriebe mit vier geräuscharmen und drei synchronisierten Gängen; bei einer Motorleistung von gegen 95 PS erreicht der leichte, sehr dezente Wagen bestimmt mehr als 150 km/h.

Hauptattraktion bei T o u r i n g ist natürlich das Ferrari-Coupé mit Plexiglaseinsatz im Dach (Patent «Aerlux»); daneben sind zu erwähnen eine sehr elegante, viertürige Lancia-Aprilia-Limousine sowie geschlossene Alfa-Romeo-Typen, die den charakteristischen Kotflügelwulst der Superleggera- Karosserie besitzen.

 

Thank you for the additional information.

 

Thank you for the quote. This confirms the car at the Touring booth indeed was 005S.

 

Confirms? How?

 

The Automobil Revue report affirming the car standing on the Touring booth had an Aerolux roof and was coloured light blue/grey and also the Aerolux roof photo which clearly was taken on the Touring booth.

 

I fail to follow, to me the photos only proof that 013/S had an Aerlux installed. Not so sure about 005/S, I think it might very well be a later addition.

 

I took a look to the Motor show map and to some period photos.
The Touring stand was in the coachbuilders room, beside Bertone (the dark car behind the Ferrari is a Stanguellini 1100S coupè in the photo that Marcel posted), and in front of the Pininfarina stand (the dark car behind the Ferrari is the #057 Maserati A6 convertible in the photo that Boudewijn posted).
There were 5 cars in the Touring stand: 2 AR6C2500Ss with standard roof and 3 Aerlux, as i mentioned before.
The problem is still (for me) the Ferrari in the photo that Marcel posted, because it hasn't the Aerlux top.

 

It does, Aerlux is very difficult to spot in photos unless photographer was looking down on a car.

 

Kare, if the car was 013S it would have had the same colour as 005S has today. Also the car running at the Coppa Intereuropa 29 May 1949 with Sterzi, also carrying an Aerlux roof, could have been 013S as well in your opinion?
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Coppa Intereuropa car is 005/S. I am, however, not convinced that the car as seen in your pic had an Aerlux installed. I actually doubt it very much.

Turin car was all different, much more luxurious and therefore preferred for the important motor show. The documents do exist, but there were some people who thought they were wrong as 013/S was such a high number and probably built a year later or so... so they changed the number for something "better". On top of that 013/S had disappeared and some people started to doubt if it was ever built. As a result circulating notes about 005/S and 013/S are all mixed up.

I have no idea whatsoever what color 005/S originally was, but I don't have a problem if the paint today resembles that of 013/S 68 years ago, no problem at all.

 

I take you by your word, because i don't see the edge of the plexiglas. Thank you.

 

Difficult to say because the metallic pale blue and the metallic pale grey have the same spectrum in a B/W film.

 

Is it true that 342 America Pinin Farina cabriolet s/n 0248AL was also at the New York Show this year ?? I have never seen a pic. Thanks in advance.

 

There were three shows that year, so extra tought to say anything determined...