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Ferraris at Pebble Beach 2017

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  1. readplays

    readplays Formula 3

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    #1 readplays, Aug 19, 2017
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    M-1 Ferrari Grand Touring

    M1-01 212 Export Vignale Cabriolet 0110E Peter Kalikow
    M1-02 212 Inter Ghia Cabriolet 0233EL Jimmy Page
    M1-03 212 Inter Vignale Coupe 0217EL Ricardo Vega
    M1-04 250 GT LWB Scaglietti Spyder California 1501 GT Timothy Koogle
    M1-05 250 GT SWB Scaglietti Berlinetta 2243 GT David F. MacNeil
    M1-06 250 GT SWB Scaglietti Berlinetta 3337 GT Bob Cohen
    M1-07 250 GT SWB Pininfarina Coupe Speciale 3469GT Scuderia Bella Rossa
    M1-08 500 Superfast 2nd Series Pininfarina Fixed Head Coupe 8273SF Lisa & Jimmy Dobbs
    M1-09 275 GTS/4 Scaglietti NART Spyder 11057 Chris & Ann Cox

    M-2 Ferrari Competition

    M2-01 212 Export Touring Barchetta 0102E Thomas Peck
    M2-02 225 Sport Vignale Berlinetta 0164ED Najeeb & Nancy Khan
    M2-03 166 MM Oblin Spyder 0030M Mr. & Mrs. Frederic Leroux
    M2-05 335 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0764 Andreas Mohringer
    M2-06 250 GT LWB Scaglietti Berlinetta 1321 GT Charles Wegner
    M2-07 246 S Dino Fantuzzi Spyder 0778 Craig & Susan McCaw
    M2-08 275 GTB/C Scaglietti Berlinetta Competizione 09067 Rare Wheels Collection
    M2-09 412 P Competizione 0850 Harry Yeaggy

    M3 Ferrari Major Race Winners

    M3-01 166 MM Touring Barchetta 0008M Anne Brockington Lee/Robert M. Lee Automobile Collection
    M3-02 166 MM Touring Berlinetta 0026M Jack & Kingsley Croul
    M3-03 340 America Vignale Berlinetta 0082A Jack & Kingsley Croul
    M3-04 315 S Scaglietti Spyder 0684 John & Gwen McCaw
    M3-05 250 Testa Rossa Scaglietti Spyder 0728 Sir Michael Kadoorie
    M3-06 250 TR59/60 Fantuzzi Spyder 0774 TR William E. (Chip) Connor
    M3-07 250 GT SWB Scaglietti Berlinetta 2689GT
    M3-08 250 GTO Scaglietti Berlinetta 4293GT William E. (Chip) Connor
    M3-09 250 LM Scaglietti Berlinetta 5893 Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum
    M3-10 365 P2 Fantuzzi Spyder 0838 Scuderia N.E. (PGS)
    M3-11 312 T F1 312-022 Richard Griot
    M3-12 312 T2 F1 312-031 Colin Bach

    M4 Ferrari One-Off Specials

    M4-01 375 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0456AM Golomb Family Trust
    M4-02 375 America Pinin Farina Coupe Speciale 0355AL Jack & Debbie Thomas
    M4-03 375 Plus Pinin Farina Cabriolet Speciale 0488AM Golomb Family Trust
    M4-05 250 GT Zagato Berlinetta Speciale 0515GT David & Ginny Sydorick
    M4-06 250 GT Boano Cabriolet 0461GT Anne Brockington Lee/Robert M. Lee Automobile Collection
    M4-07 410 Superamerica Boano Coupe 0477SA Anne Brockington Lee/Robert M. Lee Automobile Collection
    M4-08 410 Superamerica Boano Cabriolet 0485SA Anne Brockington Lee/Robert M. Lee Automobile Collection
    M4-09 410 Superamerica Pinin Farina Coupe 0719SA Lee & Joan Herrington
    M4-10 206 Dino Competizione Pininfarina Coupe10523 MJJV Cars (Napolis/Jim G)


    All the data for this list is courtesy of Pebble Beach Concours. It can be found at https://www.pebblebeachconcours.net/news-media.html under 'Photos & Videos'. The site has some tour photos, etc. up already and typically posts more during and after the weekend.
    There's also a live-stream for the Concours sunday.

    You can also download a PDF of all the Concours classes/entrants which gives a great short bio on each of the cars.
     
  2. readplays

    readplays Formula 3

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    #2 readplays, Aug 19, 2017
    When Jon Shirley won Best of Show in 2014 with 0402AM, a major precedent was set.

    I will be watching to see how 0456AM does.
    I'm sure El Wayne will be keeping an eye on 0488AM.

    With so many great cars in the 4 classes, it should make for a tough weekend for the judges.

    On another note, Tour d'Elegance footage shows that 0764 is now back in original NART color scheme of blue metallic with a white stripe.

    Lastly, can't wait to see 0233EL.
     
  3. Boudewijn

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    #3 Boudewijn, Aug 19, 2017
    M1-07 250 GT SWB Pininfarina Coupe Speciale Scuderia Bella Rossa (No C/N listed, will update if someone has it): 3469GT
     
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    #4 readplays, Aug 19, 2017
    Thanks!
     
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    #7 readplays, Aug 20, 2017
    Here are the class First Place winners from today's judging.

    M-1 Ferrari Grand Touring
    M1-01 212 Export Vignale Cabriolet 0110E Peter Kalikow

    M-2 Ferrari Competition
    M2-05 335 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0764 Andreas Mohringer

    M3 Ferrari Major Race Winners
    M3-04 315 S Scaglietti Spyder 0684 John & Gwen McCaw*

    M4 Ferrari One-Off Specials
    M4-09 410 Superamerica Pinin Farina Coupe 0719SA Lee & Joan Herrington


    *0684 was also selected as one of the 3 finalists for Best of Show.
    AFAIK this is the first time a competition Ferrari was a finalist for BOS, and the second time any Ferrari was a finalist for BOS (0402AM was a finalist and winner, Best of Show in 2014).
     
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    #8 RivMan, Aug 21, 2017
    Anyone get photos of 0233?

    Thanks
    -Rob
     
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    #9 merstheman, Aug 21, 2017
    Who won best of show?
     
  10. wbaeumer

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    #10 wbaeumer, Aug 21, 2017
    A prewar Mercedes.
     
  11. NürScud

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    #11 NürScud, Aug 21, 2017
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txgDBAf8KGo&index=32&list=WL[/ame]
     
  12. of2worlds

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    #12 of2worlds, Aug 21, 2017
    Thanks for showing the results! That list should be captioned 'the usual suspects' with lots of car history in that group.
     
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    #14 boothguy, Aug 22, 2017
    A very deserving car. There were some phenomenal entries this year, as is typical of Pebble Beach.
     
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    #15 sperry, Aug 22, 2017
    The sea of prewar cars near the top of the 18th fairway can blend together to the uninitiated (like me) but that Mercedes had serious charisma and looked like the clear winner among the three finalists. I didn't get the appeal of the Packard.
     
  16. Rossocorsa1

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    #16 Rossocorsa1, Aug 22, 2017
    The show was really amazing. It was my first time attending and it was incredible. Seeing those amazing Ferrari's up close was a real treat. I'm especially glad I went very early for the dawn patrol so I could hear them roar onto the lawn. Some great photos in this article:

    https://www.yahoo.com/style/m/edba87e8-dab7-39d7-83fe-38c0edb06d68/ss_ferrari-celebrates-70th.html

    One thing I will say, and I already know what people are going to say (so start shooting), I really can't stand the livery. Yes, I know the historical significance (so you don't need to lecture me on that), but I couldn't help but think how amazing these cars would look without the horrible numbers and huge circles all over them. Still, an absolutely incredible experience.
     
  17. Jeff Kennedy

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    #17 Jeff Kennedy, Aug 22, 2017
    I agree on the idea of without the livery. To me that is how the factory actually built the car and shows the best shape. Unfortunately we are most likely in the minority.
     
  18. of2worlds

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    #18 of2worlds, Aug 22, 2017
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    Not at all, I made the same comment a few weeks ago. The 250 GTO *3223* is the perfect example of pandering to some race period livery. If you are going back in time why not show the unadorned appearance of that Ferrari as it was introduced to the press by the factory without body modifications and a central stripe design. Note how the base of the front grill opening is flat and no longer curved. The pure original design shines through in the press car...
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  19. Rossocorsa1

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    #19 Rossocorsa1, Aug 22, 2017
    As I was standing in front of all these amazing cars, I literally was trying to imagine how incredible they would look without all these awful graphics covering them. I guess I could understand if they were the original livery from when they raced (though I still wouldn't like them), but these cars have been completely restored in some cases, multiple times). It really just ruins the pure beauty of the cars.
     

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