Lets see your 930s!

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  1. 512bbnevada

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    I will in the next few weeks be getting my 77 930 back from my mechanic, its been almost 3 years since i drove it I really miss it, its viper green metallic has SC cams, bored out throttle body euro fuel distributor, headers, aluminum racing clutch flywheel, sport exhaust, K27, 1bar spring, LSD, motor should be around 450+ hp in a light 2500 lb car, winter is coming and these are great winter driving cars as we know


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    #3 ferraripete, Oct 13, 2008
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    my 930...87 marine blue w/ silver (light grey). bought her w/ 18k orig miles (essentially a new car) and promptly sent it to andial and asked them to make it really fast!

    they did not disappoint!!! the car remains stock appearing as it would be a shame to mess with the perfect porsche!!! and it is simply motorcycle fast @ 1.0 bar!!!

    my opinion but i consider the 930 one of the most important sportscars of all time. along with the 427 cobra sc, there are few others that can be put in that category.

    pcb
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    #4 NSXER, Oct 13, 2008
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    Great looking car Ferraripete!
    930s are by far one of the best engineered cars....
    I love driving mine below...
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  5. ferraripete

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    what a GREAT picture w/ the sunset!!! i was not aware that you also had a 930...now it is clear that you have great taste in autos!!!

    great to know that you are among we lovers of great cars whether they be italian, german, or other!!

    best,

    pcb

    thank you for starting the thread jeff! i look forward to hearing about your first drive once you get her back...she has been gone too long!!!
     
  6. 512bbnevada

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    Beautiful cars guys, Peter love that color combo, you just dont see 930s much anymore but when you do no mistaking them on the road especially from the rear with the huge rear fenders they still look bad azz and all business today and scream dont mess with me
     
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    #7 NSXER, Oct 13, 2008
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    Thanks...I have always loved 930s. The new turbos just do not do anything for me....How quickly these older cars can gain ground is very deceiving and they were the first cars with "proper" brakes. One of the easiest cars to work on as well.
    Jeff...be careful...that thing is going to be a monster!

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    #8 BlazinBWF, Oct 13, 2008
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    Here is my old 930...sold it w/40k miles on the clock and the guy crashed it like two days afterwards may she RIP.
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    I'm with all of you...been in and out of 4 930's over the past 30 years....LOVE THEM!

    my last two...black one is a '79, red one an '86, also had a '76 in silver and an '87 in granite green metallic

    the '79 really was the fastest or at least it always felt that way!
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    83 stock unhit nice driver - wheels chromed by p.o.
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    That deserves a "Awwww maaaaaaaaaaaan..." RIP indeed.
     
  13. Mang

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    speaking of 930's...I have thought about 'wrestling' that black '79 back from it's current owner. What are you 930 aficionado's opinions of year vs. year and of that particular car - has about 60K original miles and is really SWEEEEEEET!!! any comments on current value (taking into consideration the world economic meltdown, where might prices bottom at?)...respect everyone's opinion as always..

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    I still own a '79 911SC...which is probably the most reliable road going Porsche ever built...The Turbo version is just as good...you have to be really careful of the turbo leg on a '79...had the reputation of being a widow maker...I am not sure of the value of a '79 930 but I would imagine with that low of miles it could be $80k-100K...there are not that many left. I bought my '88 black 930 for like $40k and sold it after a year for $60k.
     
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    MNG....

    Well.....I do this for a living.......sell Porsches that is.....in my 19th year at it.....sold over 1,100 from 1989 until now. Here's my two cents......I am a huge 930 fan, owned several and sold about 100.

    1976-1977 930......Low $20K - High $40K
    1978-1982 930......Low $25K - High $45K
    1986-1988 930......Low $30K - High $60K
    1989-1989 930......Low $30K - High $65K

    Add 10-30% for a factory slantnose depending on condition. Add 10% for a steel conversion that is done right. All figures in USD and assuming mileage does not exceed 50K miles at the low end and does not exceed 30K miles at the high end.......and.......the cars in question need NOTHING....no accidents. Paintwork OK and expected due to age.

    These cars adjusted downward $10K about 6 months ago.......but have been kinda firm for a decade. As usual, paint to sample cars in unique colors on an M505 slantnose with interesting ownership histories can reach $80-90K with 10K< miles.
     
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    In the long run, you cannot lose a dime on a 930. Long run being from five to ten years time. In the short term, prices (may) dip to what they were five years ago - perhaps even worse ? This will NOT be of much concern to the typical 930 owner. It will be of concern to the owner of a stock queen - only in the short term. It will be a problem, for the expensive exotics. In other words, you will most likely see nice 400K 275 GTB/4 autos for sale (over the next two-three years) etc...

    The only way to lose long term on a 930, is by taking a stock queen and modifying it and putting on miles. If you buy a queen, you can only drive it once a month - or less. If you want to drive it, buy a nice 50,000 mile car.
     
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    OK, here's my 86 930, put all the good stuff in the motor, only 39k miles and a keeper!
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    Red interior is just tOO hot ! Love it !
     
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    Daily driver(sometimes), wife's driver (sometimes), grocery-getter, school bus, it does it all.

    Built August the 29th 1975, three full months before USA 930 production began, the only known USA prototype extant. Used by the Porsche factory for road testing by the legendary Jurgen Barth and in the official Porsche 930 1976 model year brochure. Also used for the USA 930 launch late 1975 where it was driven by the late (great) Al Holbert. Works tuned engine and RSR brakes (as per all Pre-series 930s), no radio. In its exact production spec (no mods). Porsche AG factory documentation by Olaf Lang confirming the car's status, and correspondence between myself and Jurgen Barth on file. Porsche certification.

    Oak metallic green, tartan fabric (grandma's horrible drapes!), brown leather is original spec. Fully restored.

    I have owned other Turbo Carreras and this one flies by comparison. RSR brakes useless when cold. No muffler to speak of so snap-crackle-pop is a bit obnoxious around town but produces silly grins on kids faces.

    This Senior Citizen (33 years young) is the oldest USA-spec road-going Porsche Turbo of any kind in the country so if you see her give her a honk will you?
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    lovely and very important ! there she is, the car that began the legend!!

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    love the plaid! more supercars need a plaid interior.
     
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    #21 joe sackey, Oct 14, 2008
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    Thanks for the love on the plaid. I feel like I need to operate this car with period platform shoes! Personally I like the plaid but I must confess I do get some strange looks at gas stations... its official Porsche name is "Black Watch Tartan (2AC)", one of 3 tartan variants available at the period for 930. Edmond Russell in England (renowned Porsche racing specialist) had one last OEM roll left over from 1975 when we came to restore. I made him an offer he apparently couldn't refuse...








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    Beautiful car! When i get the chance to spec a new Porsche I hope I can do plaid.
     
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    I'll be selling mine for a 930 soon!
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    I love green 911s especially 930s, coool car!
     
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    Picture taken at Grand Touring Cars Phoenix, AZ 1976. Copyright Steve Rosa. Newly hired Bob Wallace and 17 year old Steve Rosa were sent to pick up this early delivery USA 930 at Johnson-Bozzani Porsche. Much to the suprise of Steve and the employees of the Porsche dealership Mr. Wallace tossed the Turbo keys to Steve and said "here you drive it back". 1974 Countach LP400 #1120036 is behind the Porsche.
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    Nice picture and story, love the old ones. Cant say i would take the Porsche over the Countach though :D

    By the way, the Black Watch Tartan is a very popular Tartan for anyone that didnt know, my friends have worn it regularly as kilts.
     
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    this thread is like porn with porsche's! i love the 930 !
     
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    Nice story Joe! Oak Green looks amazing as a show car. More variety of color in the early cars.

    Do you know anything about the other 930 factory show display car that was presented without an engine? A customer wanted an RSR but they were all spoken for. He saw the show car minus engine just sitting at the factory after it had been on the show circuit. He had a (RSR?) motor installed at the factory and shipped the car home to Australia. It was raced, sold, bought back again and then sold on again. Any pictures of that one? Thanks
     
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    Are you speaking of the silver Paris Salon car that became the 930 Spezial?
     
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    #30 512bbnevada, Oct 16, 2008
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    heres an old pic of my 930 before it had its "issue" which is why its in the shop, gonna re black the window trim when its back from the mechanic re polish and paint the Fuchs and add the black Carrera script decal along the lower body, i know its not correct but always liked the look which even the new Gt3 s have as well
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  33. Mang

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    opinion..re-black' the fuchs as well..polished is so 80's! :)
     
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    My ex-930 and the RSR clone that replaced it.
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    The Porsche was painted pearlescent silver and had a white stripe at the base of the door with the letters cut out to spell 'PORSCHE' in the silver body color. It also had the stripe as seen on the white 1976 Porsche picture earlier in this thread. Also added were the cut out letters 'Turbo' in silver to match the other stripe on the door. These were located just behind the rear fenders. The interior (seats and door panels) were done in the green plaid material like your car. It had the RSR body features with 9 inch and 11 inch Fuchs wheels with the centre of the wheel painted white to match the stripes. This car was first seen at the Frankfurt autoshow in September 1973. Unknown at the time; the car was a non-runner. Alan Hamilton was the first buyer who took the car back to Australia having created a street version of an RSR with the help and support of the factory.

    Amazingly the car is for sale in NJ.
     
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    The Porsche you speak of had a mock engine made out of wood which was discarded by Alan Hamilton upon purchasing the car. I'll find you some more period pics of the car when it was raced. Here are a couple of pics I took last year when it was for sale in Australia.
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    Ralph, spent the weekend in Las Vegas (kids soccer t-ment) and made arrangements to see and drive a red 86 930....needless to say, I am just 'soft' for these cars...I never drive any of my cars enough, but 930's are just the very best 'drivers' for sure. Just like you suggested...not a queen, around 62K miles and clean...any guidance on value from you? What would you pay at this time for the car I have just described? I don't want to overpay at this time!!!

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    #1. Make sure mechanically, it is an excellent car. No point in saving 3K, and end up paying the mechanic twice that or more, to fix a signficant issue or two. What are they asking for the car ?

    Remember the upcoming winter and the volatile stock market, all help the cash buyer. Kds (Keith), is more attuned to the actual Porsche market. My guess is somewhere around 25K+/-.
     
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    bump....more 930's photos please... :D
     
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    oops...
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    Beautiful cars!
    Not a 930, but I love my '75 S. It's a turbo, but not with the OEM engine!!
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    very nice.
    The 1st 3.0 litre Turbo in Australia came in without the rear whale tail,one was fitted,the car was stolen about 8 years ago never seen again.
     
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    My '88 RUF BTR. Every RUF option including thier 5 speed, sans the slant nose. Why no slope? 'Cuz its stablemate is an '87 930S special wishes 930S one of one with factory options of 934 oil cooler/LED boost gauge, bigger intercooler, K27, fold down arm rest, ashtray in the door, underdash dropdown map compartments, spiral side markers and the console that RUF copied. Getting serviced, will post pics when it's home.
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  48. Mang

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    H....you could DOMINATE every thread on this site with a car that trumps everyone else's...howzabout, you quit showing off now? :D

    can't wait to see photos of your 'special wishes' 930!
     
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    Mike, Don't you ever sleep man? haha
    Ahh if it were only true! Then I wouldn't be, much to my wife's chagrin, constantly on the look.
    I think about 67K members on F-chat alone may take objection to that claim. I'm one. *L*
     
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    I have first right of refusal on that right Harry ? Remember, we talked about it right ? riiiiiight :)
     
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    The 930, is the best bang for your buck supercar. Yes, it can do everything the Countach and Boxer does (aside from curb appeal) - and more.


    It is amazing, that anyone could build or purchase a replica, factory donor car, or kit, instead of buying a LeMan's class winning supercar.
     
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    Ralph, the new avatar...where are the hotties that you usually adorn us with??? What is the 40K 'thingie'? perhaps should read 401K..lol?

    agree with you on the 930...pretty much agree with you on anything car related! :D
     

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