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  1. BlueBiturbo

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    Looks so much better with Boeing parts :)
     
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  3. taz55555

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    Can't wait to see the final product.
    Will be a driving machine.

    Lm002 is getting all new ss breaded fuel lines.
    Remaking the back bench seats.

    Thanks for your help.
     
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    Thanks for the rear bench seat pics.
    Please post pic of Your LM when it is finished.
     
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    Pretty neat. How much can those hoses tolerate?
     
  6. Lambrusco V12

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    Good question Chad, the honest answer is I don't know, we're going to try them out to see if they're suitable for this application.

    The jungle engineer in me says they should be ok (touchy , squeezy test)
     
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    Haha funny!

    I must have gotten interrupted when I was typing, as I meant to say how much HEAT can they tolerate since they're in the bay?
     
  8. Lambrusco V12

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    I'll melt a sample with the heat gun and find out
     
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    #659 Lambrusco V12, Aug 15, 2014
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    Hi Chad, we gave up heating the hose at 280 degrees C (536 deg F)

    We don't expect to see engine bay temperatures higher than 100 deg C (based on engine bay measurements from our BMW M5s) so there's a good safety margin

    Second photo is immediately after the heat test , some slight discoloration but still ok

    Boeing part number is BACD40P3A120 (short) and BACD40P3A180 (long)

    They're actually from the cabin environmental system (not oxygen supply)
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    I was about to ask You to do a heat gun test Tony.
    The result looks good.
     
  11. Lambrusco V12

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    I was expecting around 200 deg C , it's probably around 350 deg C before it breaks down
     
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    Will send pictures when lines are installed.

    When you do your back seats, please send pictures and material used.

    Regards,

    Taz
     
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    Sure do! Thanks for doing that Tony. Cool solution.
     
  14. Lambrusco V12

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    New air-conditioning compressor (from an M5) being adapted to the original mounting
     
  15. Lambrusco V12

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    #665 Lambrusco V12, Sep 13, 2014
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    LM002 going through some final detailing before it's first test drive next Saturday.

    Rear cargo area seat being made, reverse lockout cable being replaced and some tidying up of the interior and wiring.

    The test drive is to see what else we've missed after sitting under a tree and then a car park awning for over a decade.

    We have to excavate the LM out of all the aircraft parts it's surrounded by , it has a set of B737-300 landing gear sitting behind it.
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    Exciting!!!! It's amazing what some of these have gone through.
     
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    Thanks Chad , credit to Taffy (being patient , wanting it right and funding it all) and the boys . My job was the Consigliere , ideas , input into problem solving and quality control.

    The wiring is a work of art and these aircraft cables and wire doesn't break down (cracked insulators) like automotive wiring

    Overall it's almost a full restoration without tearing down the engine and drivetrain
     
  18. taz55555

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    Awesome..... Looks Great.
    Great job.
    Can you pm the plans for the rear cargo seats.
    We are putting lock washer and bolt under the frame to lock screw in and not rely on the frame support.

    Taz
     
  19. Lambrusco V12

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    Taz , I haven't seen what the tech team plan to do with the rear cargo seats yet.

    I know they will be using aluminum honeycomb fiberglass coated panels (old Boeing floor panels) which is half the weight of plywood and waterproof

    I'll post some more details on Monday
     
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    Air conditioning mounting frame turned up from the machine shop yesterday also.
     
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    Every ounce helps! You guys have great ideas, I'm seriously impressed.
     
  22. Lambrusco V12

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    #672 Lambrusco V12, Sep 14, 2014
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    Thanks Chad,

    Here's some photos of the Boeing floor panel (or panel assembly as Boeing calls it)

    It's a composite sandwich sheet with light and strong aluminum honeycomb inside.

    The weight for a 20 sq ft sheet is 13.2lbs compared to 31.25lbs for plywood.

    We use them for everything , great for pick up floor liners and we make shipping boxes out of them (light and no quarantine issues)

    Very expensive to buy new , a panel like this would be $2,500 to $3,000 ($12 to $15 sq ft) new today but head down to an aircraft bone yard (mojave, tucson etc) where they are tearing down airliners and you should be able to buy used panels for $5 a pound.

    Running an aircraft salvage business helps, I'd tear down 2 or 3 B737s a year.

    I started using these used panels as they were a fraction of the price of new plywood and they are fantastic , easy to cut with a normal circular saw, waterproof, rot proof and strong, the panels are designed for 250kg per m2 from memory.

    I'm a big fan of using aviation surplus in automotive projects :)
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  23. taz55555

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    Taffy:

    Great idea and imagination.

    Can you send two pieces to the us for my Lm002? The shipping would probably cost a fortune. Any bone yards on the east coast of the US?
    Very Impressed.

    Regards,
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  24. Lambrusco V12

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    #674 Lambrusco V12, Sep 15, 2014
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    Very few on the east coast , mainly in the mid west , west coast , florida and texas

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.191713894209288.42577.182838831763461&l=ab6a7ea624

    "East Coast Aircraft Boneyard
    Updated over a year ago · Taken at Aberdeen Proving Groud, Maryland
    Back in October 2010, SpeedNews uncovered an aircraft boneyard in Maryland -- possibly the only one on the east coast. Located at Aberdeen Proving Ground, the site houses mainly military aircraft. Although a major cleanup in the past decade significantly reduced its numbers, the boneyard used to house hundreds of aircraft. APG uses the airframes for weapons testing."

    There should be a civilian scrap company somewhere near that facility , usually the military don't do the scrapping , they contract it out or sell direct to approved companies.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t1.0-9/248665_191714324209245_1316093_n.jpg?oh=a585d3322c07dfa6bc6cd737908c85bf&oe=5495BE0B&__gda__=1418386213_3c979a1a29ce9202c7f494d71927241e

    Also

    Jenkins in Delaware - 302-697-7743

    You could also try Dodson Air Parts in Rantoul Kansas.

    For the cargo area seats in Taffy's LM we're reshaping some Boeing 737 passenger seat cushions , 2 cushions per side , the cushions need to be cut and new covers made (design team decision on the fly tonight Taffy :) ). The cushions are also floatation devices on aircraft so they'd have to be resistant to getting waterlogged.
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    #675 Lambrusco V12, Sep 15, 2014
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    Military aircraft will use a similar floor panel , it doesn't have to be from a Boeing

    A bit off topic

    I recently supplied a few parts to the USA for a period correct restoration of a 1972 Parnelli Offenhauser VPJ-1 Indy Car, I was surprised how many parts this car used that were military or aviation surplus , it's like they just went to a military surplus yard for parts shopping.

    The manifold pressure gauge was from a P-51D Mustang (normally 75" but some had 100" gauges) , this gauge is from 1943 !

    Aviation and military surplus - quality parts at bargain prices for performance car projects.
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