Mega Thread: The 430 Replacement (F450, F500, etc)

The replacement is only sold out as far as that dealer can rotate those cars thru his customer base who take delivery of the cars and return them used with xxx miles on them. I can't imagine accurate info leaking out on the F430 replacement.

 

The dealer is bull of BS. FNA does not allow the dealers to accept deposits until the new vehicle has been officially announced. The dealer probably has a list of 150 people that have expressed interest in the car (which is no big deal), not deposits.

 

DEPOSITS DO NOT MEAN ANYTHING.Its your relationship with the dealer that determine's when you get your Ferrari.Whining on F-chat will not move you up any list.Go to the dealer and start developing your relationship.

 

FNA has absolutely zero control over how a dealership does business, including accepting deposits for the privilege of being included on a purchaser's list. This dealer has deposits in hand simply because they have always had the deposits in hand. Buyers in the loop very rarely take their deposit back, but simply allocate it to the next car in line. It's not as if the existence of a list for the next F 360/430 series car created 150 new deposits. They already have the money from prior transactions.

 

The description was "core" meaning regular buyers. Nothing relating to hard core users of cars. This is a business transaction, not a personification of a dream for most of these buyers. As was pointed out by someone else, it's not particularly profitable, but it's certainly not a major loser either. The regular buyer always has a new Ferrari at his disposal and it ultimately costs him the time value of his deposit at worst, and he makes a nice profit every now and then when the new car is in high demand like a 430 Spider.

 

wow the F430 is only out five months and we are talking about 430 replacement and deposits?

 

Clax,
I can tell you from first hand experience that dealers do, indeed, take deposits on future models. I put 10K down on a 430 9/02 before anything was known about the car. The contract simply read "360 replacement". Likewise, I have a contract for the "430 replacement". I hope to live long enough to take delivery on it.

Dave

 

Did you apply your deposit to the F430 or let it roll onto the next car.

 

Reading all this stuff about deposits for F-cars that aren't even conceived yet, and stuff about building relations with F-car dealers, yada, yada, makes me remember why I no longer own a Ferrari. I could see if the cars produced were so faaaaaaar superior to anything else out there, but short of the Enzo, there are lots of other options out there over the flavor-of-the-month Ferrari. Ahhhhhh, it feels good to not have to deal with that BS.

 

Thanks for making it 1 person easier.

 

Don't worry, things will be even easier in years to come. Brand loyalty is a dying trend, especially considering the little F1 Championship badges mounted to the dash will not have "2005" on them. Sorry, I couldn't resist. But seriously, brand loyalty aside, if the 430 was so amazing (to me), I would already be driving one. I do have relationships with key people to obtain one, but the car just doesn't do it for me. I don't prefer one brand over another, it all depends on what products they have when I am in the market for a new car.

 

jaslally,
In this case, I wrote a different check for the next model because I wanted to use a different account. However, I could have and I believe most buyers do in fact just pay for the car in full and let the deposit ride. I don't know if I will want the next model, but at least I will have an option. The 430 is my first new Ferrari and there can only be one first and the excitement that goes with it.

Dave

 

They are like children. It's all good.
Seriously, 'though, the excitement of picking up a new Ferrari from the dealer is always thrilling. It's obvious that they are certainly rare in the real world, no matter how much we rationalize the idea that 360's and 430's are volume lines for Ferrari, and the feeling you get when you arrive at the dealership and your new baby is siiting in the middle of the showroom floor like the king of the Automotive world is indelible, whether it's your first or your fifth.

 

All this talk about a 430 replacement proves to me that people can't wait to get past the 430 & on to new refreshing body style. Or they are just fustrated they can't get a 430.

 

people are getting in on the replacement so they don't go through the same frustration as missing out on the 430

 

NO,It just prove's how strong the demand for Ferrari's really is.

 

EXACTLY...this dude has got it down.

 

No doubt this is a re-post... but Lambo's G sales success is putting the heat on the 430 replacement. As discussed here many times before, looks a V10 is coming.

http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=103617

 

This is a re-post... mods pls delete.

 

They also say the 430 engine is 4-valve per cylinder.

 

It is. Isn't it? The 360 is 5 valves per cylinder, but the 430 is back to 4.

 

The 4.3 is 4 valves/cyl with chain driven cams.

Dave

 

Thanks for the correction. Somehow I assumed it still went with a 5-per configuration and when I checked the net, I happened on some sites that got it wrong:

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=132099

 

Autoweek reports a 5.4 liter V10 for the 430 replacement. Anyone have any more info, like when?

I have a 430 Spider on order to replace my 360 Spider and would consider waiting for the replacement if its 07 or even 08. 5.4 liters should give close to 600 shp which is a lot better than 487.

 

I don't seen it happenning in 07 or 08. The chances of that would have to be literally 0.00000001%. It seems as if each "entry level" Ferrari has 5 years in life. The 355 went from 94-99, 360 went from 99-04, F430 SHOULD go from 05-09. So the replacement would hit in 2010. 07/08 would be highly unlikely, meaning the F430 only lasted 2-3 years; which, from a marketting POV, is stupidity. Why build a car if it's only going to be in the market for two years, seems like a total waste of resources in R&D to me.

Sorry but I don't have any information regarding the details of the successor, but I'd bet the replacement to hit in 2010, not earlier than that - no.