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  1. joe sackey

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    #126 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    I THINK its 5112 as purchased by the late Manrico Zanuso....


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    #127 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    Walter's gonna need therapy.....


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    #128 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    3003 is the nineteenth (19th) car built.....

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    #129 wbaeumer, Dec 15, 2006
    ....(sic!).

    Ciao!
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    #130 wbaeumer, Dec 15, 2006
    .....(sic!).

    Ciao!
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    #131 wbaeumer, Dec 15, 2006
    ...my "airfield-car"!
    Where is it now?

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  7. joe sackey

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    #132 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    With an Italian in Sweden. LOL.

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    #133 505T, Dec 15, 2006
    Ah! You just had to rub it in, didn't you? Anyway, maybe one day.....
     
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    #134 RockaForte, Dec 15, 2006
    Where is it flawed ? Even the rivets (sp?) were mis-aligned in order to match the original from period pictures, its the work of many many years conducted by an extremely resourceful man backed by many factory records and the expertise of some of those involved with the Jota. Never the less its an extremely interesting fate to a car that other wise would have been used as donor
     
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    #135 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    Im sticking with my viewpoint of the Jota replica, which is a fair observation: "Its a GOOD one, but not an exact one"

    I know the man who built the engine, and I know the man who owns the car. It would be pretty poor form for me to start disparaging his car item-by-item, nonetheless Im sure the owner himself will be the first to completely agree its NOT an exact replica in all aspects, for several logistical and other unavoidable reasons. I will point out that some of the differences are pretty elementary and obvious for anyone who has very detailed images of the original car.
    Also, I know the car's current owner fully understands (he has told me so in the past) that when you create a replica, some will be delighted, others will citisize it, and others still will be totally against it. Replicas are a sticky subject with many, and the owner fully knows this. If you create a replica and its not 100% you should fully expect people to point it out.

    I should correct you in one small area: the factory did not supply ANY records. The reason was that it had....no records! My understanding (from the owner) is that he records were privately supplied via Bob Wallace and a Modena Corozzeria.

    Personally, replicas are not for me at all, however, I always say BRAVO to Piet for 13 years of hard work in creating his dream.

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    #136 RockaForte, Dec 15, 2006
    Thanks for the reply joe, even if you didn't actually replied... cheers
     
  12. FredParoutaud

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    #137 FredParoutaud, Dec 15, 2006
    Piet's car is fantastic, no matter how you slice it.

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    #138 joe sackey, Dec 15, 2006
    Sorry about that. I prefer to simply keep with my extremely fair assesment of this particular replica: Its "a GOOD one, but not an exact one"
    But, YOU can answer your own question by close study of original images versus images of the current car. Some aspects are just plain different and thats the bottom line.
    Is it a GOOD/great/fantastic/awesome car? Yes it is, but thats a seperate matter.
    I was merely commenting on the extent to which the car replicates its predecessor exactly. Im totally comfortable with my statement in that regard.
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    #139 Marcello, Dec 16, 2006
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    OK, thanks. But do you know where it is today?
    I heard the car might be bought by RM auctions and went to the US?
    Did it ever show up since 2001?

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    #140 Marcello, Dec 16, 2006
    Hi Walter,

    what do you mean by that?
    Did you once own this SV?
    Or saw it at an airfield once?

    Ciao!
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    #141 wbaeumer, Dec 16, 2006
    HI Marcel,
    no - never owned this car! When it was owned by Manrico Zanuso from Nuernberg/Germany I took the car for a photo-shoot for an Image-Car-magazine to a small little airfield. I drove the car and suddenly there was no brakes at almost full throttle at the end of the runway. I could only stop the car by getting sideways and slipping into a farm-land then. There the car came to a halt.

    I posted pictures from that shooting soewhere else on this Forum a while ago.

    Ciao!
    Walter
     
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    #142 joe sackey, Dec 16, 2006
    Im still looking for it...
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    #143 Marcello, Dec 18, 2006
    Hi Walter,

    Sounds like a nice ride through the countryside !
    Did it have no breaks at all, or just less then the racecars you used to drive?
    I'm going through the archive and will see your pictures for sure.
    Thanks for your reply.

    Ciao!
    Marcello
     
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    #144 Marcello, Dec 18, 2006
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    Hi all,

    This year no less then three Miura's showed up at this event.

    a red P400 S, #4692, wich is in a Dutch collection now.

    another red P400 S, Italian plates, starting with 223..

    and a mostard yellow SV, Italian plates BG 983408.

    Does anybody know more about these cars or their owners?
    I could not find the SV at Glen's registry!

    Best regards,
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    #145 joe sackey, Dec 18, 2006
    The yellow SV is 5092....
    Ciao,
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    #146 Marcello, Dec 18, 2006
    Thanks Joe,

    So it is the ex Wolf, factory museum SV.
    used to be on Bologna plates BO-2580.
    As it is registered on other plates now,
    is it sold, or still owned by Lamborghini Spa.?

    If it is indeed the same car, it now has been fitted with a black left driving mirror. While it was in the museum, it had no mirrors at all.

    Best regards,
    Marcello
     
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    #147 Vector-France, Dec 18, 2006
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    #148 joe sackey, Dec 18, 2006
    Yes, it is the same car, still owned by Automobili Lamborghini SpA, excercised occasionally by Valentino Balboni, and bemoaned by Walter Wolf (for now being yellow!!).

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    #149 joe sackey, Dec 18, 2006
    Yes, it was the worlds largest gathering of Jota-replicas (seriously)....
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    #150 joe sackey, Dec 19, 2006
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    This is 4980, one of a limited series of just 21 Miura P400SVs built by the works to type-approved specification for the USA, 8 single-sump cars (rarissimma!!) and 13 split sump cars. Pictured here in Monte Carlo in 2006.

    4980 was delivered new to Miami and now lives with a rabid SV enthusiast in Belgium, driven as the Great Engineer in the Sky intended.

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