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  1. Speedracer800

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    #1 Speedracer800, Jan 28, 2017
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    I'm doing a major modification of the interior of my 360 and part of the plan was to order up a set of these beauties from the great people at Ultimate Pedals.

    If you're unfamiliar with them.. You should definitely check out their website. They can basically do anything you want in terms of custom work. I selected everything here from the type of finish (matt or polished) to the embossing and type of grips. The options are pretty limitless. I also opted for a matching passenger side foot rest.. Why not right?? ;)

    What do you guys think? More pictures coming soon as well as an entire thread I'll start regarding all the work performed in the interior over the past couple months.

    Thanks for taking a look!
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  2. mkzhang

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    Wow looks great! I forgot, but did you redo your dash too?


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  3. Speedracer800

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    Thank you! No.. Didn't refinish the dash leather. Changing the carpet to black, taking care of all the sticky pieces, hydro graphics to the silver aluminum pieces and door sills. Also have a new custom carbon fiber and leather steering wheel on the way. Finally in the reassembly stage.. Thankfully. ;)
     
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    very nice. really enjoy your build progress and sharing of pictures
     
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    #5 sherpa23, Jan 28, 2017
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    Here's a shot of my interior for reference. I suspect that yours will probably look similar when done. Minus the F430 GT2 door panels and CS sport seats. I know you have regular door panels and 458 sport seats.
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  6. Kevin Rev'n

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    That's pretty cool stuff! I didn't know that such a thing existed!
     
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    Ryan, your 360 is badass. Not to mention those nicely refinished interior parts :D

    Seriously, the entire car is killer - especially the center locks.

    The OP's pedals are very nice. Hopefully those are anodized for some protection.
     
  9. sherpa23

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    Well, I had to get ALL of the interior parts refinished because they were sticky. I sent them to some dude in buffalo who talked just like Rob Gronkowski. Gronk's twin made them perfect.
     
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    Well, I don't know Rob but based on his last name, he is polish like me except I'm a rare pollock with no "ski" in my name :)
     
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    Sorry if this is a dumb question but what are "hydro graphics?"
     
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    Graphics that are transferred to sit atop a vat of water in which a part is dipped. The part's surface tension makes the graphic attach to it.
     
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    That footrest is awesome.
     
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    Those are gorgeous! What did that set you back?
     
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    Thank you. What's the point of that? Do you put logos and things on parts? Is that it?
     
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    #15 Speedracer800, Jan 29, 2017
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    Actually it's possible to transfer nearly any type of graphics imaginable with hydro graphics. I removed all the silver painted aluminum pieces within the interior and had them treated to a carbon fiber graphic we designed to match the original carbon weave on my 458 Carbon Sport seats.

    In my opinion this is a great alternative to purchasing new carbon fiber parts. The cost is a fraction of those pieces and best of all, you retain the original fit of your oem stuff. Also, just like paint there's several coats of clear that get applied after the graphics which allows for years of polishing out little scratches etc that will inevitably occur. Here are a few photos of my parts all finished. I'd love to hear your opinion..
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  18. Speedracer800

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    Thank you.. Really not too bad.. $338 total for all the pieces including shipping.
     
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    #17 sherpa23, Jan 29, 2017
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    What finish are on your seats. Here are the Novitec carbon pieces in my car and they look pretty different than what you just posted. Yours look like all the "carbon look" parts I see on eBay for the JDM cars. If you're designing this, maybe you can make it more like the OEM?

    Also, to do all the carbon parts isn't super expensive. I just sold some Novitec carbon door pieces (the large L shaped pieces) for a few hundred bucks. That said, you outlined good reasons to keep the aluminum and of course maybe it's possible that is just how they photograph and in real life it looks more realistic. A darker aluminum finish might be near, too, and it's not trying to be something it isn't. I do get the thought process though.
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    I wanted them to match my 458 carbon seat backs and they're an absolute dead on match to those. However, it's possible to match any carbon weave desired.
     
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    That is interesting. Can you post pics of your hydro graphics parts against the real OEM carbon? I would love to see. Clearly I am missing something and I like understanding all the options.
     
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    #20 Speedracer800, Jan 29, 2017
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    It's a bit difficult to photograph but I tried to show here the original Ferrari seat backs next to the graphics. It may be a bit tough to see.. But they look identical when looked at side by side.
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    #21 ShineKen, Jan 29, 2017
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    Sherpa. THAT is FIRE. Did you get your dash recovered in alcantara? The look you have is how I want my 355 to look!

    And you're absolutely right about the manual looking more proper in the 360 than it does in a 430. No manetino.
     
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    Very nice! What finish did you go with?
     
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    Close but not close enough. Carbon is black but reflects a gradation of black from different angles. The dipped pieces try to mimic that depth and reflection by throwing in some gray, which throws it off a bit. But to each their own of course.
     
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    #24 Speedracer800, Jan 29, 2017
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    Custom steering wheel coming as well. Carbon fiber with a flat bottom and black leather with black stitching to match the upper dash. Also doing the Italian flag "look" ring at the twelve o'clock position.
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    Love the alcantara dash too Sherpa.. How difficult is it to remove that upper dash pad? Your car is absolutely magnificent man!
     
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    They also use that to put camo print on hunting bows, shotguns etc. They just dip them en masse in a big vat with that print floating on it and voila, out it comes transferred on. Pretty amazing they can do it with as much detail as CF.

    Speedracer it all looks great! I'd love to get one of those wheels too, but pretty pricy from what I've seen... $2k plus you have to part with your orig wheel. It will all look amazing when you're done though!
     
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    Oh no man..Hit up Glenn at Exotic car gear. They're doing a special on wheels like this. $1000 plus shipping! You supply your wheel as a core AFTER the new wheel is ready so very little down time. Great deal right now!
     
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    This is pretty wild stuff - I'd like to know what drugs someone was doing to think this process up :D

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    Thank you. I will look into that!
     
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    Thanks, guys.

    I did get the upper dash recovered in alcantara. It's not a "dash pad" but the entire upper dash. It's a long story but because I put the carbon door cards from an F430 GT2 on there, I had to trim the dash 1.5cm on each side for it to fit perfectly against the carbon doors. Yes, Ken, those are michelotto parts :) . And they work perfectly with the electric windows and mice switches for the half pull window drops. Bill at Maranello Motorworks did the whole thing and it looks 100% OEM (well it is OEM parts). Both door cards weigh as much as just one single one of those aluminum door trim pieces.
     
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    Would it not have been less work to go with CF door cards? Any particular reason why you chose the ones from the 430 GT2?
     
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    #32 sherpa23, Jan 29, 2017
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    Not sure what you mean, Ken. They ARE carbon fiber door cards. How else do you get actual ferrari carbon fiber door cards if you don't get them from another Ferrari model that came equipped with them. The GT2 ones are by far the best made and most robust version and they are an exact fit. I was lucky to get them from Dee gee. It's all detailed in Trevor's thread.
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    I apologize I meant CS door cards :).
     
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    #34 sherpa23, Jan 29, 2017
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    Ah okay. Makes sense now and that is a really good question.

    A couple of things. First of all, I believe you still have to trim the dash for the CS door cards. None of the carbon door cards have the cut out that the stock door cards do.

    Secondly, and this was the big thing, every single F430 carbon part is superior to its 360 counterpart. The lay up process and materials used just got better. I got to see one set of CS door cards up close and they are much heavier than the F430 Its panels (like almost 5 lbs more per) and they're a wet lay up. Maybe they're not all the same but, as I said, I only got to see one pair up close.

    The F430 GT2 door cards are Michelotto parts and they're ridiculously light and strong. The only modification I made to the door cards themselves was to put a layer of clear on them to make them glossy to match all the carbon parts in my car (I did leave the "pockets" satin) and reinforce the inside corners with some extra carbon to make them extra strong for street use.

    In the end I just wanted the better parts and I was lucky to get them via an Fchatter (Time). The reality is that it was a much bigger undertaking than I had in mind as Bill had to to a lot of mods to the innards (like the electric window motor mounts, etc.) to make it all work but really they're a perfect fit and even has perfect trim around the edge where the meet the doors. The fit is absolutely perfect, as you would expect from OEM.

    Trev did the weight check, by the way, and the stock door cards are over 27 lbs each, the CS door cards are 5.5 lbs each and the F430 GT2 cards are 1.3 lbs each. I saved over 50 pounds on the doors alone. I saved a little over that buy going with the CS/F430 carbon seats, too. With nothing else, that's over 100 lbs. I have dropped over 250 lbs in all on that car and it really makes a difference. My 360 is the second most fun car I've ever driven and I am really lucky to have it.

    If anyone is interested, 360Trev is the one who really guinea pigged this all and while I wanted to keep things like the carpet and regular seat belts, he pioneered a lot of this. Here is a post in "his" thread about the door cards in particular but really the whole thread is chock full of info: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/140554841-post379.html
     
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    Yep.. Anything you can imagine can be done.

    I've got another complete set of the 360 pieces all done the same as mine that I'm planning on listing in the classified section here at some point.
     
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    That process is amazing. It's impossible to believe this process could work, and yet there it is.

    I've been disappointed with the long-term durability of real carbon fiber, I think I would prefer the hydro graphics from a durability for something cosmetic that didn't involve wait trimming.
     
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    Real carbon fiber is extremely durable if properly made for the right applications. Do you think that fighter jets would be made out of the stuff if it weren't durable?
     
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    Very well said. I'm actually a part owner of this business who performed the work on my parts. I invested because I believe the same as you just described..the process is amazing. The durability is time tested.. Our company has been doing this for nearly 10 years and we apply enough clear coat for years and years of polishing and corrective work should any fine scratches or swirls appear. You simply polish just as you would on any painted surface as the hydrographics is exactly that.. Paint with clear coat.

    The biggest determining factor for me is the ability to retain the use of the original Ferrari parts with the original factory fit. Anyone who has ever removed these pieces knows that they're a very tight and precise fit. I've seen it mentioned many times that the aftermarket carbon parts just don't fit as well as the OEM pieces do.

    PLEASE understand that this is NOT a slam against the companies who manufacturer this stuff.. Not in any way. It's just the nature of carbon fiber. The original aluminum pieces are heavier and just hold their shape better than carbon fiber does. If you're after the "look" of carbon fiber (like I am) and not concerned about the weight savings (like I'm not) hydrographics is a very good option for you.

    I'll be posting more photos of the parts back installed in my car very soon.. I'm anxious to hear what you guys think! I may be biased.. But I love the results so far. :)
     
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    Yes, I know it is durable from a structural standpoint, but aesthetically, it often doesn't age well. I'm sure there are million different quality levels, and some CF probably ages very well, but there is also a lot of it that doesn't.
     
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    Well that has to do with the clearcoat and the gel coat typically. There are kind that will look perfect in 20 years if properly cared for with no degradation of the clear or gel coat.
     
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    I definitely agree.
     
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    We "refinish" carbon fiber as well and like you're saying here the clear coat is nothing very exotic.. Carbon fiber can just have more clear coat reapplied and buffed out to looking new again.. However.. You wouldn't believe how many times we've applied hydrographics over the top of real carbon fiber.. No kidding.
     
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    Got them installed last night.. I really like them a lot.

    Pretty straight forward installation. Keep in mind my car is still missing some of the carpet sections in the driver's foot well area.

    Does require drilling holes in the original pedals but it's not too scary really. "Ultimate Pedals" provides all the necessary hardware and a really thorough set of instructions but it's pretty obvious what needs to be done. Took a couple hours to do the job and for the money.. I think a great interior improvement. :)
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    Wow, clutch and brake are far apart compared to a 355
     

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