Orphaned 330 GT: Engine Options

I have a complete carbureted 400GT 2+2 engine for sale. Don't know if it will fit but if you PM me your Email address I will send you the measurements.

 

I would certainly recommend that you go with an earlier 60/70s engines. I may know of someone with a 330 engine. Please ping me and I'll put you in touch with someone.

 

I have a block for a series 2 and can locate most of the parts to put an engine together.

 

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Will

 

Why not just go to GTO in London and have them make a new engine for the car at factory spec?

 

Request an estimate first, might be cheaper to buy a complete 330 2+2.

 

Might be cheaper to buy a 250 SWB than this route.......

 

If this fits it has to be the best alternative

 

A friend recently told me he has a complete 330GT engine for sale.
PM me if you'd like me to put you in touch.

 

I would not recommend the C/4 or 400I engine type. Way too complex and really outrageous to rebuild.

 

Plenty of 599 and FF engines coming up now, has to be done, combined with a modern gearbox and uprated suspension/brakes. Ferrari version of an eagle e type or Singer

 

I agree, really only two paths to follow: either go original or for a big modernisation aka power upgrade. It has to be top notch build to be desireable. The question of such and valuation will always somewhat apply. Going more modern then 456 engine is what I would choose too. Anything above that is probably too much for the chassis anyway in terms of handling and tyres, assuming you don't want to go modern there too. And all this is if your local legislation allows this, that is - you do want the result to be road legal.
EDIT: question about fitment, I think the width will become the issue. 330 engine bay is not that wide, the Colombo is quite narrow and 60 degree while the 456 engine is 65 degree V and larger capacity so two reasons why it's wider. I'd start finding some measurements! Then there is the oil pan and dry sump system to worry about etc. You won't be ready in a quarter that's for sure.
Personal opinion, if it has the original chassis and documents and still a 330 Ferrari on paper, I would pursue original. If what you have is just a shell then it's all up to your imagination.

 

Agree with the above strongly. If it has the original chassis and S/N, the best choice (both from a custodian and investment perspective) would be to find an original engine. If budget doesn't allow that, then a 400 engine seems like the next best choice (assuming it fits) because the price should be reasonable and that engine will still fit the character (and chassis capabilities) of the 330.

I also agree that, of the modern V12's, the 456 would be the best choice, but I would still be concerned that it might be an overwhelming amount of power for a 330 chassis. The 456's do 0-60 in 5 seconds flat and weigh nearly 1000 pounds more than a 330, so the performance of that engine in a 330 would be amazing, but also a bit scary. Even with the stock 330 motor, you do have to keep the limits of the 60's chassis in mind when driving it in a spirited fashion.

 

Crikey, costs are going up by the minute!


If the car has no S/N, then a same period v8 might be best, it's relatively inexpensive and the engineering has been done a few times (as much as I hate to say).
I have a 330 engine block but it's damaged and I'm using it as a coffee table.

 

I have an available Aston-Martin 1978 V8 5.3 liter engine... That would make it a Ferraston.

Seriously, I always fantasized about a 250 GTE body over a 456GT since I saw picture of that Volga that Russian built on a BMW850.

 

i have one. PM me for details

 

Is this block still 4 sale ?

 

Jag V-12?

 

Been done before as well in a 365
No SBC: Jaguar V12 Swapped 1968 Ferrari 365 GT 2+2 | Bring a Trailer

 

The hood scoop sucks

 

Agreed that the scoop is not ideal -- especially when looked at from the side view when you can see the full size of it. The Jag V12 with 6 carbs looks quite good though. I wonder if they needed the scoop to clear the air cleaners on the front carbs.

The jag engine is heavy as a replacement. If this site (Engine weight ? a comprehensive list - YouWheel.com - Car News and Review)
is to be believed, the Jag V12 weighs close to 700 lbs while the 250 engine weigh 382 lbs (they didn't have the 365 listed, 250 is closest form listed).

It's not a V12, but it seems like an older carbed Maserati Quatroporte V8 might be an appropriate and cost-effective option if it fits.

 

Yes it does. But those carbs need a lot of air.

I'm glad I did not suggest this, but I guess one option to still have a V12 and a manual gearbox, you could even fit the same kind of O/D as fitted on many Ferrari 2+2's.

But what would you call that? A Ferruar? Or a Jagurrari?

Cheers,

Pekka T.
Fin.

 

I just cant see a modern Ferrari engine working.

A Colombo V12 is a very compact thing, though I concede vintage V12 engine bays are roomy, 456 era V12s are heavy and huge. The power would be way beyond the capacity of the brakes and chassis. These modern engines also seem to require a vast supporting network of electronic management and monitoring devices.

I would chase up the 400 series engine, or go down the trusted route of using an American period V8. There are hundreds of examples and at least one book about these enjoyable mongrels.

 

I never liked the idea of using an American V8, but when they are done right, they seem to fit very well. Only two examples of being "done right" come to mind, though I'm sure there are more.

Example 1: (I think from OP) Post #9 here -> http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-thru-365-gtc4/434254-330-gt-engine-gearbox-question.html

Example 2: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/recreations-non-period-rebodies/552243-lafrance-hauler-250-gt-2-2-chevy.html