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Discussion in 'LamborghiniChat.com' started by kane00, Nov 24, 2006.
Can somebody tell me the PCD and ET of the SE30 front and rear wheels?
Thanks in advance
Front wheel markings
Thanks a bunch Lemacc, my rear wheel do not have any details on the centre!
I think Lamborghini made a second wheels run after the SE30 production.
Purple 30 exploding in the sunlight!
1994 Lamborghini Diablo SE30, Delivery-Miles, 1 of 1
BIN Price $525,000
A once-in a lifetime opportunity to own a delivery-miles Diablo SE30.
We are pleased to present for sale this 1994 Lamborghini Diablo SE30 with only 195 kilometers from new, perhaps the last truly “as-new” Diablo SE30.
#89 of only 150 produced, this US-legal Canadian-specification SE30 is finished in its original color combination of Nero Metallizato over Cream with black piping. It is 1 of 2 produced in the Nero Metallizato paint color, and the only example remaining. This SE30 is completely original and includes all books, tools, and racing harnesses.
This Diablo was originally owned & retained by renowned Montreal-based dealer & collector John Scotti until 2012, and serious collectors thereafter, finding its current home with a major collector in Louisiana in early 2016. The car returned to Scotti in 2016 for service.
The SE30 was in many ways Lamborghini’s answer to the Ferrari F50 and Bugatti EB110, including a number of highlights that made it the most hardcore of the road-going Diablo model range. These changes included unique and lightweight carbon fiber body panels throughout, lightweight magnesium OZ racing wheels, adjustable suspension with an on-the-fly adjustable sway bar, lightweight, honed, and completely bespoke engine & transmission internals, racing specification brakes with cooling ducts, and much more. The SE30, as a byproduct of this combined development, was the lightest street-use Diablo ever produced, coming in at 275 lbs lighter than a standard 2WD model, and 385 lbs lighter than a 4WD VT.
This is perhaps the finest example of a Lamborghini Diablo SE30 extant, and represents a once-in a lifetime buying opportunity with said miles. A European-spec SE30 Jota with 6,700km sold for over $750,000 at auction last year, and needless to say this car is priced highy competitively by comparison.
Here's the eBay link. Lousy and very few pictures...
1994 Lamborghini Diablo SE30
Some more (and better) SE30 #89 pics...Believe this is the car that Joe Sackey offered here recently.
Lousy? Actually, these stunning professional photographer images are some of the best studio images I have ever seen of any Lamborghini, period https://www.flickr.com/photos/sterlingsackey/sets/72157685520732653/with/36696563656/ you have to click on the individual images to open them up to full-resolution.
Those images are good, but the current studio images are clearly better.
Yes, this is the car I offered here, now properly portrayed and seriously for sale.
Thank you for viewing, if you are interested in purchasing the SE30 I would be happy to provide you with whatever pictures & info you might desire!
Hmm. A music video example, or a brand new example? Pretty sure I know which one I'd go for in a heartbeat.
Rick you are right, there is a big difference between the two cars that begs some contemplation.
The music video car is a RHD SE30 with 27,804 km in metallic purple and it will cost you $708,393.
The brand new car is a LHD SE30 with 195 km in metallic black and it will cost you $525,000.
At least we have choices!
That's right, I must have been going off the price of the RHD example in a different currency; I thought they were similar for some reason.
My apologies Joe, but I stand by my choice.
That's the beauty of choices.
I think the choice would be more on will you use it somehow or just store it.
Plus i think se30 must be purple
The notion that an ultra-low miles Lamborghini is destined for storage is not always reality, in this case especially as there is not a huge premium attached to the price of 089. In fact, it is much more competitively priced than the purple car, and it can be purchased and used on the basis that it represents an unrepeatable opportunity to purchase a 'new' SE30 at a fair price. We are seeing people buy ultra low-mileage classic Lamborghinis and then using them often, case in point the owner of the older era Countach S 1121098 who uses it regularly, as often spotted online, despite the fact that it was predicted here in this section that this car would just be stored.
SE30 purple is a cool color, but, an SE30 does not have to be purple (unless you own a purple one, of course), that's why Automobili Lamborghini SpA made them in so many other super-cool colors. I was at the Lamborghini factory when they were building these cars in the mid-90s and I recall seeing lots of different colors, examples of which are depicted throughout this thread. Also, on a personal basis, I have had excellent success finding homes for some incredible non-purple SE30s as depicted below, and I note that some non-purple SE30 colors can actually bring a premium.
Sorry, my mistake. I was simply referring to the 4 tiny pics on eBay front page. I didn't pay enough attention and missed the other excellent pictures on the Flickr link here:
Of courrse color is to taste, what I meant is that for me it must be purple its like the mental image i get from an se30 in my mind, and love that such a color could look and make look a car
No worries, it was apparent to me you missed the link.
Yes understood, you own a purple SE30 and I'd agree the best color is usually the one you own, meanwhile, Nero Metallizzato is both super-rare on an SE30 and a handsome color for any type of sports car.
Last week I eventually found time to take mine for a decent drive.
I did about 80-90 miles on what was basically a shake down test staying semi locally before I venture further a-field.
Things I noted on my first drive in it for a long time.
1. The weight - It really does feel like a light car compared to the standard models (two and four wheel drive). You can really throw it around like you can with a F40.
2. The power - Even by todays standards and the other cars I have the power is savage. It picks up speed very quickly, and the way the torque is delivered means that getting up to Motorway speeds is very easy.
4. In town - The rear width is always at the back of your mind, but the steering is light and well weighted so driving in a busy town is easy to do.
5. Ventilation - The SE30s up and also downside, the small quarter light windows may look cool, but that's the only cool thing about them. On a hot day they don't allow airflow to keep the cabin cool. Air Con? It was a token gesture from Lamborghini I am sure. Its like sitting in front of a hairdryer set to warm blow! I have a extra fan in the car now which helps though.
Values, there is another RHD one up for sale for £500k. But would I sell mine for that? No!
In rough figures F40s are twice the price, and with only 150 SE30 vs not far off 10 times that for F40s, I cant see what I would replace it with.
Thank you for sharing this, your excellent post has conclusively proven two things:
1. Black is the meanest most aggressive most sinister Diablo SE30 color bar none, period
2. Our 089 is the best SE30 deal in the world, full stop
Your pictures are stunning by the way!
Dion great to see you dusted her off and got some her out on the road! I couldn't agree with you more on the handling. As you probably saw in the CAR Magazine article, I had the pleasure of some hard driving in mine on Monte Bondoni (Lake Garda) and on the St Bernard Pass in Switz/Italy. Couldn't believe how nimble through the pins but just how much power was available coming out of them. 2nd gear is an unbelievable versatile gear for braking and accelerating. I also agree re Value. Just sit tight. There are only 8 RHDs left on the planet of 15 made. How many F40s are there out there?.......
Great to see Dion and his RHD Black SE30 back on the road. I couldn't agree more qith his synopsis. P30LAM and I were fortunate enough to join the Flight from St Agata 2 team under Mel Nichols which was published in CAR Magazine earlier this year (Jan Edition). I had the pleasure of driving P30LAM hard both on Monte Bondoni (Lake Garda) and also up and down both the Italian and Swiss sides of The St Bernard Pass. I drive several modern supercars but few has the sheer versatility, grunt and simplicity of the SE30 on the limit. And NONE give so much pleasure whilst also reminding you there are no fancy things to keep you alive if you get it wrong..... Dion summed it up perfectly. And as for price, there are 8 RHDs known to be left of an original 15 made......sit tight. How many F40s do you see.....
Some recent shots of P30LAM out and about. I hear what you say about black, but in certain light Red has to bring out some of the best detail on this stunning icon of a car. P30LAM is #125/150.
089, probably the most original as-new car on the market right now; I think black looks great on the SE. I have never seen the car but Nero Metallizzato seems to be more pearlish than Deep Metal Black. This car previously had a mph speedometer (see pic) and was listed about 10 years ago with 236kms at John Scotti. Later it was offered with a kmh speedometer and 191kms. Perhaps Quebec legislation requires a kmh speedometer? I wonder whether the current odometer reading is miles or kms? 046 was listed at John Scotti with 144kms at the time (and with a kmh speedometer), I believe it has over 400kms now.
There are other SE out there with very low mileage. I do wonder how many miles the Sultan of Brunei's yellow SE has; must be very low but I've heard that this car is not in the greatest shape as it hasn't been properly stored and maintained.
Nice car Dion. Are you still considering removing the enlarged air intakes?
Your car is the only SE that I know of with a golden bull logo on the passenger side dashboard. Do you know if this is original? Judging by the early road test articles, it has always had this.
Nice car, but the info that you provided is not correct. There were 24 RHD SE made and of these, I believe only one or two cars no longer exist today.
When I have it restored the intakes will go back to standard.
As for the Golden Bull, it has always been there.
Your F40 comparo is appropriate, they should be @ par.
089 is the only original as-new car on the market right now.
Nero Metallizzato is a Pearlized version of Black.
I addressed the USA-mandated speedo requirements here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/145424332-post1644.html and the docs supplied are attached.
BTYW, 046 has @ three times the milage you state at this point.
I am surprised that one of the owners of the 1300 RED F40's doesn't pick up a cooler , almost 10 times rarer SE30 for 1/2 to 1/3 of the current price. This is a moment to buy and the black low mile car is a real no brainer ! And when you get bored of it(if you ever do)....A future auction superstar!
Can you share a photo of the gold bull?
Can you tell us from which car is this low mileage speedo?
I've never seen a number that high. Always 15 (maybe 16) which given traditionally 10% of total run would be earmarked would make sense. I don't have a definitive number however and it's mainly conjecture. But I'm pretty sure I'm nearer the button than 24. I do categorically know of 3 that were lost on the track and one that burnt out and was basically a parts mule.
089, as I said
24 based on factory documentation, I personally know of 23 cars (at least)
Which three cars that you are referring to?
I presume this is what you want to see?
Those are the normal Euro belts, from what I understand the USA belts have a runner on the bottom that secure you when you enter the car.
Alex, you don't want to know, that and the monstrous grab-handle are two USA-only features that have no redeeming qualities, both of which the Canada-spec 089 does not have.
I find the Euro the purist design with the exposed fill cap, lack of side markers and smooth dash in front of the passengerni
What's the US authorities reasoning for not having the exposed filler?
The handful of Canada-spec cars have this.
Automobilia - Some years ago I was lucky to find this complete Diablo SE presskit as distributed to dealers and clients during Lamborghini Day 3 (09/1993, when the SE was revealed).
Automobilia - Lamborghini Day 3 invitation folder with enveloppe
Automobilia - Yearbooks '93-'95, I think the '93 Yearbook is most interesting when it comes to the Diablo SE
Automobilia - Presskit for the Paris motor show (10/1994), introducing Lamborghini's 'Carte Blanche' program; featuring the showcar Nº 055/150
Automobilia - Presskit distributed by Lamborghini (UK), offering the Jota modification kit to owners
Surprisingly , there 2x Diablo SE30 below 300.000 € in Germany, a new trend ?
285.000 € => https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=244595057&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=14600&makeModelVariant1.modelId=3&minPrice=250000&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C
295.000 € => https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=228972334&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=14600&makeModelVariant1.modelId=3&minPrice=250000&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&action=eyeCatcher
I am follwowing this thread since some time.
Lots of great information.
These cars are amongst the most fascinating Lamborghinis ever; I see them in line with the best models, like Miura SV, Diablo QV, etc.
But guys, let's get around with some realistic market figures:
Where do they stand with realistic prices (this means market prices, not dream-requests) now:
* Euro spec SE30s
* USA spec SE30s
* SE30 Jota
* SE30 Jota with road Registration
And how many of the SE30s have had accidents/ were total write offs.
Those who know the market: let's jump on it and give us your comment!
Those two cars are on sale since more than two years with a fluctuating price :
Black #144 :
February 2015 : Ralph Birwe - 255 000
December 2015 : Ralph Birwe - 369 000
July 2016 : Sportwagen Engel - 299 000
January 2017 : Sportwagen Engel - 295 000
2015 : 380 000
2016 : 339 000
2017 : 285 000