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  1. kc023515

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    I’ve been watching this Lamborghini section for some years but never saw a specific thread for the Silhouette. This model deserves an own thread; it was the first convertible Lamborghini that went into production and with around 35 units surviving out of 54 produced it’s as rare as a Reventon today.

    Any info on the Silhouettes; VIN’s, pictures, documents, articles, owner reports, … will be nice.

    Here are some pictures of Silhouettes that appeared in other threads:
    #40032 a long term restoration project: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137856954&postcount=72
    #40046 a bit tuned but still looking stunning: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137879583&postcount=77
    #40052 currently for sale: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139844046&postcount=1
    #40054 in the Lamborghini Museo http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138932922&postcount=138
    #40066 sold last week at auction: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139845122&postcount=11
    #40076 the only USA delivered Silhouette: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139845294&postcount=15
     
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    #2 kc023515, Aug 26, 2010
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    ... a group picture
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    I am trying to learn about hese more and more each day..

    I see some have a different color leather stripe in the seats and some are a solid one color..?
     
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    #4 Tony Ierardi, Aug 26, 2010
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    Different colors yes but the factory interior has the center stripe on the seats as well as two sets of speaker holes in the headrest to the left and right of the center stripe.

    If it is different then the seats have be recovered.

    Also dash and center console were both mousehair from the factory.

    I'm happy to help with any info I can.

    Tony
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    #5 joe sackey, Aug 26, 2010
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    Correct as it relates to all Silhouettes originally having a mouse-hair dash.

    But bear in mind some cars had fabric-covered seats.
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  6. kc023515

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    Around half of the production had this color stripe. So far I know 14 Silhouettes with the color stripe (early and late production, original and restored).

    There’s no link between the stripe color and the exterior color.

    When I saw an interior picture for the LP550 Balbino it reminded me immediately about the Silhouette.
     
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    #7 silhouette, Aug 27, 2010
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    a couple of photos of mine
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    and two more
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  10. EMILIO

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    nice car

    interesting thing: this car has an LP 400 steering wheel and not urraco's one

    p.s. i sent you an e mail
     
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    #10 P300V8, Aug 27, 2010
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    40006 grazing quietly at Hever Castle 2010
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    I'm searching #40040 since years, where did you find this picture?
    I would be interested to purchase this car.
     
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    Interesting about the seats, but how about the black colour at the front spoiler, some cars have and some dont? Is there any logic behind? (I suspect not, this Lamborghini we are talking about ;-))
     
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    Tony,

    Did Lamborghini ever mount speakers in the Silhouette seats? I seem to remember that Recaro used to make a seat back in the 70's that had speaker holes in the seat and you could mount speakers in them.

    Mike
     
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    Can I make a suggestion?
    This thread will eventually fall by the wayside. Just my experience over a dozen years.
    I would like to see this combined with the Urraco thread and renamed the "Silhouette & Urraco Thread"
    Then maybe more activity will keep both alive.
    These cars are basically the same.
     
  17. Peter K.

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    As in my Urraco, the coolest thing on these cars is that steering wheel!
     
  18. P300V8

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    LHD cars have the four spoke dished stering wheel.
    RHD cars have a three spoke wheel.
     
  19. hyenahf

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    thats because its a rhd

    to the best of my knowledge nearly all RHD urraco and silhouettes dont have deep dish 4 spoke urraco wheel.
     
  20. hyenahf

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    that pic came from a french car magazine test... i have the issue

    cheers

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  21. Tony Ierardi

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    The black lower portion was factory correct and original.

    It gets painted after or on top of the body piant.

    A lot of cars, my ex car included after a repaint choose to leave it body color.

    My ex car (40076) had a bare metal restoration paint job but the interior is original.
     
  22. Tony Ierardi

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    Yes, my ex car had 2 factory speakers in each headrest.
     
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    Same as Countach LP400
     
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    the red brochure car with balboni driving dosent have the black painted front spoiler, interesting to note it has the bright work windshield trim as well. it may be the early pre-production protoypte car.

    the white car brochure car dose have the painted lower.
     
  25. Tony Ierardi

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    That sounds right.

    When my ex (40076) was featured in Car & Driver magazine it had the lower black painted chin.
     
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    #24 Jalpa_Mike, Aug 27, 2010
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    I wish I had more information on this Silhouette for you. It came to the 2003 Italian Concours and we had it parked right next to Tony's old Silhouette. Pretty incredible sight to see (2) Silhouette's side-by-side.

    I'm not sure what happened to the car. I just remembered that it was owned by a couple who trucked it to the event from Whitefish, Montana.

    Mike
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  27. kc023515

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    That must be #40070

    The car was for sale time ago, not sure if it still is.

    Here's the link http://www.chooseyouritem.com/exotics/files/876500/876510-1.1978.Lamborghini.Silhouette.html
     
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    Correct and it's the only picture I have for this car.

    It's a scan from Sport Auto June 1978.

    The car was sold to a Swiss dealer when new but there are rumors that there was a Japanese customer behind. The car was also described as racing car but I've no idea were this refers to.
     
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    The Whitefish Montana car is 40070. It was offered for sale at Monterey in August but failed to reach the reserve price.
     
  30. P300V8

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    To the best of my knowledge I do not believe that the red brochure car is is a prototype and I suspect it is 40004.

    The white brochure car is a prototype. The clock and heater control location and window switch type are all different to the production cars.
     
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    Some RHD Urracos also had the LP400 wheel.

    Of the nine RHD Silhouettes I know that at least one car (40088) has the Ferrara wheel with two holes in each spoke. I had the same wheel on my P300. It was also used on the Jalpa prototype.
     
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    "Ferrero" ;)
     
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    Your car must like castles because she lived in one for some years.
     
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    #32 kc023515, Aug 28, 2010
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    I also suspect it’s #40004, production #2.
    The white brochure car is #40002 (also known as the 2nd prototype).
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  35. P300V8

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    That's the one!
     
  36. hyenahf

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    so what ever happen to this prototype?

    http://www.lambocars.com/jal/silhpr.htm


    i love the round early "walter wolf" inspired flares. i think they used it on the yellow urraco test mule with bravo wheels also which is at the lambo museum today. it seem they are restoring and replicating the flares in alloy but dont look the same as the fiberglass ones on.
     
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    cool thread. i should have sought out and bought a Silhouette years ago when they were cheaper. The Jalpas i owned were a disappointment.The early euro Urracco will always have a special place in my list of cars i have had. Strange how the Silhouette never got much exposure, movie usage ect.
     
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    yes, i believe there is a movie featuring the silhouette!!! if memory serves it a metallic brown or gold color car it in the background of a scene in for a fraction of a second.

    P300 urraco's are amongst the most underrated cars of the junior exotics.

    hf
     
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    Initially proto 1, aka chassis #40000, was different from the others; f.e. the flares and a fin in the center behind the rear window, different dash, also no badges or outside mirrors.

    The last picture shows the car after it was converted to “standard” modifications.

    A source says it was crash-tested, another source says it was sold as a standard model to Achilli Motors Milan. Maybe they’re both right … The only trace I’ve for this car are these period pictures.
     
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    The question which is not yet proved with pictures, had this car the hardtop? since you might member the yellow P300 test bed car at the factory which had the same flares, that prototype car might still have had the normal P300 roof.

    I know it's unlikely but perhaps somebody has a picture which shows the roof/hardtop of this prototype.
     
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    raymond,

    i not sure what your comments are referring to? are you suggesting that early prototype had a hard top? you can clearly see a parting lines of the "targa top" i would deduce that the parting lines along with stout targa style B pillar/sail panels indicates the roof was removable.

    there was another P300 urraco running around the factory with Bravo wheels besides the yellow test mule. hard to tell exactly what color it was since the photo's are in b&w but im certain it isnt yellow.

    regards

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  43. P300V8

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    It was a snorkel on the engine cover.

    Since the car was conceived as a targa I cannot imagine why this prototype should have a fixed roof, and particularly in view of the limited development budget. The profile of the roof is very flat and looks completely different to the Urraco.

    Do you have a picture of the dashboard?

    It has been suggested that the lack of badges was an attempt at anonymity whilst road testing.
     
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    i owned car 40002.. sold it 3 years ago... proto 2, prod 1
     
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    It sounds unlikely that the prototype had a fixed roof but with Lamborghini nothing is impossible.

    The Silhouette is reported as presented at the Geneva Motor Show in 1976. #40000 was the only finished car at that moment so it must be that car, but in which livery (proto or production)? Any period pictures?

    Sorry, I’ve no picture for the dashboard but it was close to the Urraco dash.
     
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    Can you tell us in which area this car is living today? Is it in a museum or in a private collection? Last trace I’ve for the car is in 2006 when it was for sale in Canada.
     
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    That car came from Switzerland, i remember the ad and the price as a good deal.
     
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    40002 is currently in Canada. It is in private ownership and not in a museum.
     
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    yes it was offered for sale around $30K usd in circa 2001.
     
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    40002 is prototype 2 but it is not production car 1.
    40006 is well documented as such and was delivered on the same day that 40002 was tested.

    The dates relating to their pre customer preparation are documented by Pasini as follows

    40000 body 001 (prototype) tested 16.09.76 delivery 19.09.76
    40002 body 01 (protoype) tested 01.10.76 delivery 09.12.77
    40006 body 1 (production) tested 25.09.76 delivery 01.10.76
    40004 body 2 (production) tested 06.10.76 delivery 08.10.76

    40006 has *1060*1* stamped at the base of the engine cover strut.

    As a previous owner of 40002 do you believe it was the white brochure car?
     
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    My apologies there were a couple of typos in the dates so here they are correct this time I hope!

    40000 body 001 (prototype) tested 16.09.76 delivery 18.09.76
    40002 body 01 (protoype) tested 01.10.76 delivery 09.12.76
    40006 body 1 (production) tested 25.09.76 delivery 01.10.76
    40004 body 2 (production) tested 06.10.76 delivery 08.10.76
     
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    #40002 seems to a have a different center console without toggle switches and cigarette lighter. whats the metal thing by the hand brake on the white brochure car?
     

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