The (one and only) '0846' Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Nov 11, 2003.

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  1. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Moving right along...
     
  2. Napolis

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    #2
     
  3. Napolis

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  4. Napolis

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  5. Napolis

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  6. 134282

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    J.G., these are spectacular...! We're all salivating, waiting for the finished product... Thanks for posting...
     
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  8. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks.
    After much thought I have deceided to set up a private shop near my home. After the first of Jan. the P4 will painted and Sal and I will go out collect it and bring it home for final assembly. You and the Bird will have to stop by.
     
  9. Boudewijn

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    Thanks for the close follow up James.
     
  10. Napolis

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    Note the roof exit vents. They were present only on the P4. No original P4 coupe exists so we had to go from blueprints and photo's.
    Best
     
  11. Boudewijn

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    Artisan art I would say.
     
  12. 134282

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    Seriously...? AWESOME...!!! Thank you...! i'm gonna call her tonight...! Hopefully, by January/February, she'll have toned down her hours from work...

    What do you mean "collect it"...?
     
  13. Napolis

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    Just that. Go out to Indy where John's shop is. (The person who fit the body), make sure we're happy, load her into an enclosed trailer and tow her home.
     
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  15. wax

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    Son't forget to put a "Do Not Disturb" sign on the trailer's lock before the journey begins.
    Don't forget to put a "Lobster" bib on DES's neck - better make it a double - all that drool...
     
  16. Napolis

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    The main reaction one has, when seeing this car in person, is amazement as to how small it is and how big the balls of those who drove her at speed at SPA in the rain were.
    Best
     
  17. Texas Forever

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    Jim, I realize that us in the peanut gallery can't vote (after all, it is your car), but it has occurred to me that this restoration would make a great art exhibit. You could have a series of rooms. The first room could have life sized pictures of the car as you found it. Each successive room would then have life sized pictures of the destruction and recreation process ending, of course, with the final product.

    Don't get me wrong. You sound like the kinda guy who will take this car out on track. However, odds are good that this may be near the last time that someone is willing to do what you have done. It takes a very special person to be willing to pour the time and money into a project like this. Thus, a documentary of your trials and tribulations will enable countless old farts to say to the their kids, "See, this is how they used to do it!" Great job.

    Dale
     
  18. Bill Sawyer

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    I hear you, Dale. One of the great things about Jim is that he is creating a living record of his restoration here on F-Chat. Since Rob plans to keep the archives forever, future generations will have the benefit of Jim's posts here.
     
  19. KennyH

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    James, I can't wait! Des, think I can replace the bird on that date? ;)
     
  20. Schnelles Fraulein

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    Mr. Glickenhaus.. i'd be delighted! i might even wear some clothes! ;)
     
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    hey.. back off! :)
     
  22. Napolis

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    Dale
    Thanks! I am thinking about writing a book, mostly pics "Three For The Road" about my adventures with my MK-IV, Lola, and P4. A few old farts might enjoy it.
    Bill
    Thanks as well!
    Sasha
    :)
    Kenny et. al
    Once my shop is set up you're all welcome.
    Best
     
  23. wax

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  24. Napolis

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  25. KennyH

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    A few old farts? Try every car true car enthusiast... I'd buy one as long as you'd autograph it!
     
  26. Stickanddice

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    Jim,

    Last book you recommended (Spain's) I enjoyed tremendously. If you publish one it is a guarantee to be on my shelf. "Three for the road", hahaha, awesome title.

    Car looks magnificent. Can't wait to see her completed.

    Cheers
     
  27. 134282

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    LOL, Bird... You in clothes...? Hmmm... That's a novel idea...

    Kenny, if she didn't accept, you would've definitely been next on my list, but it seems Mr. J6 himself is welcoming all who want to stop by... Good, 'cause choosing between you and the Bird would've gotten messy... :)

    i mirror Taek's comments, Mr. G., i, too, would love to own a copy once published... An autographed copy would be even cooler... :)
     
  28. 134282

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    Oh... and do FerrariChat members get a discount...? :)
     
  29. Napolis

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    This will give you an idea as to how little filler we're using...
     
  30. Napolis

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    In the booth...
     
  31. Enzo

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    James,

    Amazing!!! I have to thank you for letting us all along for the ride on your restoration of the P4. This is certainly a historic event.

    Pat
     
  32. Sfumato

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    Primer, bare metal, Rosso, still one of the best looking designs anywhere, of anything!! Nice metal work. Devil is in the details....
     
  33. Napolis

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    Thanks. I'm really happy about how little filler we're using. We're now shooting primer.
     
  34. adesalos

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    Any restoration of any mechanical parts? Engine, transmission...
    Any interior restoration?
     
  35. Napolis

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    Engine
     
  36. Napolis

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  37. Napolis

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  38. Napolis

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    Suspention
     
  39. adesalos

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    So basically, this is a new car...
    Who did the engine and interior restauration?
    Any dyno numbers for the engine?
    Do you intend to race the car?
    When do you think it will be ready and youare going to show it publically?
     
  40. adesalos

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    From your picture, the chassis seems awfully small / weak? Did you replace the tubing with higher grade steel (and therefore smaller section)?
     
  41. Napolis

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    This is the original chassis. (The repaired remains of 0846) The repairs are correct to original spec. Many of the welds are original. Every one has been inspected. As the water and oil flo through the chassis tubes it wasn't an easy task.
    The engine is original as well. It was rebuilt by Alberto Pedretti and Bob Wallace. It makes 450HP @ 8000 rpm's.
    The interior is original unrestored.
    The uprights were recently cast by Ferrari SPA. (I have the originals but am not sure they're still safe)
    John Haydak Jr. of MetalKraft fit the NOS coupe body to the original mid section.
    The trans is original P4 as is the rest of the car.
    The final assembly will begin after Greg of GS customs finishes painting ,
    back in my shop by Sal Barone who is the person who's in overall charge of the restoration.
    I hope to have it finished for this coming spring.
    I'm going to drive it on the street.
     
  42. adesalos

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    In which state do you live. Will it be possible to come and see the car?
     
  43. Napolis

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    I'll let you know where it will be shown as it gets closer to being complete. (Next spring).
     
  44. amenasce

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    James,

    What do you mean by "private shop" ?


    Cant wait to see it !

    April is sooo far away !!

    Best

    Andrew
     
  45. Napolis

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    A friend and I have purchased a very small shop which we are going to use to maintain and restore our cars.
    Have you spoken to your Dad about his latest?
    Best
     
  46. amenasce

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    James, thats great ! Having your own shop ! Thats a dream of mine !

    I spoke to my dad this week end and i heard it by the phone..it sounds great and looks beautiful !
    It arrived last friday at Classic Coach i think. I dont knowwhen he will try it though !
    Cant wait to see you two on the track :)

    Andrew
     
  47. zjpj

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    This is amazing! The finished product is going to be spectacular. What a project.
     
  48. Napolis

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    Today we're applying the undercoating to prevent the damage caused when the tires kick up stones into the wheel wells. "Reverse Hail Damage"
     
  49. Napolis

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  50. Napolis

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  51. Napolis

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  52. Texas Forever

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    James, just curious. What kind of undercoating are you using? Dale
     

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