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  1. johnhoughtaling

    johnhoughtaling Formula 3

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    All get you my jarama vin tomorrow.

    Anybody see the lamborghini special on Wealth TV. Apparently they featured the Shah's SV and I missed it.
     
  2. Chaos

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    i've often wondered why 4870 was tuned yet the SVJ's are stock mechanicals
     
  3. joe sackey

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    Some of the SVJs are similarly tuned, but we are talking about a very basic tune (bigger main jets, slightly taller cam profiles). The basic components are all SV...
     
  4. Chaos

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    aha that makes things a little clearer.

    see i always used to to think that was the case.
    till you said ages ago "svj's use totally standard mechanicals"


    out of interest what sort of power is 4870 (genuinely) reputed to put out ?
     
  5. Ado4wd

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    Do you still drive the car to Seaside? I'm there occasionally and if I saw this car parked there I would fall into the ocean. Simply beautiful.
     
  6. joe sackey

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    I never got the chance to dyno...
     
  7. johnhoughtaling

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    I posted the dyno sheet the day it was born. They factory didn't show horsepower figures but torque figures. I think the original horsepower of 385 was egagerated by that factory but if you equate the increased torque of 4870 to the factory figures it equates to 450hp.

    I'm not sure of what it's pulling after it's new tuning but it's screaming! I drive an f430 everyday and the car feels crazy fast!!
     
  8. joe sackey

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    Correct, I forgot about those original numbers...
     
  9. flxzcat

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    I was standing next to, and heard, the ex zinc Miura roadster running at Pebble Beach this year. The sound was quite impressive. Joe, do you know what modifications (if any) were done to the engine? Driving around in a friends freshly rebuilt Islero that weekend, I couldnt help but notice the difference.
     
  10. Chaos

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    its a shame the figures stopped at 7000

    BHP = torque x revs / 5252
    kg m x 7.233 = lb ft

    39.5 kg m = 285.7 lb ft @ 7000rpm
    which if you run the math means 380bhp @ 7000

    (and peak torque of 328 lb ft @ 5000rpm)
     
  11. joe sackey

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    I believe the engine is a standard P400 unit...
     
  12. Ulmis

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    Aparently you know jack and **** about 1953 in Iran, Mohammed Mossadegh and the CIA coup d`etait.

    Do yourself a service and read :

    http://www.amazon.com/All-Shahs-Men-American-Middle/dp/047018549X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235405945&sr=1-2
     
  13. joe sackey

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    Sorry for the OT, John did you get my PM?
     
  15. johnhoughtaling

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    chaos:

    They ran 4870 to 8,000. If you look at the factory dyno it 4870 was tuned to a max of 48 kg.

    Really amazing. And I can tell you the current seat if the pants feel is crazy fast.

    Raymod: I'll get back to you on the PM

    For everyone else, if your interested I can post some more historical docs and articles.
     
  16. Chaos

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    whoops, i looked at the wrong sheet.
    i worked out the figures from this post (which is EM42's Islero) http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138327528&postcount=114

    i'll work out the power if 4870 for real now.
     
  17. joe sackey

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    Drumroll please...
     
  18. Chaos

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    right 48 kg m @ 5000rpm = 347 lb ft

    power =

    423 bhp @ 6500
    429 bhp @ 7000
    430 bhp @ 7500 (assuming the torque figure ive used of 41.6 is correct, as its not quite clear on the scan)
    421 bhp @ 8000


    so from that we can see that assuming the dyno was accurate that the peak power is 430 bhp @ 7500 (actually could be slightly more - but we dont have the figures for other revs)

    430 bhp @ 7500rpm
    347 lb ft @ 5000rpm

    those would be bl**dy good figures from a 4 litre today (the latest M3 has slightly less than those from a high revving 4 litre V8)
     
  19. joe sackey

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    The car only weighs 2800 lbs!
     
  20. Chaos

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    338 bhp per ton
     
  21. em42

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    By the way, that is very good news for my Islero!
    I worked out 6300 figures with the formula you reminded us and I was really impressed: 380 bhp at 7000 rpm is really way beyond stock Isleros' figures.
    Attached, the graph that I derived from my build sheet.
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  22. johnhoughtaling

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    thanks Chaos!!

    I can confirm it feels that fast. Even compared to my F430 daily driver
     
  23. Fastpants

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    Forgive the noob-ish question, but I noticed the little "don't shift here!" metal tab on the shift gate is in the lower-right on the Miura, whereas they're in the upper-right on Countachs. Does the Miura have a "standard" shift pattern (first is up and to the left) as opposed to the "racing" pattern (first is left and down) on CTs?

    BTW, those 1/4 mile times you posted in your Countach are phenomenal!! And your first time on a strip! Well done, old bean! It's not modded at all?
     
  24. johnhoughtaling

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    the test times were timed on the drag strip. Original tires. Car was not modded, but it is an extremely well tuned DD, with 455hp.
     
  25. bmwm3

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    This is probably one of the best threads ever on Fchat!!
     

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