Who knows the true story of the two Ferrari Bartoletti 642 rn2 racetransporters ?

Fantastic photos, Ed. Thanks!


Onno

 

any photos of the engines or the cabins?

 

I think I know where a trailer with the lift gate to get the cars on and off is. I will call and see if it is for sale. Mark
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I just found this one, taken at the factory in 1971.
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Very nice... On the right is the Mercedes truck from the GELO Racing Team. The German Georg Loos ran a 512 M in 1971.

 

Its good that this fantastic footage covers Fangio`s way of driving the fantastic 250F rather than the F.-transporter for a little less than a second!

Ciao!
Walter

 

The "German" Transporter was sold by Axel Schuette within Germany to collector WB.

Ciao!
Walter

 

This trailer matches the 1966 Fiat transporter sold at Gooding at Monterey a few years ago.

 

Please forgive that this is Off Topic but the July edition of 'Automobile' magazine has a nice 3 page article on the Baroletti Scarab transporter. This transporter was also used by Alan Mann Racing to transport Cobras & GT 40's. It was treated to a 8,000 hour councourse restoration. It is beautiful!!
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Same GELO transporter at a different angle?
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wow! that is a cool picture!

wow! there is alot going on there!

 

Check out the interesting ex-Tom Shaughnessy Ferrari transporter:

From page 4 of this thread: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/alfa-trucks-buses-marine-aviation-rail-industrial/50281-1950s-scuderia-ferrari-alfa-truck-4.html

It was sold at the Gooding Pebble Beach auction in 2007
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For Sale!

http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/80217/index.html?no_cache=1&ret=20&request%5bfilter%5d%5boffset%5d=0&request%5bfilter%5d%5browcount%5d=6&request%5bfilter%5d%5border%5d=year&request%5bfilter%5d%5bdesc%5d=asc&request%5bfilter%5d%5bdealer%5d=1014

Wonder what the price is....


Jim, this would be a great addition to your stable!

 

I made an offer that wasn't accepted and now that I see this I'm glad:

"One 682RN2 existing and owned by Pat Hart. It was also restored by Silma Bus of Modena but seems to come from a donor chassis of a similar type more recent and doesn't seem to be the Ferrari original one."

If this is true I'm really not happy that I wansn't told this by the Dealer who offered it to me.

 

Andrea

Are you saying that the 682RN2 once owned by Pat Hart is based on a donor chassis?

How do you know this?



"One 682RN2 existing and owned by Pat Hart. It was also restored by Silma Bus of Modena but seems to come from a donor chassis of a similar type more recent and doesn't seem to be the Ferrari original one.

Then Bill Noon told in this thread that he is the actual owner of two chassis of original trucks ( # 3001 - 682RN2 and # 3002 642RN2) .
The truck seen in Giotto post #15 seems to be a truck commonly used for amusement-parks and carousels removals (I have seen hundreds like this in Italy)


Something sounds odd."

Best

 

Thank You Very Much for your message. I agree with you totally and remained troubled.

Best

 

Good day esteemed members of this group.

I am the dealer that offered the 682RN2 to Jim.

I did so earlier last month. Jim made a substantial offer but it was insufficient for what was needed to complete a sale.

I want to make it clear that at all times Jim acted in good faith and I have no complaints whatsoever in how he conducted himself.

After Jim's offer was declined I sold the transporter to another buyer. In between Jim's offer and up to the present, I have allowed unrestricted access to the transporter by a variety of interested parties both the curious as well as potential buyers. There has been no restriction on viewing and inspecting the vehicle or substantial records and documentation by anyone who has asked to do so.

I have also given out several fun test rides to members of this group simply for taking the time and patience to actually visit with us.

I will not discuss the other "Ferrari" transporters that I have not been involved with, owned or sold. To comment on something I have not been involved with or have direct knowledge on would be inappropriate to say the least.

I am not a paid subscriber to this group and therefore do not have the rights or privileges to post photos and documents.

For the record here are the facts specific to this transporter.

Year 1959
Make FIAT
Model 682/RN-2
Chassis No. 682RN2 *001461*
Engine No. 203.0/3 *024568*
Registration MO 53210 (1959-1970)
Registered VE 209093 (1970)
Registered PD 467856 (1971-1994)

This FIAT was ordered and delivered new to “Auto Constuzione Ferrari” and specifically used initially by the Scuderia Ferrari and then later SEFAC Ferrari from 1959 until 1970.

The continuous Italian Road Registration, log book, ownership documents etc... remained with the vehicle and were current up to the time of our purchase many years ago.

Each owner since knew is officially recorded and the records are public and can be accessed to this day through the Italian authorities.

Each of the owners were well aware of the ownership and use by the Scuderia Ferrari and the SEFAC Ferrari of this transporter. There was no mystery and this transporter was never lost or rediscovered. It has since new always been well known for what it was and remains to this day.

During the restoration at great expense and time the original (not replacement frame etc...) was painstakingly rebuilt and the entire vehicle faithfully restored as best possible back to the original SF / SEFAC configuration. Upon completion of this work the transporter was entered and displayed at Pebble Beach where to quote many; "It stole the show!"

Prior to our purchase, Keith Martin from the Sports Car Market Letter, Matt Jones from Re-Originals in Texas and a prominent Italian Law Firm where contracted to independently confirm the details regarding ownership and history of this transporter and another we bought at the same time. They also oversaw and assisted during the restoration to ensure the work was performed and completed accurately and faithfully.

Anyone who is states that this transporter is a replica, re-framed or fraudulent had better have both the facts to prove such allegations and the stamina to do so publicly.

I want to make it clear again, I have without restriction of any kind provided access to all individuals who have asked for access to both the vehicle itself and the period, prior to, during and after restoration records, photos and receipts.

If someone wishes to comment contrary to what I have provided ask them clearly and directly when they and where they viewed this transporter and the associated photos and documents.

For those who do not know who I am, I am Bill Noon from Symbolic in La Jolla, California.

I do not hide my identity or what I do and how I do it behind any alternate name or identity.

My direct phone is 619 840 7811

My direct email is [email protected]

I have had the same cell number since 1990.

I have had the same email address since 1997.

I have been in the same location and business since 1994.

No one anywhere will ever have any problem ever getting a hold of me or getting immediate attention to their questions and concerns.

I therefore remain always and respectfully,

Bill Noon

 

Thanks again for your meticulous research and the information you sent me! I fully agree with your conclusions.

Best

 

And what's with the Maserati transporter with licence plate MO-43571?