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  1. ApexOversteer

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    #101 ApexOversteer, Nov 19, 2008
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    Lamborghini Chat

    Front Engined Lamborghinis - This section is devoted to the 350/400GT, Islero, Espada, Jarama, LM002 and Estoque - Sticky the large 350/400GT thread as a general discussion thread.

    Baby Bulls - This section devoted to the Urraco, Silhouette, Jalpa and Gallardo - Sticky a General Gallardo discussion/photo thread.

    The Supers - This section devoted to the Miura, Countach, Diablo and Murcielago. Sticky "Miura: The Original Supercar", "Countach: The Iconic Supercar", and two new general discussion/photo threads, "Diablo: The Extreme Supercar" and "Murcielago: The Modern Supercar". These are left open for continued contribution, with the idea that they function like the F-Chat Showroom section threads do for the Ferrari models represented there, with more specific question threads making up the rest of the section.

    Lamborghini Miscellania - This section would be for semi-off topic discussion of Lamborghini specific events, collectibles, and anything else that does not fit elsewhere.


    This is just a rough sketch, obviously needing to be fine tuned. Just my own ideas.
     
  2. rob lay

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    #102 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    The Ultimate Miura Thread
    The Master Miura Thread
    Miura's!
    More Miura's!!!
    All about Miura's
    Post about Miura's
    Miura's ONLY!
    M - I - U - R - A
     
  3. joe sackey

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    #103 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    Let me make one good, positive organizational suggestion from this thread: lets leave well-enough alone.
     
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    #104 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    Is that what Ferruccio said after the 350 GT?
     
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    #105 kcassady, Nov 19, 2008
    Pretty damn cool for a rough sketch......
     
  6. joe sackey

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    #106 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    Looks good. Nothing wrong with those titles. I wish others would make an effort to start Miura threads.... but thats UP TO THEM, not me.

    Its just silly to expect me to start a new thread each time I want to post some interesting Miura material! In fact I think people ENJOY the continuity, and the body of work they can come back to, and it shows by the vies and total posts. Dave (mod) makes it sound like its harder to search for something in one long-standing thread than it is to look through 5 pages of long-lost threads. Baloney.
     
  7. joe sackey

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    #107 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
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    Nah, he said lets do something radical that we will name MIURA. But he wasn't administering a forum...




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  8. rob lay

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    #108 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    I personally don't think most things should go in a Master <model> thread. I would put anything related to a specific SN in its own thread, I would put anything specific to a certain part in its own thread, I would even start a separate thread if you wanted to talk about only black Miuras, and then of course individual technical questions should be in their own thread. So what is left besides that?

    Exactly, I have a great idea! How about we call YOUR one thread to post interesting Miura material and enjoy the continuity of YOUR thoughts the... get ready for this everyone, it is a huge idea. We should call it "Joe's Miura Thread".

    Dang that came out so easy and makes so much sense it hurts.
     
  9. ApexOversteer

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    #109 ApexOversteer, Nov 19, 2008
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    I'm sorry but IMO the answer to "what should we call the Miura thread Joe started?" should be "whatever Joe titled it." After all his name appears directly under the title anyway.
     
  10. joe sackey

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    #110 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    So a PROLIFERATION of multiple threads about essentially the same thing is a good thing, but lengthy titles isnt?

    Jeez...
     
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    #111 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    THANK YOU...
     
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    #112 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    call a spade a spade.
     
  13. gday

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    #113 gday, Nov 19, 2008
    Expecting a noob to know who the *uck Joe is re "Joe's Miura thread" vs something more inviting like "Miura, The Original Supercar" seems nutty to me. Appears more like a clique.

    -mick
     
  14. Simon^2

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    #114 Simon^2, Nov 19, 2008
    so lets summarize:

    subscribed and nosubscibed users in favor of leaving the thread titles alone unless violate TOS: unanimous
     
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    #115 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    ahh, I finally understand your disconnect and why you are supporting nonsense so much. you just simply don't understand the taxonomy of a good internet forum.

    A Miura thread title will gain the interest of someone looking for anything Miura, each and every post to this master thread will require users to visit the thread and sort through the posts for what interests them. At some point they will go to this master thread and find many posts don't interest them and they will ignore it. Maybe that's a reason the percentages on even the 2nd most active user on your threads are so low?

    The entire concept of taxonomy with a good internet forum is efficiency for both the poster and reader. My examples of Miura topics that deserve their own thread will allow all to get to the point easier if not in some master thread. The thread title isn't general, on quick glance it tells you "Pictures of black Miuras". The thread originator will get most responses that apply only to what they intend and others that act as consumers and suppliers to the thread are efficiently participating as well.

    Tell me why a master Miura thread is a good thing? I already agree that a master Joe's Miura thread is a good thing.
     
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    #116 dm_n_stuff, Nov 19, 2008
    I won't argue that point, as it does have some merit.

    but that's not really what I'm talking about with my point about noobs.

    My point is, if it ain't hospitable in here, new folks aren't gonna stay. If you all want to continue to discuss the same old stuff with the same old folks, then driving out the new guys will do that. But that is not what this site is about.

    Dave
     
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    #117 rob lay, Nov 19, 2008
    that's the point, new users or any users for that matter shouldn't be invited into what is a general master Miura thread. there should only be Joe's Miura thread and then individual Miura threads. Not much reason for creating threads and forums otherwise. FerrariChat would be about 100 master threads. You can disagree with me, but I find that a mess and very inefficient. System would be running much slower too as everyone loaded from a few threads, including content they weren't interested in, and the system strain from additional searches to narrow down which posts in a master thread were relevant vs. a short 20 post thread.
     
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    #118 KENCO, Nov 19, 2008
    +1
     
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    #119 Skyler, Nov 19, 2008
    Many apologies. I throught I read "joke" instead of "joe" in your original post.

    Cheers.

    P.s, I'm here because I like the site and share a passion for the cars...
     
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    #120 2NA, Nov 19, 2008
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    Rob,

    It appears that you are trying to promote multiple Miura threads in an effort to make "surfing" more feasible. This is not a bad thing.

    It is a mystery to me (and most of us) what that has to do with shortened titles (how many times does it take to make the point that "Sharpie" was an important word, the thread doesn't make sense without it).

    Break the forum into sub-categories, leave it the same, or just delete the whole thing it's yours to piss away if you want.

    The drama that this forum is infamous for was pretty much non-existent until this crap started. I suspect that none of this vitriole would be here if things had been left as is (or at least a plan for forum improvement had been announced and discussed).

    I sense a "chilling effect" from having a persons writing arbitrairily edited without any known rules being violated.
     
  21. Simon^2

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    #121 Simon^2, Nov 19, 2008
    Agreed. But... a week later and voila this is now the reason... sure. and the reason this hasn't been mention in 200+ posts?

    It has nothing to do with it. this has been questioned numerous times and completely ignored because it is indefensible. it was done because they could. that's it.

    remember joe also had his words in the body of a post changed to alter the meaning... and the purpose of that was???

    all this is revisionist BS and face saving...
     
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    #122 dbaker89, Nov 19, 2008
    Simon is right on the money.

    As much as I respect this forum and Rob, he is wrong here.
     
  23. joe sackey

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    #123 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    Rob lets not turn this around. My objection was, and is, that thread content including titles should not be changed unless there is an infringement of the rules. Period.

    That premise has 100% support among posters as documented in this thread.The people have spoken. You can choose to be wise and listen to your people, or not. Its your party, and you can kick us all out if you like.

    This reminds me of a well-known mechanic who ran his shop in a similar manner. Nobody goes there anymore...
     
  24. ApexOversteer

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    #124 ApexOversteer, Nov 19, 2008
    Then I'm going to ask this again.

    Why wasn't the 350/400GT thread retitled as "Fred's 350/400GT Thread". Out of 230+ posts, Fred has 85+ posts and Marcello has 50+ posts.

    Does anyone else see how this discrepency might be a tiny part of why some folks think there are personal, ulterior motives to these changes?

    (I'm not saying there are personal, ulterior motives, I'm simply showing a reason why people might think that, given the reasoning that has been given to us for the changes)
     
  25. joe sackey

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    #125 joe sackey, Nov 19, 2008
    +1.

    Speaks volumes of the place...
     
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