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Race, performance & street cars, engines, engine parts, trailers for sale lots of miscellaneous cars/parts here

Try the various historic/vintage racing series websites/forums too

good luck! I'd love to have one as well.

 

I think there's some running in AIX or whatever the unlimited class is.

they may be SCCA GT1 eligible too.

or vintage, time attack, or just destroy the sound limit at a track day

 

I've been with Norm Benning Racing since 2009 as one of the many things I do, Norm has I think three ARCA race cars he was telling me he wanted to sell, you could get one of those fairly cheap, along with every thing you need, fuel cans, extra rims extra parts, ect. If Tony Stewart doesn't put Norms Eldora Race truck in his museum, he has one of those for sale, Camping World Truck series Chevy, needs work after a two lap long wreck with Clay Greenfield and an outside wall but fixable! Also he has a couple cup cars he's talked about selling. Engines can be expensive, depends on how fast you want to go! You can put your own in of course, Norm has different engines some need rebuilt, I don't know what new cup engines run, but our SB2 engines are about $75, 000 and a RO7 goes for $125,000. You could put in a ARCA engine cheap and have fun. If you want I can get pics and some prices , these are in Pa.

 

Watch the auctions, the real auctions not B-J.

On more occasions than may be remembered, old NASCAR cars will go across the blocks
with hardly a bid and the auctioneer will go as low as $20K just to get the bidding going. The
rare exception might be a car that has won a major race by a major driver.

Friends have had NASCAR cars. It's not so much the cost to buy but what it costs hourly to
operate as with most racing cars. Count on burning through the gas and have a plenty of back
up tires as these dinosaurs eat tires especially on tricky road courses.

BHW

 

best bang for the buck for tracking fun... at bargain prices...race ready with 850hp

plenty of purpose built road race cars looking for a home... some are brokered, while calling a team directly can turn up deals, some cars with only a race or two as "better" cars are being developed for the next race... the big demand is for the oval track cars ( keeping their prices high ), leaving the road cars looking for a home... it's been a good secret

 

Rob, those running Miatas and Boxsters are spending more... don't take my word, do a little research for yourself, you will not believe what you find out... you can even work a deal to maintain the car between races... even if you wind up breaking it, the cost is minimal compared to what others are paying

 

...if you say so...

 

I suspect Rob is right on Miata vs. retired NASCAR. But answer his questions as to tires, brakes, engine life and rebuild cost and so on. I can say that for my Turbo Miata track car (sort of a SM with turbocharger) a set of R888 (can be used wet or dry) is about $700, brakes are under $120 and axle set, rotors about $40 each, engines so far have been boneyard specials that tend to last well over 100 hours each and cost about $750, transmissions last even longer and cost about the same. I get probably 6 track hours out of a set of tires and 10 or so on front brake pads. And the car is fast, I can promise you it will run with a NASCAR on most any track, unless you have a real Cup engine and that will demolish any reasonable budget as those things have to cost over $50K.

Now NASCARs sound great, look cool, but I highly doubt they are as reliable and cheap to operate as my Turbo Miata. But come on out to MotorSport Ranch with a NASCAR as my guest and see for yourself.

 

Never raced a mazda so I don't know anything about cost to run one of those but I am on a NASCAR team and can say our tires run around $2500 a set, RO7 engine $125,000, transmission $6, 800, front and rear pieces $3200, bla bla bla. A lot of our parts look like stuff you can get from Napa except they have been approved by NASCAR and marked up. There's a reason teams tell sponsors they need $25mil a year! I was told today we have 7 race cars for sale.

 

These costs can go up substantially if you are trying to build a miata that can run up front in a national SCCA venue. It really depends on what you are trying to do with the car. I run a miata and short track ovals with a Super Truck and the costs are relatively comparable.

If you are just doing track days and want to improve race craft with data etc go with the miata. You will become a better driver. If you are just looking for something super powerful and fun go with the NASCAR. In the right hands these cars/trucks can be fast, just look at the times from the Crafstman truck race at Watkins Glenn.

Check out Rousch Parts in Mooresville, NC they have several retired chasis and can find you whatever you want. A fresh/good road course car (K&N/ARCA) is typically going to start in the mid thirties depending on spares etc.

http://www.roushyatesparts.com/

 

Just noticed the 850 hp reference. Bwahahahahaha! I might believe a mild small block with 450 hp can be run cheaply, but a 850 hp mill is going to cost at least $50k and last under 20 hours before a refresh.

 

Good luck with your search and enjoy whatever you end up in. I would definitely talk with Rousch (since you are in NC) and encourage you to visit some of the V8 series races:

V8 Stock Car Road Racing Series

These guys can surely give you a very accurate idea of what the costs involved with these cars are.

 

There's a column in the current issue of Road & Track that might be of interest. I don't see it on their site yet so here's a cell pic and converted to PDF.
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