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Old 03-16-2017, 10:49 AM
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Hagerty's "teach a kid to drive a manual" events

No affiliation, I just think this is a great idea. Too bad they are not doing any near me.

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Old 03-16-2017, 11:37 AM
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My graphic designer has a girl who just went to Prague to study for 6 months. Before she left she had to go to a driving school to learn to drive a MANUAL because they don't have automatic cars there for the students to use.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:50 AM
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I need to find something like this for people up to 30. I have two younger employees in our group that cannot use the company truck, because they don't know how to drive a stick.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:03 PM
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I've been pretty vocal about this recently. I had to get another car because my Mini lease ran out. My first mini was a stick. The second was an auto and I didn't like it (boring). I eventually got a new Mini but with a stick again (hard to find one!)

Well, I drive the stick much differently than the auto. I find that I drive it harder because the idiotic auto doesn't shift up all the time to save fuel. I keep the revs up longer and accelerate harder, as well as go into the corners more aggressively instead of "lumbering along".

Manuals make you drive differently than autos. Its just human nature.
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I wouldn't let a student drive some of those classic cars if I owned them. Then need to learn on a beater pickup truck or worn out Chevy.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:15 PM
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I wouldn't let a student drive some of those classic cars if I owned them. Then need to learn on a beater pickup truck or worn out Chevy.
I suppose it might cost you some clutch wear, but the excitement the kids would feel driving a classic and especially a Ferrari would be a memory they would keep forever.

I wouldn't mind being part of those kinds of memories.

Also, it is difficult, if not impossible to find a manual transmission pickup or Chevy in the US these days. That is why they ask us to bring our cars. Also, the kids are more engaged because they are driving a classic.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:40 PM
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My oldest will be learning to drive in a few years. I'll probably teach her on my BMW 2002, because it's so easy to swap out the clutch. But - she's not going to be allowed to drive unless she learns on a manual.

I remember my Dad saying "You drive this, you can drive anything". And, he's correct. And that's the life skill I want my kids to have.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:58 AM
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I remember my Dad saying "You drive this, you can drive anything". And, he's correct. And that's the life skill I want my kids to have.
I make my kids learn manual also but it's not really a skill they need. Not because of automatics but rather self driving cars. In another few years kids won't even learn to drive at all!
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Old 03-18-2017, 02:16 PM
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I learned on an autobox but had to learn to drive a manual because I had to drive my Dad's work truck -- a Ford Econoline van.

3 speed gearbox on the column! The throw was like a foot each way. Remember when you had to lift the gearshift UP to go into first!

Those where the days!

My first car purchase was a used MGB. It seemed like something out of the future compared to that Ford. Next came an Alfa Spider. That was heaven.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:41 PM
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Well, I drive the stick much differently than the auto. I find that I drive it harder because the idiotic auto doesn't shift up all the time to save fuel. I keep the revs up longer and accelerate harder, as well as go into the corners more aggressively instead of "lumbering along".

Manuals make you drive differently than autos. Its just human nature.
I agree completely.
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This is outstanding. I hope they have it on the east coast when my oldest is learning in two years!
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Old 03-19-2017, 02:25 AM
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I cannot encourage learning to drive a manual box enough. As a life skill and it makes driving much more involving. I'm on holidays in Tasmainia Australia, some of the best roads and I hired a Hyundai 1.4 litre 6 speed manual and as basic as it is great fun working such a little car along on twisty roads.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:38 PM
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I make my kids learn manual also but it's not really a skill they need. Not because of automatics but rather self driving cars. In another few years kids won't even learn to drive at all!
You are so right.

When I drive a manual, I think I also concentrate on the road/car better. But, that's probably just me. My wife also drives a manual, and this is a conversation we had once:

Wife: The light with the square and a plus/minus just came on. Is that bad?
Me: Yes - your alternator is dead. Take it to the shop.
Wife: I'm busy today. Can I take it Friday?
Me: Sure - if you want to push it. If you want to drive it to the shop, you need to take it right f-ing now.
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I like the idea. I wonder how this could be applied to VR and a racing simulator.
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We bought our 16 year old daughter a new Kia Soul with a manual about a year and a half ago.....that little Soul took alot of abuse at first with stalling, improper footwork etc....now they are the best of friends.

Can't do any of that idiotic texting with a proper transmision.
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Can't do any of that idiotic texting with a proper transmision.
THIS!

My son came home from college for Spring Break and brought 2 friends with him. He had to drive the whole way (9 hours) because neither of his friends can drive a stick. (2015 Honda Accord Sport, they're still made!)
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:48 PM
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Can't do any of that idiotic texting with a proper transmision.
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I suppose it might cost you some clutch wear, but the excitement the kids would feel driving a classic and especially a Ferrari would be a memory they would keep forever.

I wouldn't mind being part of those kinds of memories.

Also, it is difficult, if not impossible to find a manual transmission pickup or Chevy in the US these days. That is why they ask us to bring our cars. Also, the kids are more engaged because they are driving a classic.
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The smaller Chevys (Cruze, Sonic, Spark, etc) offer manuals, and obviously their sports cars (Camaro and Corvette) offer three pedals as well. They do offer a 6MT in the Colorado (and platform twin GMC Canyon), but only on the very base 2WD model. You can still get a decently-equipped truck with 4WD and a manual if you look at the Nissan Frontier and Toyota Tacoma though. No half-ton trucks are offered with sticks anymore, though curiously Ram offers the lower trim levels of its 2500 and even 3500 trucks with six speed manuals.

A Miata would be a better car to learn to drive a manual in than a classic Ferrari. It would take some time to go through the gears smoothly due to how close the first couple of gears are, but in my (brief) recent drive of a first-gen 5MT model, it was very easy to get used to, and I think it would be easier to learn in than some of the other manual cars I've driven. The Jeep Wrangler would also be a good truck to learn how to drive a manual in, especially because so many young people seem to like it.

Personally I think that manual drivers are better drivers because shifting through the gears keeps them involved in the driving experience, which in turn keeps them focused on actually driving instead of doing other things.
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:35 PM
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This is great! Clutches are expensive. So nice of these owners to sacrifice theirs for our children. I learned on my mother's Mazda station wagon. No way my daughter was going to learn on my Ferrari or my Lotus.
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:41 PM
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This is great! Clutches are expensive. So nice of these owners to sacrifice theirs for our children. I learned on my mother's Mazda station wagon. No way my daughter was going to learn on my Ferrari or my Lotus.
Max is turning 16 this fall...

I need to find a low powered rental with stick shift...lol

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