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Old 09-28-2016, 10:32 AM
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Some interesting cars coming up at RM Sotheby's "Duemila Ruote" auction in Milan

Announcing Duemila Ruote Milan, Italy 25-27 November 2016

The whole collection was owned by Umberto Compiano of Treviso, owner of a group of companies ("Vigilanza Compiano") in the cash and valuables transport business. Unfortunately he borrowed millions of Euros from one or several bank(s) for his business, but actually used the money to compile this amazing collection of toys... The auction is now held by court order, it's a bankruptcy sale.

The Ferrari included in the sale are:

250 GT Coupé Pininfarina #1365GT (fitted with non matching engine #1589GT), silvergrey metallic, abandoned restoration project

250 GTE #3983GT, abandoned restoration project, chassis and bodywork only, minus mechanical components

275 GTB/6C Longnose Alloy #08311, red/black

365 GTC #11981, medium metallic blue/beige (apparently this car had been owned in the early 1970s by one of Compiano's relatives), restored

365 GTB/4 Daytona (plexiglass) #12905, rosso Dino/black

Dino 246 GT #04924, silvergrey/black vinyl, sensationally original, with complete tools and books

308 GTB Vetroresina #19267, red/beige, restored

512 BB #22401, red w/Boxer trim/beige, restored

F40 #91464 (ex-German car)

F355 spider #106479, giallo Modena/blu scuro

550 Barchetta Pininfarina #124291, giallo Modena/charcoal (ex-French car)

575M Maranello F1 #129840, Grigio Titanio/charcoal

575M Maranello #132139, Blu Sebring/cuoio (rare manual gearbox example)

Superamerica F1 #145394, Blu Le Mans/beige

599 GTB Fiorano #152969, Grigio Silverstone/beige (rare manual gearbox example)

Everything will be sold at no reserve.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:07 AM
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Very interesting. I wonder what shape the majority of the cars are in. Here are the lots: http://www.rmsothebys.com/tv16/duemila-ruote/lots/

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Old 09-28-2016, 11:17 AM
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Very interesting. I wonder what shape the majority of the cars are in.
The majority should be in nice condition, but all with the usual storage damages. Compiano's companies went bankrupt in 2014, so the cars have been repossessed two years ago already and spent the time since in storage.

A friend of mine was told that the documents and books of many were missing, this would be a major issue, especially regarding the modern cars.
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Announcing Duemila Ruote Milan, Italy 25-27 November 2016

The whole collection was owned by Umberto Compiano of Treviso, owner of a group of companies ("Vigilanza Compiano") in the cash and valuables transport business. Unfortunately he borrowed millions of Euros from one or several bank(s) for his business, but actually used the money to compile this amazing collection of toys... The auction is now held by court order, it's a bankruptcy sale.

The Ferrari included in the sale are:

250 GT Coupé Pininfarina #1365GT (fitted with non matching engine #1589GT), silvergrey metallic, abandoned restoration project

250 GTE #3983GT, abandoned restoration project, chassis and bodywork only, minus mechanical components

275 GTB/6C Longnose Alloy #08311, red/black

365 GTC #11981, medium metallic blue/beige (apparently this car had been owned in the early 1970s by one of Compiano's relatives), restored

365 GTB/4 Daytona (plexiglass) #12905, rosso Dino/black

Dino 246 GT #04924, silvergrey/black vinyl, sensationally original, with complete tools and books

308 GTB Vetroresina #19267, red/beige, restored

512 BB #22401, red w/Boxer trim/beige, restored

F40 #91464 (ex-German car)

F355 spider #106479, giallo Modena/blu scuro

550 Barchetta Pininfarina #124291, giallo Modena/charcoal (ex-French car)

575M Maranello F1 #129840, Grigio Titanio/charcoal

575M Maranello #132139, Blu Sebring/cuoio (rare manual gearbox example)

Superamerica F1 #145394, Blu Le Mans/beige

599 GTB Fiorano #152969, Grigio Silverstone/beige (rare manual gearbox example)

Everything will be sold at no reserve.
The collection includes a total of 45 Ferraris, plus many many other cars as well. All were confiscated by the Italian Guardia di Finanza on 21 October 2013.

Marcel Massini
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:57 AM
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Announcing Duemila Ruote Milan, Italy 25-27 November 2016

The whole collection was owned by Umberto Compiano of Treviso, owner of a group of companies ("Vigilanza Compiano") in the cash and valuables transport business. Unfortunately he borrowed millions of Euros from one or several bank(s) for his business, but actually used the money to compile this amazing collection of toys... The auction is now held by court order, it's a bankruptcy sale.

The Ferrari included in the sale are:

250 GT Coupé Pininfarina #1365GT (fitted with non matching engine #1589GT), silvergrey metallic, abandoned restoration project

250 GTE #3983GT, abandoned restoration project, chassis and bodywork only, minus mechanical components

275 GTB/6C Longnose Alloy #08311, red/black

365 GTC #11981, medium metallic blue/beige (apparently this car had been owned in the early 1970s by one of Compiano's relatives), restored

365 GTB/4 Daytona (plexiglass) #12905, rosso Dino/black

Dino 246 GT #04924, silvergrey/black vinyl, sensationally original, with complete tools and books

308 GTB Vetroresina #19267, red/beige, restored

512 BB #22401, red w/Boxer trim/beige, restored

F40 #91464 (ex-German car)

F355 spider #106479, giallo Modena/blu scuro

550 Barchetta Pininfarina #124291, giallo Modena/charcoal (ex-French car)

575M Maranello F1 #129840, Grigio Titanio/charcoal

575M Maranello #132139, Blu Sebring/cuoio (rare manual gearbox example)

Superamerica F1 #145394, Blu Le Mans/beige

599 GTB Fiorano #152969, Grigio Silverstone/beige (rare manual gearbox example)

Everything will be sold at no reserve.
The 275 GTB s/n 08311 is a very interesting car, 6C with alloy body and very early(1st) torque tube. From the photographs it appears that it has a 3C set-up now.
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The 275 GTB s/n 08311 is a very interesting car, 6C with alloy body and very early(1st) torque tube. From the photographs it appears that it has a 3C set-up now.
6 carb setup as new from the Factory. Normally you don't see the cover over the carbs, but I'm told there are 6 under there.

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The collection includes a total of 45 Ferraris, plus many many other cars as well. All were confiscated by the Italian Guardia di Finanza on 21 October 2013.

Marcel Massini
So assuming not all cars are on the RM site yet?
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Very interesting. I wonder what shape the majority of the cars are in. Here are the lots: View Lots | Classic Car Auctions | RM Sotheby's

Some additional images of the collection from EVO.
Lancia Ferrari LC2 is super cool but pretty sure it isn't original.... Will be fascinating to see the full lot list
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Lancia Ferrari LC2 is super cool but pretty sure it isn't original.... Will be fascinating to see the full lot list
This would be a monster auction (450 cars and a total of about 700 lots once you include boats, motorcycles and such). How does it compare to the Mecum mega auctions? If they spend an average of 2 minutes per lot (seems very rushed to me given that there are some very high value stuff) and take no breaks then they'd need 23+ solid hours...
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So assuming not all cars are on the RM site yet?
I think all of the cars are now on the site but the automobilia, motorcylces, and boats are not up yet.
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I think all of the cars are now on the site but the automobilia, motorcylces, and boats are not up yet.
Yeah, there are many more cars now on the site compared to last night but probably not quite the 430+ that they announced they'd have...
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Wow , thought quite a lot of Ferrari's..then scrolled down to the Jag's..and then Porsche's..amazing.
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There are cool cars (especially if the racing cars turn out to be original) but there is a lot of generic, uninspiring stuff too. The guy must have been somewhat of an automotive hoarder...
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This would be a monster auction (450 cars and a total of about 700 lots once you include boats, motorcycles and such). How does it compare to the Mecum mega auctions? If they spend an average of 2 minutes per lot (seems very rushed to me given that there are some very high value stuff) and take no breaks then they'd need 23+ solid hours...
Auction to be held over three days and like Mecum will feature a few big name classics and a lot of what I can only term "used cars". Perhaps like Mecum the cars will be sold without reserve which will provide a full test of the market BUT apart from the 275 and maybe a couple of other rare cars like the Lancia there isn't much that isn't readily available on the secondary market. In 2016 most buyers must be comparing prices to ensure they aren't overpaying...... You would be crazy to not do that.
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Auction to be held over three days and like Mecum will feature a few big name classics and a lot of what I can only term "used cars". Perhaps like Mecum the cars will be sold without reserve which will provide a full test of the market BUT apart from the 275 and maybe a couple of other rare cars like the Lancia there isn't much that isn't readily available on the secondary market. In 2016 most buyers must be comparing prices to ensure they aren't overpaying...... You would be crazy to not do that.
All to be sold by court order and I understand all at no reserve.

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1589gt engine stamp on 250 gt pf coupe

The 250 pf coupe has a non-matching engine 1589gt. It seems to me that the stamp is not the usual stamp seen on other engines. Am I correct ? Sorry but picture can only been seen on Timmy's link of original RM Sotheby's "Duemila Ruote"
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I have personally seen all of the cars, there are some real gems in the collection and also lesser cars, but what can you expect in such a large collection.
I have seen many, many things which I would like to own, like alfa-engined boats, motorbikes and even bicycles.
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Lancia Ferrari LC2 is super cool but pretty sure it isn't original.... Will be fascinating to see the full lot list
It is original and comes with many extra bodyparts.
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It is original and comes with many extra bodyparts.
Bodywork is not like the other LC2s in my eyes, although I could be wrong
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All the lots are online. That guy was crazy. He bought cars like i buy hotwheels for my son.
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