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Old 11-02-2008, 08:40 PM
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My Father Used To Own Racing Ferraris

Take a look at this collection which he (of course) sold too soon:

http://www.cliffreuter.com/ferrari.htm

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Wow - amazing! some VERY special Ferrari's in that group, great taste! My favorite Ferrari car era by far.
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Let's see- $8400 for a 250GTO in 1970. In 1971 my tuition at Stanford was $2700, so the car was about 3 times that. For the 2007-8 academic year tuition at Stanford is $34,800, so 3 times that is like $100K.

What kind of 8 year old Ferrari will $100K get you today?
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Let's see- $8400 for a 250GTO in 1970. In 1971 my tuition at Stanford was $2700, so the car was about 3 times that. For the 2007-8 academic year tuition at Stanford is $34,800, so 3 times that is like $100K.

What kind of 8 year old Ferrari will $100K get you today?
A 550 Maranello; maybe an optionless, Euro, converted 360 Modena.


Thanks for the link, Cliff. Your father owned some amazing cars.
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Thanks for posting Cliff.

I spent a good bit of time last week browsing through all the Bandini's, Abarth's etc., quite the eye opener!
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Take a look at this collection which he (of course) sold too soon:

http://www.cliffreuter.com/ferrari.htm

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Thanks for posting Cliff. Your dad had perfect taste! Too bad he did nok keep some...

Cheers.
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By the way, Both Cavallino and Hemmings have nice write ups on the rare "330 GTO" 3765SA... Please find below the links...

Hemmings: http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/..._feature1.html

Cavallino: http://www.cavallino.com/articles/3765article.html

Enjoy the interesting reads...

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I hade no idea that this level of significant early Ferraris had called St. Louis their home. Looks like your did was the local Ed Niles for a while.

So how many of these did you sneak out with when the family wasn't looking (should we say not in hearing distance)?

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:29 PM
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I hade no idea that this level of significant early Ferraris had called St. Louis their home. Looks like your did was the local Ed Niles for a while.

So how many of these did you sneak out with when the family wasn't looking (should we say not in hearing distance)?

Jeff

The only other real collector/racer I know of was Dave Biggs who's barn/garage famously burned down
in Clarksville Missouri.

I was too young to drive any of the ferraris, but did drive his 1955 Porsche Spyder around Gateway
Raceway (with his blessing) before they made it into a real track.

He also had other Porsche racing cars as well as Maseratis and more. If anyone is interested in seeing them
click on the link below:

http://www.cliffreuter.com/Dad's%20classic%20cars.htm
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I'm nominating this one for post of the month.

Thanks for sharing.
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The only other real collector/racer I know of was Dave Biggs who's barn/garage famously burned down
in Clarksville Missouri.

I was too young to drive any of the ferraris, but did drive his 1955 Porsche Spyder around Gateway
Raceway (with his blessing) before they made it into a real track.

He also had other Porsche racing cars as well as Maseratis and more. If anyone is interested in seeing them
click on the link below:

http://www.cliffreuter.com/Dad's%20classic%20cars.htm
If you've never been, you owe yourself a trip to Chuck Haines' Can Am Cars just west of town.
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By the way, Both Cavallino and Hemmings have nice write ups on the rare "330 GTO" 3765SA... Please find below the links...

Hemmings: http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/..._feature1.html

Cavallino: http://www.cavallino.com/articles/3765article.html

Enjoy the interesting reads...

Cheers.
Those are great articles but we differ with "330 GTO 3765SA". This car was a homologated 250 GTO
and it was stamped 3765 with no SA (Super America). It has the SAME chassis/frame as any
other GTO. For some reason people think it has a 330 SA frame and we are here to say, NO!

Anyone have any insight on this?
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It's things like this that keep me coming back to Fchat. Thank you for posting that up. What a wonderful experience. Reminds me of growing up near Paul Pappalardo's collection.

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Those are great articles but we differ with "330 GTO 3765SA". This car was a homologated 250 GTO
and it was stamped 3765 with no SA (Super America). It has the SAME chassis/frame as any
other GTO. For some reason people think it has a 330 SA frame and we are here to say, NO!

Anyone have any insight on this?
According to the Cavallino article, 3765's chassis is unique and bears the type 538/566. My understanding was that it didn't acquire the 3-liter block (0796) until 1963 when then in the hands of- Cavallino lists the owner as Timavo, but I thought his name was Timavo P. Ferraro. Then Tossi, then you guys. I was able to spend time in and around 3765 before and after restoration. What a fantastic car.
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According to the Cavallino article, 3765's chassis is unique and bears the type 538/566. My understanding was that it didn't acquire the 3-liter block (0796) until 1963 when then in the hands of- Cavallino lists the owner as Timavo, but I thought his name was Timavo P. Ferraro. Then Tossi, then you guys. I was able to spend time in and around 3765 before and after restoration. What a fantastic car.
Barchetta.cc has it listed as Pietro Ferraro, Cartiera del Timavo SpA, I - alias "Montin"

Then: Ferdinando Latteri, I

Then Tossi (Mario)

Then us

They list it as 3765LM take a look:

http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All....5GT.250GTO.htm

We restored the car (with an engine rebuild by my Dad) and he says the chassis was
the same as any other GTO he'd ever seen.

Did you see the car while with its current owner, Jaeger??

PS He thought it was only hitting on 11 cylinders after the rebuild!!
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Old 11-06-2008, 01:46 AM
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I'm nominating this one for post of the month.

Thanks for sharing.

Tremendous!!! Thank You for enriching our knowledge of these rolling treasures! What memories and joys you have of your Father, and his passion for Ferrari, Maserati, Porsche, etc.

Ciao...Paolo
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Some photos of 3765... (copyrights on photo or unknown)

Le Mans 1962 Parkes/Bandini #7 (DNF: Overheating, probably because of the excursion in the sand...)
Targa Florio 1965 Latteri/Capuano (with 3 litre engine) #114 (DNF)
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My understanding was that it didn't acquire the 3-liter block (0796) until 1963 when then in the hands of- Cavallino lists the owner as Timavo, but I thought his name was Timavo P. Ferraro. Then Tossi, then you guys. I was able to spend time in and around 3765 before and after restoration. What a fantastic car.
I have no exact docs, but it is possible that the 3-litre was installed as late as for the 1965 season for Ferdinando Latteri. Ferrari turned it back to factory in 11/63, I believe. Best wishes, Kare
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I have no exact docs, but it is possible that the 3-litre was installed as late as for the 1965 season for Ferdinando Latteri. Ferrari turned it back to factory in 11/63, I believe. Best wishes, Kare
I am 100% sure 3765 was raced in 65 Targa Florio with a 3 litre engine, therefore the swap was done before may 65, probably sometimes in 1964 (according to Cavallino and Barchetta). If you look at the 65 Targa Florio pics, you see that the bonnet does not have the big hump clearance for the larger engine, but looks more like a 250 GTO bonnet, except of course for the crude air intake (with single flap) at the front...
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A 550 Maranello
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