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Old 11-01-2013, 06:37 AM
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yes , google translate clearly not up to it.

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Old 11-01-2013, 09:53 AM
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1957 410 Scaglietti , Ferrari - Boano SuperAmerica ...
# S / n 0671 SA ( brown ) and # S / n 0579 GT ( red ) = this is the same Ferrari twice authenticated , false (red ) is true , but stolen and hidden in false 330GT .. . , real ( brown ) is "official" but false and was built from scratch from almost nothing!

Ferrari # S / n 0671 SA ( brown ) is a true false Labelled by Ferrari , it's a scam high level ... a Ferrari that barrel , the world is happily not as rife that an Afghan field of anti -personnel mines ...

Especially as it has also , like all of the undeniable contribution of a proper unspeakable history, where an epileptic engineer gives way to a hysterical designer in various melodramatic differences before a mafia steals the put in play and it is supposedly found ... to be built (not yet rebuilt and restored less ) by the Ferrari factory ... thenceforth complicit in this fraud !

All this , while the real (red ), which was stolen in 1970 in the U.S., is sold shortly after Turin and disguised as 330GT " Boano " to be sold in any normalcy France journo with the applause of accomplices !

It's too complicated ? You catch a headache ? You doubt it? You want a chocolate bar ?
I summarize : The Ferrari # S / n 0579 GT ( red ) is the real # S / n 0671 SA but disguised as false 330GT " Boano " ... both exist in the open.

It is true that the value , but it sells in secret like all stolen cars , because it's a stolen car grafted chassis number of a wreck ... 330GT , while c ' is false rebuilt from nothing and decked the chassis number of the stolen car that was sold almost two million because it was " officially " by Enzo Ferrari at the request of a featured presenter and multi - millionaire American TV, the level and style of Drucker !

You begin to understand ? The light bulb went on in your head? Yes ? So keep reading , you leave sick of this story whores and crooks who deserve to be adored ... no , the Ferrari world is **** and it's time to react !

Look side, with the 1957 410 Scaglietti , Ferrari SuperAmerica - Boano , compared to the 1956 version by Ghia , presented in the previous article (1956 Ferrari 410 SuperAmerica Ghia - Wilke ... ), the style would tend to give in a roaring sobriety, occasionally shaken by false light fittings risky , such as fins inspired by Cadillac 's the same years ( sic) until the sensual relationship driving the car to do further .

No doubt (though ! ) Is a Ferrari ( yes, really! ) With a Mexican-American parentage, whose evidence is emerging in the incredible highlights of his design (after one hour if you want to see everything , you will not be at the end ), which allow all educated people ( sic) to let their joy at the whim of a great burst of non- forced laugh .

Enzo Ferrari was not a man to neglect the U.S. dollar ... in the 1950s ... " He Commandatore " ... sets up a dedicated special orders to the United States , with heavy cut and creaking , with specific technical characteristics division ...

The bodies were designed by Pininfarina , Ghia , and Scaglietti Boano ( and others) in order to attract mountains of dollars ... the Ferrari America and SuperAmerica were born ... and in 1951 , the first Ferrari after the new department is the 340 America .

In 1956, the 410 SuperAmerica took over from the 375 America , it is the most expensive Ferrari market , but also the ugliest ... America is swoon before this thing seems to have been designed by a Texan cowboy who worked for the establishment of procedures for WheelsFargo Cy ... but , boosted by ambient libidinous villainy , Enzo imagine three main versions to satisfy the wishes of the rich American customers.

At the Paris Motor Show in October 1955 , Ferrari introduced the bare chassis of the future mother , but finally Brussels in January 1956 which hosts the " accomplished " presentation of the 410 SuperAmerica ...

Jacques Swaters , the concessionaire Belgian ( once ) brand , it rejoices in abstruse about the journo recopy with servility : " Each model is personalized and unique, the production is done in dribs and drabs , a copy is assembled by month , the first round of the GT will be produced only 10 copies , Pininfarina draw lines almost all these super- sports , Ghia only charge three copies " ... and blah blah blah ... and blah blah blah ...

In 1956 Pininfarina Ferrari 410 Superfast has built a single copy on the basis of the 410 SuperAmerica , it is the first to bear the name Superfast ( it makes us look good ) ... and a year later ( in 1957 for those of you who are struggling with the additions due to non mentionable addictions ) , another round of cut crosses the Atlantic Ocean : the second round of the 410 SuperAmerica !

These devices have a shorter wheelbase and a few more horses under the hood ( it makes you beautiful one second leg) ... , the Italian-American end its declination in 1957 with an engine developing 400 hp block ( where your penis erected as the Leaning Tower shines !) ...

This stunning model tasteless featured in this article is concerned (gag ! ) , Is a customized version of the Ferrari 410 SuperAmerica Series II ... it was commissioned by Dottore Enrico Wax, a loyal customer Ferrari ( a loyal customer is a rich idiot able to buy without counting ) , displaying an almost unhealthy passion Scaglietti ...

According to various credible evidence ( yes, really! ) , Enzo Ferrari had suggested that rather than having a Pininfarina design of the 410 Superamerica , Sergio Scaglietti is both the designer and manufacturer with a copy to all unique.

Curiously, Dottore Enrico Wax is not Texan, but Genovese ( a resident of Genoa, Genovese told in Italian), a wealthy local benefactor ( a man to reduce its taxable profits , gives his money to works that render him largely in black and keep a large part of the remainder to pay their leaders ) , whose company SNC Wax & Vitale , sells very expensive kinds of delicatessen to false and true ... hard for rich , products luxury as Johnny Walker Whisky (ie hyper gag !) ... but it also markets exclusively for Italy : leather Connolly !

For hands- all become very wealthy , Sergio Scaglietti carries on the basis of chassis # S / n 0671 SA , a road car super expensive ... and to justify his work appears with a distinct flavor of the competition : a dramatic fastback roof ... , a pair of anti- shock front flippers ... , side air intakes in the form of speakers ... shark fin grotesque ... and rocker boldly broken ( ahahahahahah ! ), all stainless steel ...

The rest of the car is made of aluminum (very very) light ... and inside instruments Smith (made in British Columbia ) are used instead of the usual counters Veglia Ferraris ... while the car is equipped with twin tanks of 50 liters each ... is a 410 like no other that is missing as flames painted on the sides !

Interestingly , Dr. Enrico Wax who felt ridiculous at the wheel ( ahahahahahah ! ) And could no longer suffer daily mocking jeers ( hehehehehehe ! ) ... Has kept this 410 Scaglietti less than one year before the sale in January 1958 Count Enrico di Portanuova RPA ...

It was directly sent to the Carrozzeria Boano to better re -customize with : a reshaping of the rear fenders and re- painting in dark red to match the body ... , including an enlargement of the wings front with headlight partially re- covered ... adding a hood scoop ... and redesigning the dashboard to put the speedometer and tachometer in front of the driver ...

Pursued by the police ( not dare to drive with this car but terrible for immoral acts that inspire much later Sergio Berlusconi ) , he fled to Switzerland in 1961 , before disappearing in the wild, he sells his beloved 410 Ferrari Scaglietti - Boano - a friend who lives in Texas .

This guy will be strutting on board a few years ... then sold it to Gary Wales in California that sells Stan Sokol in Florida, before an unknown ( perhaps they were many) steals in 1974 ... for the set pieces , chassis, engine, box body (at least this is what we do believe ... but who?) ...

Hunted during the 1980s ( six years later when I look ) by Greg Garrison, an American Thoroughbred complexion who made his fortune through his services as a producer for television, one track each item and managed to recover in 1986 most (according to him ) parts in Italy, Maranelo , at Ferrari (gag !) ... where their identity is confirmed by none other than Enzo Ferrari himself ...

The scandal is potentially enormous at the time Enzo is considered a holy man , the case could bring to light the abhorrent practices (even Jacques Swaters will not be spared thereafter, as well as some big names Ferrari dealerships around the world , with other Ferrari rebuilt and sometimes stolen ... ) ...

In this case, an "arrangement" is found: Greg Garrison " inherits " parts ... The case was still " in the family " ... and this deal is the factory rebuild the car to period specifications, via Sergio Scaglietti and Gaetano Florini the Carrozzeria Sport Auto Bachelli & Villa , located Bastiglia , Modena .

Ferrari agrees , in addition , provide all certificates and documents ensuring its authenticity ence including a registration period ( a duplicate ) ... Gianni Deana and Aldo Silingardi Sport Auto Modena are on their side , tasked with performing any mechanical work , including platelets and Minting ... a little more than two years time will be needed to make reborn from its ashes , that is to say, to build a new 1986 perfect copy of the 410 Scaglietti 1957 !

This is a dirty trick leading a escroqueie a snub to history and a despicable attitude with regard to the idiots in the future will buy this very expensive car like a true 410 1957 ... go nutmeg a real old false new Ferrari with a new chassis # S / n 0671 SA ... is (re) born!

Greg Garrison was a television pioneer in the USA as a producer and director, he has directed nearly 4,000 shows in his career and has received more than a dozen Emmy Award ... he was born in Harvin Ginsburg and began his television career by accident at the age of 22 ...

After his first productions , The Kate Smith Show and Your Show of Shows (CBS 1950) , he continued to produce and direct numerous television specials with Gene Kelly , Fred Astaire, Donald O'Connor and many others, but it is known in the U.S. , it is for having produced and directed the the Dean Martin Show and comedy than an hour with Dom DeLuise as well as shows with Dan Rowan and Dick Martin , Jonathan Winters, the Golddiggers and Marty Feldman .. , he also led in 1960 a famous presidential TV debate between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon.

In his later years Greg Garrison oversaw for Guthy - Renker digital remastering of all the shows for products previously released on DVD ... , marketing included an " informercial " entertaining with clips and interviews with Garrison by host Regis Philbin on his memories production ...

Greg Garrison died of brain cancer March 25, 2005 in Thousand Oak , California , he had a fifty extremely rare Ferrari stored in the second Ranch located in Montana ... his entire collection was sold by Gooding & co ...

Back to 1986 ... , chassis # S / n 0671 SA is reconstructed as if it were the original ... the body is rebuilt new (gag ! ) While aluminum accessories are re- made of stainless steel ... before then polished ...

An old new V12 engine 4963 cm3 Lampredi untouched from the old division of the F1 constructor stocks seen retyped the same number to the engine that powered the 1957 chassis # S / n 0671 SA and installed in a central position before ... while is important because this is the only 410 was bodied by Scaglietti Boano aND ... in the final , this scam should (and will ) bring a max all stakeholders ...

Some time later, the cameras are rolling around them frantically , Enzo Ferrari has only two years to live , Greg Garrison more than 9 years ... but they are , in the year 1986 and still alive salivating their scam as if they had "saved" one of the wonders of the world to the richest specimen of Mankind ...

They are sometimes lost in very murky maze to get better in a hypnotic round or the "discovery" of a gem was believed extinct (it was not ) , becomes a pretext for quite touching statements love ... , where each Ferrariste dominating another , pretends to drop his shell crook and turns spasmodically as a paragon of tenderness with this passion for the Prancing Horse brand finally shared by the mass of fools ...

Even when the drama takes its course , it is in a double climax not really grasping shipped in a manner at least disconcerting , at a cocktail between mafia and gangsta *****es ... raising their glasses in honor of the essential father Enzo ...

An image (now orphaned ) a delightfully contradictory personality , capable of driving petulant macho ... then perfect bastard spouting bull**** filled with words to the disarming simplicity : "Look how beautiful the sun, sea , wind , birds and Ferrari ... breathe life ! " ... a syrupy overflow from a huge need for recognition magnified tiffosi : the quest for a life filled with useless vanity in stooges ...

Do you know the satisfaction that one can experience seeing a first class , incidentally head slaps and unbearable , or an arrogant seducer and covered women, pick up a humiliating setback that service?

That's pretty much what I feel when I meet a Ferrari owner the day his "beautiful" broke down ... or he discovers that he has a fourgué stolen car and makeup . .. or an expert tells him that his old Millésimée was actually (re) built from nothing but new old ... and where I can smile at the sight of his face marked by the peremptory emptiness of his mind full of great feelings, sex, sweat and sun bathing exotic landscapes populated brouzoufs shovel and naked girls (s) .

Since almost always Ferrari is supported by media campaigns mastoc ( infomercials signed by journo more or less unknown ) in the epic , bringing emotions beauffissimes not seen since " Yellow Cruise " ...

It is beloved by some nefarious ex- racers "conceptual and highbrow , pretentious " genre ( girls, seals and cuts tin ) that " merdias " offer us too often, but with a budget as Pharaonic useless and spectacular performances ...

It would make sense that a large number of enthusiasts stupidities friendly take the time to dissect this phenomenal myth, as it is steeped in debilitated Enzo Ferrari , mechanical man proud and fierce , manly and sexy despite the weight of years , the new God and his eyes thinking ...

However, from 1986, the scam told in the article you read maintanant , he vegetated somewhat in the memory of its past glory , surrounded by girls more or less light , a former lover became his confidante and ' henchmen (gag ! ) some noise on the edges , deceiving his boredom by walks , posing on the vain agitation of its competitors a meaningful look ... while the revolt rumbled in the world, drama brewing and ridiculous lurking ...

It is first necessary to do justice to the employees who worked in the souk because it paid better than Fiat ... and whose services contribute to disaster yet fully a brand bloated to the extreme ... that eventually , shambles , was bought by Giovanni Agnelli and encompassed within the Fiat Group ...

But honor where honor , I quote the first employee who replaces current chief Enzo Luca di Montezemolo ... **** that in there to an abysmal level ... and for which one might fear the final assault of a great depression , if it was not receiving a good pôôôv'hère million monthly salary , proof that each has its limits!

As the winner would be a good wag million each month , it can afford to be equal to itself, mind-boggling arrogance and conceit , doing the eulogy of his exceptional powers of non -creator : if can show convincing enough in certain roles may suit his personality, such as presentations in various car shows (there is actually used by Fiat as if his natural charisma was enough to illuminate the world , shouting each of its claims about the supremacy "his" brand) ... must confess , its appearance is the ultimate degree of artistic nullity !

Pompous, stiff , heavy smokers of politico -cultural meditations (it can not help serve hot , his views on life, love , death, the modern world, the price of a kilo of beans ... ) it dark low roof both substance and form .


If we can feast effects failures, the joke was primarily due to an outstanding claim ... as emerges from each presentation, a very special atmosphere , where every moment overwhelmed the audience wonder what that it kindly tell or mean : it brings a result of double effect kind Kiss -Cool to laugh twice : the vision and decryption .

A total lack of rhythm and sense of complete kill all claims in consumer breath pushed the extreme (do not forget to go to the Ferrari shop for your gifts when you have finished this article , though in fact you rather want to go f ... fire) ... a brand whose members are transient admiration for their supposed talent obviously incapable of any decline in the work of Enzo in its generality .. .

This is totally ridiculed by lambda clients, ranging from non-existent and the total people shot , breathtaking arrogance, ugly soul and silliness that take easily and without flinching their rank idiots racing alongside wrestlers of footbaleurs , singers or crooks high-flying , only able to offer Ferrari beyond a certain threshold ... the IRS does not it also wrong , s' hounding this small world of people gamy , with rare delight ( freedom of the press can not be used constantly to brainwash the masses into believing that Ferrari is above the law , it also applies to the review) .

There is no doubt that among the harshest spoiled child leading to the most grotesque results, the Ferrari 410 -Ghia - Boano - SuperAmerica # S / n 0671 SA , figure easily in the forefront ...

Enzo Ferrari one month before his death in August 1988 , acknowledged ruefully its intellectual failure with the 410 series , even describing some great scams based Ferrari doubles and triples ( as there is no small profit , he even wrote a book to exorcise some of his ailments to soul) ...

Until his death, he baited pathetically , for weeks, to defend his work, write up he realized : " Cars that are like him " ... what do you think j ' add to this while # S / n 0671 SA became two years ago ( in 1986) , completely wrong ... and he knew it !

When the self- praise become as grotesque , it is definitely not far from the record books to wankers notorious teenagers retarded followers of the battle of inches, inveterate smokers firecrackers ( substance they call tenderly Shibby ) , the deranged and unwanted offspring of a pipe dream , in a word, idiots ...

At such a point that they become almost endearing with their minds dévarié which still poses questions about the possible existence of a dimensional disruptor : Grail straight from science fiction '50s ... product bastard logic Ferrarresque sufficiently disturbed in its marketing objectives , it has come to sustain what has become over time a genre in itself make the cheapest possible cars stupid gems of pure power psychotronic proposed to rich idlers vain to drug prices ( cocaine is sometimes a lot) !

The droll spring this Ferrari 410 Scaglietti - Boano - 1957 chassis # S / n 0671 SA based on the confrontation between different cultures ... , treated with respect and understanding this kind of concept can lead to amazing results ( cocaine always! ), but as used with disrespect and evil , it is really funny, something of a rare subtlety ...

It's fun, I 'm aware that this product will disrupt a host of crooks and slobs who will tremble with fear and rage at the thought that it might get them into trouble ... a little voice inside nevertheless continues to say: " they were able to do it on purpose ... Oh yes , they were able " ...

But as soon as one is more American than the Americans ... and that we have a fairly substantial budget, you can still use this kind of concept " comedy " for turning out a big cake with only vague pretext for an accumulation of particularly cheesy gimmicks (but probably highly relevant , seen from the land of Uncle Sam ), mainly caused by a lack of knowledge and customs in which no stereotype or no stereotype are forgotten!

Well, the pretext being said, we must remember that viscerally consumerist and absolutely selfless artist , there remained in 1957 Scaglietti ( Boano and will do the same a year later ) , to consult his dictionary of hackneyed clichés to develop an unusual 410 ...

That, in order to achieve an absolutely preposterous result aimed primarily at an audience of wealthy Ferraristi (sky ) but virgins ... to which this Ferrari had to provide the amount of madness reasonably required by their hormonal problems in exchange for a bundle of money ...

I know it is sad , however I challenge anyone watching this car not from a nervous giggle turning soon psychotic yelling to evacuate the consternation caused by this natural stupidity even Lada has never dared to do : In Nomine Patris , Filii and and Sancti Spiritus , Habemus Ferraruaram ...

410 This is a unique and fascinating experience , quite the kind of car that brings to mind dozens of existential questions, the more persistent still remains : "Should I run this story on Facebook and GatsbyOnline at risk that readers respond to these realities they did not suspect , will instead decide to hang himself after burning their mag 's: Exhaust , Sport - Auto, Automobile and other journals in the text oriented , non-objective and totally devoid of humor , unlike Top Gear, a BBC regularly broadcast on Channel - Disvovery ? " ... this writing, if you read this , do not delude yourself too , your ability to suicide learn to make a proper noose ...

Gregg Garrison will not take it to heaven , he died in March 2005 of brain cancer and the car was sold in 2007 by Gooding & Company for U.S. $ 1,320,000 , as well as fifty of his Ferrari collection, the all earning more than $ 40 million to his heirs !

Less than five years later, on 20 January 2012 , at the Biltmore Resort in Phoenix, when his " Arizona Auction Sale" in the middle of 140 cars on display 126 which were sold for a total of 25.6 million dollars, the car is auctioned by RM -Auction for U.S. $ 1,815,000 ... proof that crime pays !

The history of this Ferrari is not over ... I have been a victim of theft of a rare (5 copies made ) LéaFrancis Funcars at a show in Belgium there four years , I ' I quickly realized during the investigation, to get 200,000 euros ( in this case) , thieves are often false bottoms of friends just waiting for the right time to pluck up laughing , even hide their package by trying to blame it ...

So I thought a little further than the Auctioneers ( auction houses ) American Gooding & cy and RM- Auction, as well as so-called expert " sold " to Ferrari , who gave a Walt Disney version of the story this visionary Ferrari Scaglietti - Boano Super America 1957 !

The body of the Ferrari # S / n 0671 SA fly in the USA and in pieces , did not end his life in a lake ... nay ... she returned to Italy and was used on the chassis # S / n 0579 GT 250GT alleged " Boano " !

This body has passed from the U.S. to Italy under the false name of a Mr " Bertone " in Turin (plus the gag is, the more it goes ) that sold in the state to Classic Auto Garage (also Turin ) , which was later coined as the body had been commissioned by a Mr. " Colombo " ( the gag is huge! ) recarrosser for a Ferrari 250 GT " Boano " serious accident in the United States in 1981 ( hilarious but the police did ? ) ... this body is reported as having been made ​​between 1987 and 1988 by former bodybuilders retired artisans (who ? names that ! names! ) ... but without more information (what gag !) ...

Seeing the body " one-off " , Mr RB a French residing at Saint - Raphael on the Cote d'Azur , the current owner ( must be stopped anyway, this is the shame to repeat the story Start a stolen car ) , would by chance noticed that she looked very much (what gag , because it is that one) , a Ferrari single body that belonged to well-known fire Greg Garrison : Ferrari 410 Superamerica # S / n 0671 SA bodied especially by Sergio Scaglietti in 1957 for Dr. Wax ...

In true Sherlock Holmes (what fool ! ) , Here - you will not ... it is investigating , and all his research led him to the famous 410 stolen then supposedly found in 1985 in a piece of farm Oregon where it was used as a tractor ... then allegedly restored at the Ferrari factory and according to the original plans Sergio Scaglietti ...

But he, nothing , nada , he said white as snow , and argues that the assembled body on the same chassis and with the same engine , are reconstructions doubles between 1987 and 1988 made ​​by the same craftsmen who made ​​the original body (which in fact it is precisely ) ...

All that to hide that this is actually an authentic 410 that had been stolen !
What souk ! What a bunch of morons ! And all this is on the web!
How to Whiten a stolen car ? this is the question almost two million dollars!

Imagination has no limits in the circumstances of life!

Mr RB ( really must stop ) clings to his imaginary story , a stupid story that I transcribed : "It seems that at the time , between 1987 and 1988, two bodies" Special " have been built , the one according to the original plans in 1957 which is now officially the Ferrari 410 Superamerica Greg Garrison , which has headlights "rights" as well as " less formal " rear wings " protruding " ... the second , with headlights and fairings the rear wings " round " that was found in 2005 on the chassis of the 250 GT " Boano ." many " historians " and " experts " from " Ferrari " focused on the issue (it is too ! when? whom? names? ) , the "old bodybuilders " out of retirement in 1988 had disappeared ( of course, there is simple and even funny! ) , it was very difficult , 25 years later, the trace the history of this body ( it's too good ! ) , but suggests that this " Special " body has indeed been made ​​at the same time as the 410 # S / n 0671 SA ... , photos taken in 1988 by Keith Bluemel , published in Cavallino Magazine N ° 49 February / March 1989 show the existence ... has she served as draft? " ( there it is too strong, too big, too clown , Mr RB really takes the rest of the world for fools ! ), any history of the Ferrari 250 GT Boano S/n0579GT # 1956 is HERE and there: (250 GT Boano s / ​​n 0579GT ) and does not strictly correspond to the ramblings of Mr RB ) ...
We also causes ICI and there: ( [url ] http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vin...caglietti.html [/ url] ) ...

We have a pretty " special " body if not unique, made ​​" double " by true craftsmen period but disappeared and body goods ( ahahahahah ! ) Filed its 2005 chassis " Boano " ... he had to find him another frame and a suitable mechanical ( a monster butt !) ... and this is what makes the current owner , Mr RB ... I try to summarize :

A Ferrari 330 GT is found abandoned by Mr RB .. reserved in a garage for over 20 years ( the imagination of a fence is limitless ! ) , the clutch was out with the engine running , the number of chassis and engine were (too) clearly identifiable ( Matching Numbers , waouffff ! ), only the body was in an advanced state of ( hehehehehehe ! corrosion) , the change in body became possible to restore modest 330 GT (the word "modest" is could not be more ludicrous given the general history ) in any case , the owner could not bring himself to finish it in chicken or replica GTO , chassis was shortened slightly to bring it to 2.6 meters , the engine lowered 6 cm, because ultimately , this Ferrari changed body , like so many other Ferrari in their stories , but it is by no means any copy ( ahahahahah this is too strong , it's worse , an authentic copy of a car fly is probably the Ferrari 410 Scaglietti -Ghia SuperAmerica # S / n 0671 SA ...

In 2008, an innocent , playing the idiot lifelike abuse : Mr Bruno Dugauquier (it should be easy to find all these people ) , helped his friend Mr RB to rewrite history and to legalize a theft and fraud, while having the audacity (or stupidity ) ultimate naming names ...

He had the opportunity to take some pictures of the car that was barely restoration , upholstery was completely redone as well as mechanics, the history of the car was not yet well understood (gag ! ) And realization he is still secret ( ahahahahah ! ) ... see registration poorly done " in french " affixed with disparate screws ( on the red) and compare the registration in accordance with the original Italian version ( on brown ) ...

All " bouzouk " is clearly the work of a bunch of idiots who take others for even more idiots, the French inscription " Special Body " is the ultimate stupidity , a kind of signature scrawled by a racketeer small time with the appearance of a merchant occazes room ...
" But she looks great " ... he writes in the final ... because it claiming enthusiast bodies " Special " could admire in all its glory and take pictures for posterity ( Mr RB is now fuming , he buries his Ferrari in a secret place and on a trip to South America with Florent Pagny ...

Since this false 330 GT participated in several concours d'elegance ( if the car has won awards and cups tin , there's no hope for the future of humanity) ... and is currently offered for sale somewhere ( it would be too easy to know where ! ) in France (which is the police? ) , history is further stated crystal clear , the car is delivered with a "most complete record can " (that is to die of apoplexy !) ...

The world of Ferrari is a can of worms , it would be f ... fire and everything disappear ... the more I advance in time at all disgusts me more ...

Ah , yes, by the way ... to complicate everything ... the new and last owner of the real fake ( brown ) did repaint red last month , the picture is below. .. , regards, good to you , good morning to you ... and sincere condolences to the next and @ + !

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As always with Patrice this is an unfounded article: he finds a "story" he can write with a dramatic scenario, and he takes advantages on it to insult people such as (here) Enzo Ferrari, Luca Di Montezemolo...

This thread is not very interesting....
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As always with Patrice this is an unfounded article: he finds a "story" he can write with a dramatic scenario, and he takes advantages on it to insult people such as (here) Enzo Ferrari, Luca Di Montezemolo...

This thread is not very interesting....
If you prefer to believe in what Mr R.B. invented to justify the use of the body stolen from the one and only 410 Scaglietti-Boano... supposedly on 330GT chassis, with a body that would have supposedly been duplicated by same Scaglietti workers at the time..., creating a "bitza" which is just a custom-car worthless...
And if you prefer to believe in the lies of Enzo Ferrari and Greg Garrison who themselves are arranged to build from A to Z a false 410 by placing numbers of identification that belonged to the only true and authentic 410 fly...
In both cases, it's your choice!
This tarnish the image of Enzo, Greg, Mr R.B. and all stakeholders in cets stories and you accept these lies to become intolerant, it is pretty pathetic!
All this is just a mixture of various scams that are intended only to collect a maximum of money by lies and deception...
I have done a simple investigation on basis of public work,
-just like a few years ago I survey a wreck of Ferrari acquired in the USA in troubled circumstances and which has been restored and masked with other chassis numbers by Jacques Swaters...
-any as I investigate the case of the Favre 250GTO and delivered to the big day amount of elements that Ferrari wanted to leave in the shadow including William favre's so-called suicide!
Also free you to think what you want.

Si vous préférez croire en ce qu'a inventé Mr R.B. pour justifier l'utilisation de la carrosserie volée de la seule et unique 410 Scaglietti-Boano... soi-disant sur un châssis de 330GT, avec une carrosserie qui aurait soi-disant été dupliquée par les mêmes ouvriers de Scaglietti à l'époque..., créant un "bitza" qui n'est qu'un custom-car sans valeur...
Et si vous préférez croire dans les mensonges d'Enzo Ferrari et de Greg Garrisson qui se sont arrangé pour construire de A à Z une fausse 410 en y plaçant des numéros d'identification ayant appartenu à la seule vraie et authentique 410 volée...
Dans les deux cas, c'est votre choix !
Que cela ternisse l'image d'Enzo, de Greg, de Mr R.B. et de tous les intervenants dans cets histoires et que vous vous en offusquiez, c'est assez pathétique !
Tout cela n'est qu'un mélange d'escroqueries diverses qui ne visent qu'à encaisser un maximum d'argent par le mensonge et la tromperie...
Je n'ai fait qu'un simple travail d'enquète sur base d'éléments publics,
- tout comme il y a quelques années j'ai enquèté sur une épave de Ferrari acquise aux USA dans des circonstances troubles et qui a été restaurée et maquillée avec d'autres numéros de châssis par Jacques Swaters...
- tout comme j'ai enquèté sur l'affaire des 250GTO-Favre et remis au grand jour quantité d'éléments que Ferrari voulait laisser dans l'ombre en ce compris le soi-disant suicide de William favre !
Libre aussi à vous d'en penser ce que vous voulez.
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there was a Ferrari 410 SA in carmel this year :
http://www.**************/gallery/119513/3049/1.html

it was a true or a 'false' ?
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If you prefer to believe in what Mr R.B. invented to justify the use of the body stolen from the one and only 410 Scaglietti-Boano... supposedly on 330GT chassis, with a body that would have supposedly been duplicated by same Scaglietti workers at the time..., creating a "bitza" which is just a custom-car worthless...
And if you prefer to believe in the lies of Enzo Ferrari and Greg Garrison who themselves are arranged to build from A to Z a false 410 by placing numbers of identification that belonged to the only true and authentic 410 fly...
In both cases, it's your choice!
This tarnish the image of Enzo, Greg, Mr R.B. and all stakeholders in cets stories and you accept these lies to become intolerant, it is pretty pathetic!
All this is just a mixture of various scams that are intended only to collect a maximum of money by lies and deception...
I have done a simple investigation on basis of public work,
-just like a few years ago I survey a wreck of Ferrari acquired in the USA in troubled circumstances and which has been restored and masked with other chassis numbers by Jacques Swaters...
-any as I investigate the case of the Favre 250GTO and delivered to the big day amount of elements that Ferrari wanted to leave in the shadow including William favre's so-called suicide!
Also free you to think what you want.

Si vous préférez croire en ce qu'a inventé Mr R.B. pour justifier l'utilisation de la carrosserie volée de la seule et unique 410 Scaglietti-Boano... soi-disant sur un châssis de 330GT, avec une carrosserie qui aurait soi-disant été dupliquée par les mêmes ouvriers de Scaglietti à l'époque..., créant un "bitza" qui n'est qu'un custom-car sans valeur...
Et si vous préférez croire dans les mensonges d'Enzo Ferrari et de Greg Garrisson qui se sont arrangé pour construire de A à Z une fausse 410 en y plaçant des numéros d'identification ayant appartenu à la seule vraie et authentique 410 volée...
Dans les deux cas, c'est votre choix !
Que cela ternisse l'image d'Enzo, de Greg, de Mr R.B. et de tous les intervenants dans cets histoires et que vous vous en offusquiez, c'est assez pathétique !
Tout cela n'est qu'un mélange d'escroqueries diverses qui ne visent qu'à encaisser un maximum d'argent par le mensonge et la tromperie...
Je n'ai fait qu'un simple travail d'enquète sur base d'éléments publics,
- tout comme il y a quelques années j'ai enquèté sur une épave de Ferrari acquise aux USA dans des circonstances troubles et qui a été restaurée et maquillée avec d'autres numéros de châssis par Jacques Swaters...
- tout comme j'ai enquèté sur l'affaire des 250GTO-Favre et remis au grand jour quantité d'éléments que Ferrari voulait laisser dans l'ombre en ce compris le soi-disant suicide de William favre !
Libre aussi à vous d'en penser ce que vous voulez.
Une enquête...
Dans un autre thread de FChat vous aviez dit que l'entretien trop cher d'une Dino vous avait amené à détester Ferrari et ses protagonistes, comment faire une enquête objective dans ce cas?
Il y a eu plein de cas dans lesquels il y a des numéros de châssis en double ou autre, ce n'est pas un "scandale", ce ne sont pas des "mensonges" de la part de Ferrari pour se faire de l'argent mais la plupart du temps (comme les 250MM de la Panamericana) c'était dans l'intérêt financier des clients.
Bref , Ferrari c'est 65 ans d'histoire, avec au moins 20 ans de production artisanale, on ne peut pas tout savoir, mais à quoi bon insulter tout le monde...
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Thumbs down Bad mentality...

Merci d'être assidu à mes articles ! Mes expériences avec les gens, avec les gens de l'automobile et avec les gens de Ferrari m'ont appris en 45 années d'édition à ne jamais croire les belles et bonnes paroles et communiqués de presse, et surtout les si belles histoires destinées à endormir les imbéciles en les carressant dans le sens du poil ! Je me flatte de ne dépendre de personne et ne n'avoir jamais eu besoin de faire la pute-journalistique pour survivre... De plus, depuis 45 ans, j'ai tellement voyagé et connu de monde que je connais beaucoup de gens et d'histoires, ainsi que de "secrets"... ayant un certain don d'enquète, ce qui dérange énormément... Je ne puis admettre que vous puissiez admettre que Ferrari magouille avec les numéros de châsis "dans l'intérèt de ses clients"..., c'est pareil que d'admettre un, vol, un crime ou toute autre fait délictueux dans l'intérèt d'un ami, d'un client, d'une relation... avec la circonstance aggravante qu'il y a complicité et co-action délictueuse... Ces escroqueries sont malsaines, d'autant plus qu'en finale c'est une cascade de tromperies qui devient institutionnelle et qui rapporte des millions et des millions...

Thanks for being diligent in my articles! My experiences with people, with the people of the car and with the people of Ferrari have taught me in 45 years Edition to never believe the beautiful and good words and press releases, and especially so beautiful stories to fall asleep the fools in the carressant in the direction of the hair! I flatters me not depend on person and don't have never had to do the journalistic whore to survive... In addition, for 45 years, I so traveled and known world I know lots of people and stories, as well as "secrets"... having a certain gift of inquiry, what disturbs greatly... I do agree that you can admit that Ferrari scheming with chasis numbers "in the interest of its clients"..., is such as to admit one, theft, a crime or any other made criminal in the interests of a friend, a client, a relationship... with the aggravating circumstance that there is complicity and tortious co-action... These scams are unhealthy, because in the final it is a waterfall of deceptions which becomes institutional and who reported millions and millions...
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In 1953 Ferrari was at its beggining, I can understand that, for instance, to keep a client who doesn't want to pay twice the importation taxes in south america, they used the serial number of his old 212 for his new 250 (If I remember well).
I don't think it's outrageous, I think it is interesting, it's part of Ferrari History!
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In 1953 Ferrari was at its beggining, I can understand that, for instance, to keep a client who doesn't want to pay twice the importation taxes in south america, they used the serial number of his old 212 for his new 250 (If I remember well).
I don't think it's outrageous, I think it is interesting, it's part of Ferrari History!
Donc, si je comprend bien ce que vous écrivez, vous êtes en accord avec ces fraudes ! Ferrari efface l'identification d'une nouvelle voiture d'un de ses clients pour y placer celle d'une plus ancienne de ce même client qui a déjà payé ses taxes afin que la nouvelle n'en paye pas !!! Vous devriez expliquer cela au ministère des finances et des douanes..., ils vont s'amuser !

So, if I understand what you write, you are in agreement with these frauds! Ferrari clears the identification of a new car from one of its customers to place a oldest of this same customer who has already paid his taxes so that the new not pay! You should explain this to the Ministry of finance and customs..., they're going to have fun!
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Donc, si je comprend bien ce que vous écrivez, vous êtes en accord avec ces fraudes ! Ferrari efface l'identification d'une nouvelle voiture d'un de ses clients pour y placer celle d'une plus ancienne de ce même client qui a déjà payé ses taxes afin que la nouvelle n'en paye pas !!! Vous devriez expliquer cela au ministère des finances et des douanes..., ils vont s'amuser !

So, if I understand what you write, you are in agreement with these frauds! Ferrari clears the identification of a new car from one of its customers to place a oldest of this same customer who has already paid his taxes so that the new not pay! You should explain this to the Ministry of finance and customs..., they're going to have fun!
I suspect that the statute of limitations has run on these violations.
The factory also played fast and loose with carnets on competition cars. Not so much to avoid taxes but to avoid the red tape that could delay last minute transport to races.
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Donc, si je comprend bien ce que vous écrivez, vous êtes en accord avec ces fraudes ! Ferrari efface l'identification d'une nouvelle voiture d'un de ses clients pour y placer celle d'une plus ancienne de ce même client qui a déjà payé ses taxes afin que la nouvelle n'en paye pas !!! Vous devriez expliquer cela au ministère des finances et des douanes..., ils vont s'amuser !

So, if I understand what you write, you are in agreement with these frauds! Ferrari clears the identification of a new car from one of its customers to place a oldest of this same customer who has already paid his taxes so that the new not pay! You should explain this to the Ministry of finance and customs..., they're going to have fun!
I think you should relax a bit; Nobody is saying they agree with tax fraud, just that it happened (60+ years ago!) and it's a part of the marque's history. To curious eyes, that fact is an interesting historical "tell" about early management's desire to keep customers happy despite risk of significant consequence. After all, a thriving, secure brand would not do that.
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If I recall correctly, the story of this car was in Cavallino. In the next issue was a letter from me with a pic that I borrowed from Gary Wales, showing a body much more like a standard PF 410SA, but with the SS top still in place, as well as some SS below the doors.
Back in the day, Gary had this car (with the "more standard" body) and sold it to Stan Sokol. I went to look at it when Stan tried to sell it, but smoke was pouring out of the exhaust, and in those days the cost of an engine overhaul was greater than the value of the car. Hence, Stan was unable to find a buyer. Soon, the car was reported stolen. A few years later, there were rumors that the car (perhaps less its body) was in Oregon, but no-one would tell me where. Many years passed before Greg got on it; he was a man to whom no-one said "no", so that's how it ended up with him.
My early notes show it as having been owned by Baron Enrico de Portanova, who had it rebodied at Boano. But my notes don't say which was the rebody, as it seems to have had three bodies: (I think) The original was the body shown in early photos, which Greg later had replicated, then the one on it when it was with Gary/Stan, and then the one that Greg had built. When I tried to give this info to Greg, he refused to hear about it.
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My early notes show it as having been owned by Baron Enrico de Portanova, who had it rebodied at Boano. But my notes don't say which was the rebody, as it seems to have had three bodies: (I think) The original was the body shown in early photos, which Greg later had replicated, then the one on it when it was with Gary/Stan, and then the one that Greg had built. When I tried to give this info to Greg, he refused to hear about it.
Yes, originally bodied by Scaglietti, modified by Boano in the late 1950s (this body reportedly later disposed of in a lake), and then rebodied while with Greg to resemble the original Scaglietti coachwork.

I tried asking Greg once why, with photos available showing the original Scaglietti body from various angles, the body he commissioned came out looking so inaccurate. I was prepared to be shown the door, but for some reason, he just laughed it off and changed the subject.
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If I recall correctly, the story of this car was in Cavallino. In the next issue was a letter from me with a pic that I borrowed from Gary Wales, showing a body much more like a standard PF 410SA, but with the SS top still in place, as well as some SS below the doors.
Here are the Gary Wales pics showing the Boano modifications to the original Scaglietti body, a horrendous result in my opinion:
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Yes, it did have a case of the uglies (not that I like Greg's body much better). Just not my cup of tea.
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I agree with both Ed Niles and El Wayne as to the history of the car. Maybe the original Boano modified body did end up back in Europe after the car was stolen, and it is the remains of this body that Patrice is talking about. In any case, 0671 is now in Ohio with the Garrison reproduction body.
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You know, the Boano modifications remind me of the 500 powered hotrod: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/re...americano.html

Not to everyone's taste but interesting and expressive.

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