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  1. tongascrew

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    i have just received a copy of 'ferrari in style' magazine issue #1 from 1985. there is an article about the marzotto 1951 MM car listing the chassis as # 0024. it also states that the marzotto bros. took the car to mexico [1952?] for the carrera pan american then sold it to l. logano who brought it to texas and sold to dave andrews. later v8 installed[ v12 to pete lovely] car was resold several times and ended up with jack du gan in florida. it is my understanding that 'the egg' was built on chassis #0084 and there is no reference of the car going to merxico or the usa. the original body from 0024 was later installed on 0084. is there any truth to this story? i can find no history of any 166/212 or 340 car of this period with a history anything like this. any idears out there??? lets hear some opinions on this. thanks. george tongascrew
     
  2. ArtS

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    i know that 0030 MT was owned by the Marzottos. i'm not sure if that helps you.

    Regards,

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  3. Ed Niles

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    I bought the Egg from Lucille Schaub (Harvey's widow) and sold it to Jack DuGan, so what I can tell you is from personal observation. The Chassis no. on the frame is 024MB (or 024M8?), not 0024. I believe 0024 comes from the fact that Harvey listed it that way in an old FOC roster.

    I wrote a story on this car for FML a short while ago, which was edited by Gerald and Carbon. Please refer to that article. I have no idea whether or not the 024MB stamping on the front of the frame was done at the factory, but don't know why anyone in the old days would have re-stamped it.

    Don't have G. Marzotto's book handy--what does he say?
     
  4. ivo73

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    Hello to all,

    a 4 page report by du Gan was also published in the Prancing Horse magazin no.86 regarding the "egg" 024MB.
    And also the factory certificate of origin no.044 shows: vettura 166 MM, Carrozzeria Touring,serial number 024 MB. (also pictured on PH 86)

    But no one has yet explained the suffix "MB".....any idea someone?

    regards
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  5. Aardy

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    I'm sure the "B" of 024MB is like a "bis" because all the cars had before 024MB an engine with previous number (0024M with engine number 0022M for example, 0022M with 0020M engine...).
    With 024MB, the factory reunited both engine and cars numbers which was more logical.

    BTW : I wonder where the info that "Uovo" was 024MB came ??
    I have pics showing Barchetta Touring before and AFTER the 1950 Mille Miglia crash with same "VI 19370" registration and Touring barchetta body.

    For me, Uovo was originally 0084E : not 024MB.
     
  6. piloti

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    Hi Ed,
    Marzotto says 024MB
    Nathan
     
  7. dretceterini

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    I was told that the MB actually stands for Marzotto berlinetta!!
     
  8. wolfchen75

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    I owned the Egg for a short time in the late 1980's , I bought it through a dealer whom sold it for jack duGann. it was mess, the chassis was badly twisted and neither the brakes nor suspension was 100% operable. I found that
    IF I could get into the cockpit I could not see out well enough to drive it
    and so passed it on to the next owner. The engine also needed work and imo was not original to the chassis but came from one of the Marzotto numerous other early Ferrari cars.

    Jeffrey Vogel
    Bridgehampton NY
     
  9. dretceterini

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    This car was sitting at a shop in the South Bay area of So Cal, circa 1975, and it was a mess back then...
     
  10. anton

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    Last time I saw it was not long before Ed bought it- it was in a chicken coop in Sun Valley, CA(Schaubs).
    Anton
     
  11. Ed Niles

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    Yes, Dr. Stu, the Egg was at Tillack's shop, just the way I got it from Lucille, and the way I sold it to DuGan. Harvey had cut the body loose from the frame, and it had an early engine w/ one carb, surely non-original. It truly was a mess, which is why I decided not to restore, even though prices were starting to rise. Maybe I should have kept it and restored it?
     
  12. of2worlds

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    Hello Mr Niles: if not 'The Egg' then what would have been your favorite Ferrari to 'keep and restore' from the list of amazing Ferrari models that passed through your hands? The passing of time seems to minimize some of the problems these old Ferrari models presented. You seem to be able to reach back with a clarity that many more recent admirers' lack! A blue Ferrari perhaps? Thank you.
    horse fan
     
  13. dretceterini

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    MY favorite Ferrari (of the ones I KNOW that Ed owned; I don't have a full list) is 0515, the 250 Zagato.
     
  14. dretceterini

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    I have no idea what you paid, but would think it would be worth 3 million or more today after total restoation, assuming all the proper parts could be found....
     
  15. Ed Niles

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    2 blue ones that come trippingly to mind are 0515GT, the Zagato, and 1777GT, the Nembo. I try not to think of what I should have kept--no point in giving myself a heart attack! Maybe 002, the 206SP, or the 250TR with Drogo body (was it 0716?), or 2689GT, the LM winning SWB. Oh well.
     
  16. vur

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    wow what a list. most people (like me) wont even get to see these cars you mention, much less add their names to the logbook. thanks for sharing that.
     
  17. Bob Zambelli

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    If not already posted, let's see the egg!!

    Bob Z.
     
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  19. of2worlds

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    Thanks for your personal observations Mr Niles! The Zagato does have quite a following...
    Blue Ferraris seem very popular, even Mr Roush is a 'fan' of a certain blue and white Ferrari.
    horse fan
     
  20. vur

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    An absolutely committed looking GT if ever I saw one....Awesome!!
     
  21. tongascrew

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    thanks for all the info.the reference to 0084 comes from 'ferrari, fifty years on the track' by starkey, renwick and olczyk. these people are usually pretty acurate so can anyone tell me where they got the idea that chassis 0084 is the one used in creating 'the egg' . can anyone shed some light on this. i would think M M would have some ideas. thanks tongascrew george
     
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    new Anselmi / Massini bible says 0084 ES
     
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