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Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
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Username: Robertgarven

Post Number: 342
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 12:05 am:   

Guys,

Ted Rutlands and GT Car Parts have them for much less. On my gt4 however the stock bottom line was so short that it kinked when installed like a bent straw. I ended up getting a hose from a later car which was a couple of inches longer and seemed to fit perfectly. Inside the old one I found a cam shaft cap alignment dowel trapped in the banjo fitting which must have fallen when the "expert mechanic did the major service before I got it. Funny thing is when I did my major previous to this I found a missing dowel and replaced it. ;-)

Dont forget to replace the copper washers.

Rob
dave handa (Davehanda)
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Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 1986
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   

Nice, for once a reasonable cost repair! Hopefully the labor was not too bad....
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member
Username: Funshipone

Post Number: 236
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 8:44 pm:   

Well gentlemen oil leak is fixed. I had hose removed from car seemed as though crimp around fitting was loose. I took hose to a close friends hydraulic hose company, and had fitting recrimped. The leak is fixed cost $0.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1699
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 2:33 pm:   

Seems to be some argument on the "re-usability" issue. Perhaps there is more than one design. However, the first guy I ever heard of re-using them said that disassembly is not at all obvious. Not sure what he meant.
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
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Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 130
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 8:39 am:   

Nice to know the banjo fittings are re-usable. Had to replace both hoses, the hosemaker told me they didn't have the correct ID hose and the banjo fittings were a on shot deal...oh well..this was last summer. Cost me 800.00 for both hoses...
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 3143
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:48 pm:   

John, check out my thread I posted in the "General Discussion" area of this site...
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 3138
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:54 pm:   

Skip, give me some time. The hose builder I used supplied us with hydraulic hoses used in the aircraft refuelers I made a few years ago and since we got orders for more refuelers, we'll be using him again. When I see him, I'm going to order a whole pile of fittings and disperse them to those who need (hoses are readily available, its the banjos that are hard to get...).
Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
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Username: Turboqv

Post Number: 104
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:32 pm:   

now your talking right!!

John Bicsak (Funshipone)
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Username: Funshipone

Post Number: 233
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 2:56 pm:   

I thank everyone for your input we are having hose fixed at local Hydraulic shop for a lot less than $500.00 Ferrari dealers are insane.
Jay Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jay

Post Number: 1520
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 2:04 pm:   

Peter all that plating is for nothing if you can't drive! LOL
Mick Worrall (Catswhiskers)
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Username: Catswhiskers

Post Number: 27
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 1:59 pm:   

Just for the record. I recently had a set of replacement hoses made up using the existing banjo's. I also had a 'by-pass' hose made to put in place of the oil cooler while I waited for a new cooler to come. The whole set only cost me �58 and just in case you're doubtful, the pipes are rated to over 1000psi. No problems.
Mick
Skip VanDenBerg (Skipgt4)
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Username: Skipgt4

Post Number: 40
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:21 am:   

Peter, Where did you get the fittings? Do you have a part number for them?
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 3131
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 11:45 pm:   

That's me that Dave Handa is refering to and yes, I did save some big coin by having new hoses made, including new ends (which were hard to locate and took some time, but then, I could wait anyways). In my case, I needed new ends as one of the hoses was the very original one from 1975 and was in one piece (ferrule and banjo) which could not be salvaged. Besides, it was a corroded piece of s--- anyways and I was trying my best to make the engine bay clean and shiny. Nothing looks better than new gold-cad plating! Ask Jay Grande!!

$200Cdn all said-and-done (two hi-pressure hydraulic hoses, four fittings and labor).
Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member
Username: Darolls

Post Number: 99
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 11:34 pm:   

Philip-

That was the total for both hoses!

They used the original 'Banjos', and no leaks since.

The Banjo fittings are reusable, unless you've fried them, i.e. cracked or distorted.

Jay,you're sources are wrong; possibly they got ripped off?

Usually it's the hose; not the fitting that goes bad.
Philip Airey (Pma1010)
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Username: Pma1010

Post Number: 455
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 8:03 pm:   

Dave Bendl had some made up with Aeroquip (sp) ends. $100 - 120 per hose I think.
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 1931
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 6:29 pm:   

If you have the time, it may be worth the effort to check and see if it is cheaper to have some made. If I remember correctly, Peter Rychel had some made for his GT4, and the only trick was finding/sourcing the fittings, and he did save some $$$.
Jay Grande (Jay)
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Username: Jay

Post Number: 1518
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 5:33 pm:   

Try Ferrari UK, usually cheaper. I bought mine from Trutlands for the GT4. Get it now before it blows! I'd be reluctant to have one made, heard some horror stories of it costing more than an OE hose once you add fittings.
Skip Williamson (Darolls)
Junior Member
Username: Darolls

Post Number: 97
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 4:11 pm:   

You can have a hydraulic hose shop make one up.

Bring in your old hose, they'll reuse the old banjo fittings.

I have a friend who had both of his done a few years ago. The price then was about $100 for two of them.

That reminds me, I have one seeping that I need to take care of.
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member
Username: Funshipone

Post Number: 231
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 - 2:24 pm:   

Has anyone had to replace oil cooler line that runs from oil cooler to oil pan. Where to purchase my mechanic says just for line is $500.00 any input.

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