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Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member
Username: Dopplemax
Post Number: 37
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 2:34 pm: | |
Be very careful with the use of ozone generators, Ozone is a carcinogen, and the use of generators as an air cleaning device has been debunked by the US EPA, University of Tulsa and others. The class action law suit was in response to fictitious health claims by manufacturers of such such devices. If you can smell the ozone, there is to high a concentration. |
adrian low (Audionut)
Member
Username: Audionut
Post Number: 353
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 5:58 am: | |
I've had 2 of the Sharper Image products. Did not work too well. I used it for getting rid of smoke, odor and air particles. I love a good cigar in my office and I cannot always open the windows. The Sharper Image units also broke down after 2 years.
I now use ozone generators from www.crystalair.ca
Really seems to work to neutralise the smell of cigars, and the manufacturer is great. Had a problem with a transformer and they took care of it immediately. Ideal for enclosed areas. |
wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 1632
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 4:14 pm: | |
I bought mine for my office when my Living Air Ion Generator finally crashed. The Sharper Image product didn't make a dent in the thick smoke smell, so back to Sharper Image it went. The manufacturer or some of the distributors of theLiving Air product got into some kind of regulatory dispute,as i recall , by making allegedly false claims of efficacy for health, but the product definitely generates some serious ozone. On the other hand, how good could cigarette smoke and cooking particulates be for your lungs? Only problem is that the Living Air products seem to be sold by a cult, and you have to order them from a local "dealer." They do kick serious ass, though. |
Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member
Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 1414
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 1:05 pm: | |
I have first-hand experience with it. In our old apartment, my wife and I had a party that went late/early and the next morning it was stuffy smokey in there. We bought one, plugged it in and left for 2 hours. When we returned the entire place (about 1000 sq. feet) was clear, and you couldn't smell any smoke at all. I think it works really well. That was 3 years ago and it hasn't given us any problems. |
Matthew Cooper (Dopplemax)
New member
Username: Dopplemax
Post Number: 36
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 9:09 pm: | |
The functional concept of all precipitator filtration systems is essentially sound, but largely impractical. These type of systems load very quickly, and if they are not frequently cleaned they will lose their ability to attract particles and will rapidly shed what they have accumulated. If you plan on cleaning the system weekly, it may meet your needs, but that also depends on what micron range matter you are trying to remoe from the environment. In most applications I would concur that a well built HEPA unit would be your best bet. Austin Air has long built one of the best. It uses a true DOP tested HEPA, carbon/zeolite mid filter for gas-phase (odor) filtration and pre-filter. Run 24 hours a day in a normal household environment the HEPA would need replacement every 3 years or so. Changing you central HVAC filter to a higher efficiency treated pleated filter such as a 3M Filtrete product will also have major benefits to overall conditions. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member
Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2963
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:13 am: | |
According to Consumer Reports the Ion Breeze is the WORST air filter system on the market. And the ones they listed as good were much cheaper too. |
Zen Hwang (Thwang)
New member
Username: Thwang
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
I have 4 Ionic Breeze GP and love them. The GP model is suppose to be better then the HEPA filters. |
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member
Username: Nebulaclass
Post Number: 418
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 12:43 am: | |
HEPA filters only need to be on about 4 hours a day. A nice unit will clear a room in one hour, and it will remain fairly dustless for another six. My pal's got a really big HEPA unit that he runs for about 6 hours a day. Keeps all the dust out of his house (he bought it cause he had a problem with tons of dust), and the carbon filters catch most of the dust. He's had it for a year and the HEPA is still pretty clean.
The Ionic Breeze is exactly the same as any ion unit that you culd buy at Sears for 35 - 100 bux, depending on the size. They've been on the market for years, and they do work, although not as well as HEPAs.
Go buy it at Sears! You'll save a bunch of money, and you won't be supporting bad late-night commercials. |
Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member
Username: Tiger_ace
Post Number: 225
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 8:46 pm: | |
How do we know the difference between "before" & "after"? I have several different air cleaners in my house, including Sharper Image's. They all take away some odors, and my kids have less problem of coughing when they were turned on than off. So I figure they are working OK. HEPA filter one actually cost a lot as Paul said. Changing a filter every 2 months (w/ 24 hours on) adds up. Sharper Image's have to be cleaned ever 3-4 weeks, and I like the smell of ion after we clean the unit. (then you don't notice it after few hours)
Vacuuming w/ air filter syster & ventilating air everyday is pretty good IMO |
David S (Djs308)
Junior Member
Username: Djs308
Post Number: 169
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 7:52 pm: | |
Although I didn't read the article, Consumer Reports just listed the Sharper Image product as one of the worst on the market as far as how much it cleans the air. The chart showed how bad it was compared to other systems. They aren't cheap so do some research before buying... |
Paul Wehmer (Pwehmer)
Junior Member
Username: Pwehmer
Post Number: 204
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:38 am: | |
Got one. Doesn't do nearly as much as they say.
Buy a HEPA filter system. Don't bother with the cheapy HEPA systems - the filters don't have enough area so you end up buying filter elements all the time. Also they tend to be noisy.
"IQ Air" builds the best HEPA system. Makes a big difference in air quality. |
Oldslow308 (Djparks)
Member
Username: Djparks
Post Number: 593
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 8:22 am: | |
Not for the price they are asking. Probably costs 35.00 in materials plus labor. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 1348
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:11 am: | |
We have them because of allergy suffers...it can make a difference for people who have real problems, but otherwise I wouldn't bother.
--Dan |
IamA (Ski_bum)
Junior Member
Username: Ski_bum
Post Number: 165
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:05 am: | |
Anyone use/know someone who uses the Ion Breeze?
Keep seeing those ads on TV. It looks like a good product, but don't want to get suckered. |