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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2957 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 7:58 am: | |
David, two of my Fiats, my Boxer as well as my ex-348 Spider have been parked under my little beach shack. And, they looked good there. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 2521 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 9:26 pm: | |
David, if it were that easy Frank would have HIS Boxer parked in front of the house! |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 320 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 4:59 pm: | |
Frank, You do indeed crack me up...!!! Even my balls ache after reading the abuse you're taking in this post. However...I took another look at my lowly "soul-less car...and you're right, it's "just a car". Yeah, right! So, how about a 25% discount, as having this car parked in front of your "shack" will certainly raise real estate values??
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DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 6233 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
quote:Cars have no "soul", only human beings do.
LOL, Frank... You know they're gonna rip you a new one for that, right...? How can you be an owner of 6 Ferraris, past and present, and still desire more and not admit that these cars have soul...? That these cars exude passion; that they hold over us, a lust for all things automotive...? Why do you own a Ferrari...? Why not buy something else...? A Nissan Z or a Toyota MR2 or a Supra or a Mustang...? This should be in General Discussion so you can get a more thorough reaming... |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2956 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 2:36 pm: | |
David, part of my posts are made in jest, merely purporting a pun my friend. I realize that Ferrari has a great racing history. My point was that a Ferrari is just a car. A lot of people love them including me...but just a car nonetheless. Now go to www.capesanblasvacation.com and after looking at my house....close your eyes and imagine your car sitting there while you and your lady are frolicking of the beach with no other soul in sight ! |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 319 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 2:26 pm: | |
So Frank..."Ferraris are no more special than Kias"??? You can't be fcn serious? Marketing issues aside, Ferrari has a long, glorious history...which I believe is why most of us purchase them. As to the beach house rental, the Kia board is offering a 25% discount to their members. At least on that board, the owners do know what they're really driving. Always nice reading these posts... Hugs, David |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 6011 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 2:16 pm: | |
That also raises the question if the Beachhouse is in Florida since that part used to belong to Alabama at one point, geografically it may be considered Georgia and Indians lived here so it truely is Indiana. True Florida Beachhouses are in the Pan, not the handle Frank. Dino or Ferrari ?  |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member Username: Craigfl
Post Number: 678 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 2:15 pm: | |
I heard that Frank plays subliminal audio messages about Dinos thru the intercom at his beach house while you are sleeping. Somtimes when the wind in blowing from the southeast we can hear them in Panama City.  |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2954 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:55 pm: | |
Rob, I agree. If you want the most performance for the dollar you would NEVER get a Ferrari. You would get a Viper instead. It is the sound, look, smell and feel of those Italian steads that that keeps me pissing away money to own them. I love them...and to get back to my original post...they look good sitting under my beach house waiting for a tour of the traffic free area including a few places you can really open her up. |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1365 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:43 pm: | |
>>Rob, that's where you're wrong. Ferrari is a corporation, no more no less. It is meant to earn a profit. It once made road cars to make money to make race cars. It now makes race cars to hep sell road cars to make money. Cars have no "soul", only human beings do. Italian cars including those badged as Ferraris sound good....look good and offer an element of fun most other cars lack. But, the bottom line is they are made of metal, plastic, leather, glass and some a little wood. Ferrari Spa could care less about you or you car...it only cares that you buy another one of its cars one day and use it's dealers to buy parts, accessories and service so it makes more money. The so called Ferrari "myth" was created by Ferrari to sale more of its products. Don't let its great international marketing propaganda pull the wool over your eyes to believe the cars it makes are any more special than a Kia...they're not...they're just more fun to look at, listen to and drive. << If you can believe it, I actually share some of Frank's sentiment (or lack therof) here. However, Frank, if Ferrari's , in your opinion, are simply comglomerate consumer disposables, why do you continually defend the legitemacy one type of said Co.'s products over another? A BIC razor, afterall, is a BIC razor. Either you feel "strongly" about the Ferrari's that you choose to buy, or you simply like giving someone the mustard about driving any ferrari other than the ones that suit your tastes (or defenition of "true" ferrari motoring). So, which is it? Are Ferrari's annonymous rolling recylced tuna cans (if true, this makes your endlessly meandering melladramatic diatribes about: entry level ferraris, dino's, FIAT, V8, V12, "proper ferraris", enzo quotes, what enzo wanted, etc seem all the more innane). Or, are ferraris NOT annonymous consumer disposables, therefore your above statements are moot, as evidenced by your tireless campaign to stratify the lineage and chastity of one model(s) of ferrari v. another (i.e., V8 "entry-level" v. V12 "what enzo wanted" cars). What're we to make of your "sentimentality" Frank? Regards, A confused "cottage", err, "beachhouse" , err, "townhome", err, "condominium" owner. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6227 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:34 pm: | |
LOL Martin |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Senior Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 6010 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:26 pm: | |
I am throwing the "General Ferrari Discussion" flag here! This has nothing to do in the off-topic section for crying out loud! I come hear to read juicy stuff on GWB and car waxes as well as trusty fish-like licenseplate frames! Stop whinning about Ferrari already!
(ah that flet good) |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6226 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:15 pm: | |
OK, maybe I'm just more emotional than you are. I love the sounds, sights, and feel of Ferrari that you think are "good". No one told me to feel this way. The first Ferrari I ever saw in person was a rossa corsa Testarossa in little ole Salina, KS around 1988. I knew nothing of corporations and being 14 years old Ferrari wasn't trying to sell me one. However, as it slowly drove by the beautiful sight and sound hit me emotionally. That continues today whenever I'm around a Ferrari, read about Ferrari, or talk about Ferrari. There is something beyond the corporate books that attracts us to Ferrari. Why else would we pay for something so expensive. If you like Ferraris for their price and the performance they offer for that price, then you're not a very good decision maker. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2953 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:02 pm: | |
Rob, that's where you're wrong. Ferrari is a corporation, no more no less. It is meant to earn a profit. It once made road cars to make money to make race cars. It now makes race cars to hep sell road cars to make money. Cars have no "soul", only human beings do. Italian cars including those badged as Ferraris sound good....look good and offer an element of fun most other cars lack. But, the bottom line is they are made of metal, plastic, leather, glass and some a little wood. Ferrari Spa could care less about you or you car...it only cares that you buy another one of its cars one day and use it's dealers to buy parts, accessories and service so it makes more money. The so called Ferrari "myth" was created by Ferrari to sale more of its products. Don't let its great international marketing propaganda pull the wool over your eyes to believe the cars it makes are any more special than a Kia...they're not...they're just more fun to look at, listen to and drive. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6225 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:51 pm: | |
OK, I'll talk sslllllooooowwwwerrr... your perception is you're right. my perception is I'm right. reality is there somewhere. Ok, tell me what you don't agree with here... 1) Ferrari is a part of FIAT. 2) If GM bought FIAT, then GM would own Ferrari. 3) Ferrari is beyond the black and white of who owns it on paper. The history, the people, the factory, the traditions.
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Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2951 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:37 pm: | |
Rob, I see now, you were referring to Arthur's perception that the Forza article was a spoof was not reality. I'm so sorry I misunderstood you. |
Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton
Post Number: 719 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:28 pm: | |
If you want a really great location that is perfect for anyone reguardless of the car you drive, try one of my two beach condo's @ www.cariberesort.com located in beautiful orange beach Alabama. The resort is just a few miles from Pennsicola airport, or 10 minutes from Jack Edwards airport for you private airplane types. I have 1108 & 308 both are 2 bedroom 2 bath. The area has plenty to do such as fine dinning, deep sea fishing, shopping, site seeing & night life. The Floribama bar is just a 5 min drive from the resort if you like a serious party spot. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6221 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:23 pm: | |
Ohh Frank, I think less and less of you every time I hear from you. Digging and digging and digging. You interpret what others say any way you want. Your thoughts are random and non-linear. You're not even worth talking to because you don't listen and then will respond trying to put your words in others peoples mouths. You give Ferrari enthusiasts a bad name. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2950 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:19 pm: | |
Warren, yes there are several bars in the area including the must visit 40 year old Indian Pass Raw Bar. I have been down there to party with crowds before and we go out to party a couple of nights but the rest of the time we do the bonfire on the beach and beer/shooters deal until the wee hours of the morning. For the more active type, there is great deep sea fishing, boating, water skiing and even scubi diving at a man made reef a few miles off shore. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2949 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:14 pm: | |
Rob, it is more than perception when you can see and run your fingers over the FIAT stamping in the Dino engine block. Nor when you look at the companies listed as subsidiaries of Fiat and see Ferrari, Spa. listed. I still fail to see why so many of you reject that truth. Are you embarassed that your car is really a Dino or a Fiat or are you ashamed that you spent so much on a car and don't want to accept that it is a Dino or a Fiat or what ? I have had 6 cars badged as Ferraris and 5 of them were really Fiats as they were made after Fiat bought controlling interest of the once solely owned by Enzo Ferrari car company. I loved all of them and often referred to them as overpriced Fiats to others. Only my 1967 330GTC could really be said to be a true Ferrari, and even it had some Fiat parts on it. People who own Vipers never complain that their car is really a DamilerChysler even though it is badged a Dodge or Corvette owners that have Chevrolet badged cars that are made by GM. Are most Ferrari owners that insecure ? |
Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren
Post Number: 250 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 12:10 pm: | |
I think I need a break from the summer/beach houses after my South Hampton Summer ordeal. Lets see, share the house with 20 other people, mostly snobby yuppy I-bankers and consultants, and a few hot chicks. Sleep on the floor drunk because all the beds are taken up. Rained like 80% of the weekends. This place seems very isolated. More of a couples location. ARe there bars, clubs, etc... in the area?? |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6220 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:51 am: | |
Perception is not always reality. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2948 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:28 am: | |
Rob, when you're correct you're usually not following the crowd. Arthur, because Fiat made the engines for the Dino 206/246 as well as the Fiat Dino. If you will look at a Dino engine block you will see "FIAT" stamped thereon. And, a Ferrari is a Fiat too ? |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 2564 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:05 am: | |
Frank: I read the article, and I think it was written as a spoof on the Dino vs. Ferrari issue. Why else would they compare a Fiat with a Ferrari? Art |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6219 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 11:00 am: | |
Frank you're way too literal for your own good. Enzo Ferrari created a new line of cars and called them Dino for business and marketing reasons. Have you ever thought there may be a reason you stand alone on so many of your views? No reason to make life that difficult on yourself, but that's your own choice. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2946 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 10:56 am: | |
Rob, I suggest that you read that Forza article again or have it read to you if the reading proves too difficult. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6216 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 8:30 am: | |
No, the earlier Ferraris were badged as Dinos for marketing purposes. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2942 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 7:22 am: | |
You guys are so funny. Come bring your Ferrari or Dino or any other car for that matter...just come. By the way, did you see the article in the latest Forza magazine comparing the Dino 246 to the Fiat Dino ? It also mentioned the later V8 Dinos that were badged as Ferraris for marketing purposes. |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Member Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 4:05 am: | |
I wonder if folks with "entry level cars" are so allowed to rent this fine abode...??? |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh
Post Number: 1362 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, September 10, 2003 - 1:10 am: | |
Guys, remember it's gotta have all 12 rooms infront of the kitchen, if there's either 6 or 8 rooms behind the kitchen, it's not really a "beach house," but, like you said, Rob, a cottage, and God knows , a cottage just isn't a beach house (even though the same contractor built it). |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6214 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 11:11 pm: | |
LOL DES. Not like there's anything wrong with a "cottage", but it's just not a "house". I mean the orginal builder badged them as a "cottage" even though they used the same materials, workers, and blueprint as "houses" they built.  |
DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 6164 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2003 - 6:33 pm: | |
Does it have at least 12 rooms; you can't call it (or badge it) a 'Beach House' unless there's 12 rooms.  |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2930 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 2:01 pm: | |
Jim, for commercial flights you can fly into Bay County International Airport which is about 40 miles away. For private general aviation planes you can fly into Apalachicola which is about 20 miles away. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 2509 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 1:16 pm: | |
Rob, I thought the motto was: 'It only matter IF you drive a 6, 8, or 12!' Frank, where do you fly into to get there? |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2929 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 1:13 pm: | |
A tattoed sodomite with a modified Dino with Ferrari badges is fine with me as long as his/her credit card is good. |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 735 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 1:11 pm: | |
Hey, I'll bet they can do some tatoos during the convention also.  |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6191 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:09 pm: | |
No, it's... "Size doesn't matter, it's how you drive the 6 or 8" |
DL (Darth550)
Junior Member Username: Darth550
Post Number: 234 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 12:06 pm: | |
Rob. Isn't their motto...Out of the closet and into the garage? Thats the ticket! DL |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 918 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:54 am: | |
Does this place have the all of the original furniture with it and no modifications  |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 6188 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:52 am: | |
I've been looking for a place to hold the 2004 Annual Gay Dino Owners convention. Thanks for the heads up.  |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Advanced Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2925 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, September 08, 2003 - 11:49 am: | |
Rent my Cape San Blas, Florida beach house and mention Ferrari Chat and get a 10% discount. www.capesanblasvacation.com |