| Author | Message | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1042 Registered: 6-2002 |
911 Fan, I thought the '98 NSX-T I drove had plenty of power actually (felt a tad quicker than a 348, and not much off pace of an F355!) Engine was a bit TOO torquey for my tastes, didn't encourage me to bounce off the limiter as it felt like it lost steam as the revs grew past 5500. Also, and I hate to say it, but it didn't inspire much confidence, and it did bore me a bit in the end. Awesome cars though, a true exotic in this man's opinion. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Intermediate Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 1041 Registered: 6-2002 |
Standard Boxster is pretty slow and wallow, but the S is an awesome car, no questions. Perfect for carving up the PCH, and reliable enough to do so withought thinking about it. I found myself liking it more than I thought I would (and more than most 911s I've driven too.) It's really a fine driver's car, and seriously under-rated in my opinion. Engine note is a little lower than I like, but most Porsches are such. Best! Ben. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1081 Registered: 12-2001 |
Mojo, I love the G35 coupe. Fantastic looking car and a nice driver as well. I think it has a bargain price for what you get. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1675 Registered: 12-2001 |
For an open-top cheap car with tons of character, why not an old(er) Morgan? (They are easy to work on, and parts are fairly cheap, too). Then again, if you are interested in modern performance or reliability,... | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 343 Registered: 9-2002 |
O.K. Here it is what do you guys think?  | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1324 Registered: 8-2001 |
Mojo, the seats in the Infinti are really not usable whatsoever. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 342 Registered: 9-2002 |
TC that camaro is not mine. Mine had no stripes. but I loved that pic. I have thought about the 350, But I do like the idea of 4 seats, so maybe the G35 coupe, same thing basicly. I will try to find a picture. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1322 Registered: 8-2001 |
1/4 mile is identical, 14.1, as is the 0-60 for the 3.0. The M-Roadster with 240 hp is 0-60 in 5.2 and 13.9 1/4. The 315 hp is 4.5 and 13.1, watch out F355/550! You can get a used M-Roadster (2001, the 315hp version) for the same price as a 350Z. | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 131 Registered: 8-2003 |
The 350z isn't faster than a z3? What are the 0-60 times/top speed? That's surprising, although I had the feeling the 350 was heavy (decided not to test drive, high pressure dealer...). I think the 350 looks darn good in black though. -R | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1321 Registered: 8-2001 |
Before we got the Z3 we seriously looked at the 350z and were REALLY disappointed: 1. The interior (if that matters to you) feels really cheap. 2. Stereo is crap- whats the saying? "No high, no lows, It's gotta be Bose." 3. Not faster then the Z3. 4. Trunk isn't usable at all (although the BMW isn't either) It was fun to drive but it felt pretty heavy. | ||
| t szutz (Roentgen)
New member Username: Roentgen Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2003 |
The boxster is one of few cars, I suspect a ferrari is the same, that wants to go faster than I want or is prudent. A quality of joy and abandon that few cars have, a personal, soul stirring experience. How does one place a monetary value of that. After a hard day how can a rush of adrenaline be measured in cost, any price one can afford is OK. Who cares, it makes me feel good and after all is said and done, alittle selfgradification can't be all that bad. Drive the cars you're interested in. Buy the car that speaks to you. I did and bought a boxster. | ||
| Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 524 Registered: 8-2002 |
In my opinion, for the $, the 350z is about the best you can buy right now!! | ||
| Ryan Alexander (Ryalex)
Junior Member Username: Ryalex Post Number: 128 Registered: 8-2003 |
Considered the 350Z? I was looking at that and used Boxsters, but ended up needing 4 seats. If I could have sprung for an M3 conv't, that might have been my choice though... well, aside from a 328. | ||
| Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 505 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mojo. I had one. Here's my 2 cents.... They handle great, look great (although not as nice as the 911 turbo), but didn't leave me satisfied for the dollar to fun ratio. I think the greatest turnoff of a Porsche is the dealer. They are snobby and didn't give me the feeling that they cared about me as a customer. Having owned a Lexus and other luxury cars, I appreciate a good after-the-sale experience. Perhaps it was just that the Boxster was at the bottom of the P-car food chain. Also, dispite the dealer telling you that they "fixed" the problems with previous upgrades, Porsches are notorious for leaking oil from the rear main-seal. In my opinion, there are far too many other cars that can compete with performance that cost less. However, having that P-car emblem always makes the neighborhood look better. | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Member Username: Tec Post Number: 275 Registered: 2-2002 |
Bitchin' Camaro, Mojo. Seriously. | ||
| David Mcguire (Matkat)
Junior Member Username: Matkat Post Number: 87 Registered: 3-2003 |
I had one before the 328 and I genuinely liked it very comfortable,can't really think of anything wrong with,pleanty of room front and back and great economy to, | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 338 Registered: 9-2002 |
Well I really love the new 3 series BMW's in the 2 door or 4 door. The 2 door being my fav. But, yes theres a but. they have such a reputation of a preppy car, and thats not me. As far as the 67 camaro, there ok but I prefer the 69 camaro, I have own three of them. So there is a soft spot there also.  | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1515 Registered: 1-2002 |
I agree with TEC. The boxster, especially the S, is a great car, but I'd buy used. As you can get a clean carrera for new boxster money (that's the cars achilles heel, IMO). Anyway, the one thing I didn't like about the boxster was the vague shifter; compared the latch-like shifter in the s2000, the boxster lost a lot of "feel" with that inconsistency, but otherwise the brakes, steering, feedback, etc. are all phenomenal. Of course the interior and the appointments are all head & shoulders above it's competitors, but with the money you pay, you'd expect that; lastly, for such a small car, it's actually got a very large cabin, and being 6'3" 215 and broad in the shoulders, I found it to be one of the most comfortable cars I've been in to date (I hardly fit comfortably in any ferrari). And, about the said lack of bravado that the boxster might convey; perhaps those truely concerned with being macho all day everyday should super glue their hand to the crotch (you know, to make sure you've still got your brass), or dangle a jock strap off the rear view. (Although I'm not sure if those wouldn't pose conflicting intimations.) | ||
| Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts)
Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 110 Registered: 9-2003 |
I had a 2002 Boxster for a year & loved it. It gave me a new appreciation for convertables. I loved the open air. The only thing I regret is buying it new and not getting an S. If I had it to do over again, for the same price, I would have bought a used S model. I sold it to my brother 2 months ago so that I could get my dream car - A Ferrari. I loved the boxster also! | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1313 Registered: 8-2001 |
Frank, I searched ALL summer for a clean 944 Turbo in my area- couldn't find one I liked unfortunately.. Beautiful cars. | ||
| Frank Wiedmann (Frankieferrari)
Member Username: Frankieferrari Post Number: 428 Registered: 8-2003 |
Not everyone is always into speed. (didn't say that I wasn't) but... Years ago,I owned a Porsche 944-the "disposable Porsche",or so the snobby little "purists" would say. Anyway,I didn't give a rats ass about what "purists" thought,and bought one. The car was an absolute BLAST! Little car,5 speed.Handled good. Peppy.-No,not fast. But,maybe I should have gotten a turbo model. Didn't matter,really. I had alot of fun in that car,and would really reccommend one to any young guy who doesn't want the same old,same old jap stuff,that EVERYONE ELSE has. And,wants to express some individuality. I am sure that there are alot of ways to squeeze more power out of one,if thats what you think you need. But,all in all,a really FUN car. Never drove a Boxster(I own an '81 308,and a '91 'vette) But,I bet that they are just as fun to drive as my old 944 was. | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Member Username: Tec Post Number: 271 Registered: 2-2002 |
I absolutely loved the Boxster that I owned for two years. Whether or not you'll like it depends on what you're looking for in a car. As mentioned, there are a lot of cars out there that are cheaper and faster in a straight line. This car is about finesse, not about straight line acceleration. The biggest strength of the Boxster was the perfectly balanced, crisp handling. The communication from car to driver is excellent, the best of any car I've driven in this price range. The power is lacking, but the reality is that it has more than enough power to get you into trouble on public roads. This car needs to be driven in the high rev range if you want it to move. For spirited driving I would never run the car below 4000 rpm. For daily driving I would never run the car below 3000 rpm. If you're seriously considering a Boxster you should definitely check out http://www.ppbb.com/board/986board.htm. The BMW 3-series is a great handling sedan. The Boxster is a fantastic handling sports car. I don't understand that comparison. Borrow a Boxster and go drive some twisty roads or a race track. If you can't tell the difference then I agree the 3 series would be the better car for you. FWIW I just got a new 911 and IMHO the Boxster is a better handling car than the 911. Regarding the chick car, homosexual car, secretary car comments: if you buy cars to impress people who make silly generalizations such as those, this is not the car for you. Get the 67 Camaro, but make sure if you go to the track that there are no Boxsters in your run group or you'll really feel silly. | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Intermediate Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 1005 Registered: 11-2001 |
Wife's been trying to decide on a "toy". She likes the C5 Corvette Coupe , the Maserati Cambiocorsa Spyder, and the Jaguar XK8 Convertible....but she doesn't care for the Porsche Boxster at all. Even tried to talk her into test driving a friend of mine's Tiptronic Boxster -- flat out, was not interested. Soooo, I guess not all women are into the Boxster thing. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1311 Registered: 8-2001 |
I have the 3.0L Z3 and love it, no complaints at all besides the occasionally leaking top. Notes on the car: -Extremely fast (kills the Boxster)- and if you got it in the M-Roadster form, kills the Boxster S -The trunk is beyond small. -Seats are really comfortable w/ the sports package -Stereo is good -Great sounding engine, I personally prefer it to the Boxster -Very windy w/ the top down, you have to get the screen behind your head to understand what the passenger is saying -Not great in the rain, very easy to lose it (although I haven't yet). Overall, great car- I'm very happy with it. | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 511 Registered: 2-2003 |
Joe, I have the 350Z roadster......love it! I also test drove the Boxter....the Z is more comfortable, quicker, and cheaper.....top is fully auto, stows under a hard teaneu cover, easy to super-charge and has many options for 1/2 price of boxter.....S2000 is also nice, but I don't like the way it looks.......Road and Track did a "shoot out" of the convertibles........S2000, ranked 1..."Z" ranked 2, BMW Z3 ranked 3, Boxter 4 and Miata 5.........For an everyday car, fast fun and tossable, I love my Z. | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 351 Registered: 12-2002 |
Joseph, The VW Bug is only SLIGHTLY less gay than the Boxster. For minimal gay association, I suggest a 67 Camaro or the like. On a serious note, I have driven some Boxsters and while they are nice, refined, and handled well, they were sorely lacking in power (I drove an "S") and they were sorely bloated in price. My .02. I've had the pleasure of driving a lot of cars and a Boxster has nothing a BMW 3-series doesn't have, and the 3 has a back seat, is more comfortable and overall a nicer car. All IMO of course, but there are never facts in decisions like this. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 337 Registered: 9-2002 |
Well I guess the Boxster is out. Mike B said its a woman's or gay person's car. I don't fit that discription so I will have to rethink this. How about a new VW bug? | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 906 Registered: 10-2001 |
Boxsters are the most common car on Fort Lauderdale Beach. Its become a very nice area (no longer a spring break town) and this is clearly the peoples popular choice. | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 350 Registered: 12-2002 |
Boxsters are GREAT cars. If you're a woman. Or a gay man. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1076 Registered: 12-2001 |
Bruce, no trouble  I can barely tell the difference in P-cars anymore myself, lol | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2199 Registered: 11-2002 |
The Boxster S is a lot of fun. This really is one of those cars that drives a lot better than what the figures suggest. Cheers | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3132 Registered: 4-2002 |
EASY TYLER...I ALLOWED "ANT" TO POST HERE...HES MY KID BUT GIVE HIM HELL REGARDS, BRUCE | ||
| AnT (Tormentor)
New member Username: Tormentor Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sry, my bad Tyler. But my opinion on the boxster still stands~ | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1075 Registered: 12-2001 |
Bob, LOL AnT, in "Duece Bigalow" they featured a silver 911 cabriolet not the boxster. | ||
| Kds (Kds)
Junior Member Username: Kds Post Number: 248 Registered: 5-2003 |
Secretaries car. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1553 Registered: 3-2001 |
I was going to say the design of the Boxster is getting a bit dated... I believe model year 2004 will be the 8th year of production. But this is Porsche... and if the Boxster is anything like the 911, it still has at least 32 years of production before they change the basic body design. | ||
| t szutz (Roentgen)
New member Username: Roentgen Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2003 |
Love my boxster S, have had it for 2 years. Zero upkeep except for yearly oil change and new tires. Have approx 15,000 miles on it. | ||
| AnT (Tormentor)
New member Username: Tormentor Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2003 |
Alright. I myself fancied the porsche boxter when they showed it in "Deuce Bigalo Male Gigilo" however now they are so common you see them everywhere you turn. The boxster is the poor man's porsche so dont get excited. It still is a nice car but I would prefer the 911. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1482 Registered: 10-2001 |
Boxster S : Great car ! Love them , perfect handling and decent power to have fun on the track.. | ||
| 911 Fan (911fan)
Junior Member Username: 911fan Post Number: 64 Registered: 5-2003 |
Nebula, If you think the Porsche logo costs too much, you should see what they get for the Ferrari logo! | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 580 Registered: 11-2002 |
In my humble opinion, it ain't worth half of what it costs. The non "S" is a weak mule, no faster than a Mitsubishi Eclipse. The "S", while powerful, is WAAAAAY overpriced for the performance offered. Essentially, you're paying for the Porsche logo. Why not take a look at a 2003 Mustang Cobra? Now THAT's a car. 4-wheel independent suspension, a 4 valve, DOHC V8 with a supercharger making 390hp. Amazing brakes, great handling and steering, and all for $36k. Go drive a Boxster S, and hen drive a 2003 Cobra. There is no competition AT ALL, and it's $20k less. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 904 Registered: 10-2001 |
I have played in 4 cars in this class- Boxster, NSX, BMWz3M, Honda S2000 Honda S2000 too small crampped. 2004 will be a hair bigger inside and faster. Good read about wild ride with car's design engineer in www.autoweek.com this week. Limits in cornering are very impressive with 04 car. BMW Z3m with 333HP $34k was most fun. You sit very high and back end is short, so feels like a 50-60's style open-air motoring. 94 NSX for $35k had the best handeling. Felt like a F1 car, but eats soft tires. Boxster didn't win any one catogory, but maybe felt like best if looking for an all-around car in this class. Plus you get the Porsche status. I'd like to drive the 350Z to see how that stacks up? | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1074 Registered: 12-2001 |
Dan You can supercharge a boxster for not too much money. I believe at least one Fchat member has done this. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 335 Registered: 9-2002 |
You know I forgot about the 350Z that is a pretty cool car. About the nsx don't get me wrong I like them just not enough to pay that much, even used there a lot. anyhow speed is not what Im after, If it was I would buy a ZO6. Now theres some power that doesn't cost a lot and can be repaired buy the average mechanic. Also Im sure to replace the shocks would NOT cost 4k. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1052 Registered: 9-2002 |
Yea thats why I brought it up, I looked at both and the NSX was a no comparison. But hey, if you like something, you like something...I mean thats kinda why we have Ferraris..so what if something is better? We like what we like. | ||
| Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member Username: Ferruccio Post Number: 251 Registered: 2-2003 |
Is there anything you can do to give them a little more power cheaply. Just think they could use a little more power. Also isn't the new 350z have about the same peformance at around half the price. | ||
| 911 Fan (911fan)
Junior Member Username: 911fan Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2003 |
Joseph, "I have always felt like japanese sports cars are to perfect i.e. Boring." Have you ever driven an NSX? It's not perfect (it could use more power) and it's definitely not boring! But getting back to your question, if you're looking for the best driving experience at that price point, the Boxster S is hard to beat. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6904 Registered: 8-2002 |
Joseph, a friend of mine let me drive his Boxster convertible a few months ago; if i had the car for, let's say a weekend, i'd be able to give you more of an opinion... However, just from the short time i was in it, i can tell you that it was a blast...! It's the first and only Porsche i've ever driven (or even ridden in for that matter) and i was very impressed... i've always liked Porsche and always thought it was underrated... When the Boxster was released, i figured it was something like a low-level sports car when i saw the price... Then i drove it. That drive confirmed that Porsche is definitely underrated... The acceleration in the "lowly" Boxster was awesome but i'm not sure if it was that or the steering that impressed me the most... The steering on that car was just so precise, i had to actually slow down and reconsider my whole approach to the drive... Very nice car... | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1051 Registered: 9-2002 |
I was just playing around. Just make sure that you go for S if possible, as the standard is quite slow. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1073 Registered: 12-2001 |
I like them. It suprised me that I did as I don't really care for the looks but they are a nice little car. The S version has a little more ooommmphhh and I like the way the 18 inch wheels look on the S. No too fast or quick but a nice handling car. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1050 Registered: 9-2002 |
Oh I almost forgot a very important one...they dont look like frogs either... | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 334 Registered: 9-2002 |
You may be right, but I have always felt like japanese sports cars are to perfect i.e. Boring. Just my view, | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1049 Registered: 9-2002 |
NSX are better cheaper and faster. More reliable... did I mention faster?...more comfortable..shall I go on? | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
Member Username: Mojo Post Number: 333 Registered: 9-2002 |
Thinking about one. What do you think of them? Don't compare it to a supercar, just for itself. |