| Author | Message | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 594 Registered: 4-2003 |
VW's involvement with the actual race cars of Audi goes about as far as Fiat's involvement with the Ferraris... The Bentley is the Audi Coupe which was deemed less competitive than the open version (and Audi was right, proven by the string of wins). Funny memory came back to mind.... In 2001 Lavaggi won the Monza 1000 KM race in a 333SP with a Judd engine! Not a bad move as he probably wouldn't have made it with the original engine... I still have the next day's "Gazetta dello Sport" somewhere with the headline "Lavaggi vince con una Ferrari sacrilega" or "Lavaggi wins with a sacrileged Ferrari"... Fun! Jack P.S. First three places went to Judd-engined cars that year. | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 277 Registered: 2-2003 |
There should be. VW owns both Audi and Bentley. And Skoda, SEAT and other minor car manufacturers. So a win by either Audi or Betley is a win for VW as well. Anyway, those Audi cars running are technically privateer teams, as Audi has 'retired' from Le Mans since they have nothing to prove anymore. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 547 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>>Don't you mean Volkswagen? Nope... there is no VW involvement with the Bentley other than financial. The Bentley is basically the Audi coupe in slightly more developped form. Jack | ||
| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 273 Registered: 2-2003 |
Yes, Audi rules again (regardless of brandname...). Don't you mean Volkswagen? | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 539 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>>Bentley on top! Yes, Audi rules again (regardless of brandname...). ;-) Jack | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 418 Registered: 11-2002 |
Bentley on top! My dad will be very pleased... | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 524 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>>My car still has the dent in the tub that Bruce made when he threw down his helmut and ran to retrieve the tail that had blown off on the Mulsanne. Oh how I love those things! Jack | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1308 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jack It's J6. J5 is the Foyt/Gurney car. There was confusion for a while that I cleared up with records, race reports, and physical inspection. The latest GT40 books have corrected that error. My car still has the dent in the tub that Bruce made when he threw down his helmut and ran to retrieve the tail that had blown off on the Mulsanne. Best Jim | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 522 Registered: 4-2003 |
Jim, it it J5? I GREATLY admire your taste in historic automobiles (he said with a little envy... ;-) ) Jack | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1302 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jack Mines #2 Finished 4thOA Donohue/Mclaren.  | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 518 Registered: 4-2003 |
P.S. I have seen your MK-IV here before but didn't pay too much attention (saw it in front of Bill Hart's place) but which MK-IV is it exactly? Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 517 Registered: 4-2003 |
Jim, very true about the paint. If I am not mistaken, Carlo Abarth, who was a fierce opponent of "weight", refused to have the undersides of any of his cars painted or undercoated as that was just "superfluous mass that wants to go straight on instead of around a bend" hence so many of those lovely Fiat 500, 600 and 850 based Abarths that have rusted away. If you REALLY want to find out what times your MK-IV could turn on the full current Le Mans circuit, it would be possible to enter it in the next "Le Mans Classic" which, if everything goes well, will be held next year. It's a GREAT nostalgic event that last 24 hours although the field is split up in "age" groups which run races of 40 minutes, come in and the next group goes out for a 40 minute race etc. That way, every group gets to race 4 times during the 24 hours and also races at night etc. Last years event was a HUGE success and you would be racing against guys like Nick Mason, Mark Knopfler and Alain de Cadenet. The classic event for this year is only Formula cars and saloon cars and in a different format. So, maybe by next year the P4 could be ready as well and you could enter them both the P4 and the MK-IV and pitch them against eachother.... Jack www.ExperienceLeMans.com (Couldn't resist a small sponsor link... Hehehehe) | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1299 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jack What you said about the paint is very true. In the 60ies the paint was so thin on many race cars than it was more of a wash than a paint. It's interesting to note the lap times you posted. 36 years ago my MK-IV turned a 3:22 faster than the Audi's or the Bentley's do today. The course of course has been changed since 67, two chicanes have been added to the Mulsanne for example, however it's still interesting to note. I wonder what my MK-IV could turn on the new course... | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 513 Registered: 4-2003 |
A little fun fact from the Spyker pits... Last year they ran the car mainly in bare aluminum. This year, they actually have a sponsor... Orange (Mobile Telephone Network) and orange also happens to be the Dutch national (racing) color and Spyker is Dutch of course. Adding the orange paint scheme to the car added 15 KGS (!) or some 30+ Lbs of weight to the car! Hahahahahaha! Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 403 Registered: 4-2003 |
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| MFZ (Kiyoharu)
Junior Member Username: Kiyoharu Post Number: 233 Registered: 2-2003 |
Where can I see the full results? I'd like to see where the F-cars are slotted when compared to their rivals (Porsches in GT and Corvettes in GTS). | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 401 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Dave, I hope ours will be ready soon... We SHOULD have some nice close-ups. Jack | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1409 Registered: 1-2002 |
Nice photos, Jack! Thanks!!! :D | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 398 Registered: 4-2003 |
And some more:           | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 397 Registered: 4-2003 |
Photo's courtesy of the ACO (our own to follow):             | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 393 Registered: 4-2003 |
Quite some surprises, especially in the top 3! 1) Bentley Kristensen/Capello/Smith 3.34.820 2) Audi Ara/Magnussen/Werner 3.38.3.85 3) Bentley Brabham/Blundell/Herbert 3.38.769 6) Dome Judd Lammers/Bosch(yes, John Bosch)/Wallace 3.41.545 19) Veloqx Prodrive Ferrari Davies/Enge/Kox 3.57.180 23) Veloqx Prodive Ferrari Burt/Davidson/Turner 3.58.185 24) Luc Alphand Ferrari Alphand/Dor/Policand 3.58.785 39) Risi Ferrari Kelleners/Lazarro 4.13.583 41) Risi Ferrari Mowlen/Lewis/Leitzinger 4.16.777 43) JMB Ferrari Terrien/De Simone 4.17.798 54) XL Racing Ferrari Le Soudier/Barde/Ferte 4.28.749 Pictures to follow soonest. Jack |