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arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2029
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
Bob:
I haven't figured out how to get enough money to buy something that goes over 300 kts. When I figure that out, I'll get one. The closest I could get would be an older C500SP, but the cost of operation of something like that would be over 15k per month, and since the Baron does 95% of what I need, and only costs 5k per month to run, I can't see spending another 120k per year for that 5%. Maybe I'll get one of those mass tort cases, settle it quickly, and get the plane: right, not to likely.
Art |
Robert Callahan (Rcallahan)
Junior Member
Username: Rcallahan
Post Number: 236
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2003 - 12:38 am: | |
Marty!!!
I have nerves of steel and cat like reflexes, I can handle it!
Art, I've flown all over the world and only turned on the wing heat once or twice. Once you get over 300 kts, the ice just melts away!
Bob |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2018
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 9:44 pm: | |
Just talked to the guy who brought the plane back. Seems he had about 1 1/2 hours of light ice. didn't have to use the boots, but me being such a chicken, I'd have turned back.
Martin:
I need to talk to you soon, need an Oregon address. I'll give you a call in a couple of weeks. Hope things are well. Why aren't you flying down for the weekend of the 11th? If you would I'd give you a ride back in the Baron, since I'm going to Vancouver on the 14th. I know you don't like to fly, but just this once?
Art |
martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mw575
Post Number: 1062
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 9:39 pm: | |
Glad you are OK ,Art.Sounds more harrowing than driving with Bob Callahan in his 355!! |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2014
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 5:44 pm: | |
Byron;
That's what I get for taking a trip without enough time to wait out the weather. The Baron is de-iced, but I'm a big chicken when it comes to icing, even with the equipment. While I've owned the Baron for about 15 years, I've only HAD to use the boots to remove ice 2 times, and both were on the way to and from Europe in 1999, and there wasn't any choice. I never go where I suspect ice, and even if only light ice is forecast, I don't go. This time, there was light ice, and I didn't have to use the boots on the way to Sitka, but I didn't like it one bit.
It was fun, and it did show that if I'm forced, I can get it done.
Art |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2013
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 5:41 pm: | |
I'd take the following route:
SFO, SGD Maxwell, RDD, oln, yyu, ann, lvd, pajnu.
That should work and would be the best flight plan up there, and the most direct.
Art |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1429
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 1:55 pm: | |
That sounds pretty hair raising! What is the ceiling for the Beech Baron (assuming thats what you fly)?
Alaska flying is tricky! Ive done quite a bit of it in the sim, although Im sure its not as challenging as in real life. In fact, Im taking a trip this weekend with the sim (737-500) from KSFO-KSEA-PAKT-PAJN-PASI and finally to Anchorage. Should be fun 
Im in the process of planning the routes now but only have the first few legs done (although it might change depending on weather, STARS, and so on).
For SFO-SEA:
KSFO.CUIT2.RBL.FJS.UBG.OLM3.KSEA
For SEA-PAKT:
KSEA.BANGR2.TOU.J523.YZT.J502.PAKT
How does that routing look?
Sorry to kidnap the thread guys |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 864
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 1:48 pm: | |
what an ordeal, Art. Glad you made it through ok. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2008
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 1:40 pm: | |
On the way back from Alaska, despite the FAA telling me that there was no forecast for icing, there indeed was ice in the clouds. We left Juneau for Sita, and Ketchikan, and with the cloud tops at 16,000, could not get above the icing conditions. The freezing level was 7000, and the minimum in route altitude was 8000, putting us in the ice the entire trip. When we got to Sita (about 30 minutes from Juneau, we decided we'd go under the clouds. Sita had cloud bases at 3000' with 10 miles of visibility. The forecasted weather at Ketchikan was 2000 with 8 miles visibility. The forecast never indicated that the visibility enroute would be less than 3 miles, nor a lower ceiling than 2000'.
I decided to make the trip entirely over water, and although that lenghtened the trip, it proved a wise decision. In route, there were areas that were 3, 4 miles of visibility, with cloud bases of 1200', marginal VFR.
When we got to Ketchikan, the weather was nowhere near what the forecast predicted: 800 and about 1 mile visibility in rain showers, although to the side there was the legal 3 miles. There was an intrument approach, but I choice to go in VFR. It was interesting to say the least, and something I'll not repeat.
I made the decision to leave the plane there, come back commercial, and when the weather cleared to fly back up to get the plane. The FBO (Fixed base operator) while putting the plane in the hanger, damaged the nose gear (nothing serious, but it did require one part to be replaced). There was no one there who worked on Beech, so they ultimately had to fly my mechanic up with the part, and he repaired the plane.
Art |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1415
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:01 am: | |
If you dont mind Art, Id love to hear the story as well! |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member
Username: Art355
Post Number: 2002
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:41 pm: | |
Got the plane back from Alaska. Probably going to fly in. I'll tell the story at the party.
Art |
Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
Member
Username: Gagatep
Post Number: 334
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 3:27 pm: | |
I'll attend for the Saturday Lunch 12 to 4
I'm not going to do the Vegas
For the SB and Solvang
here's a suggestion:
From Vegas to Solvang area
on the way pass by and visit
Willow Springs International Raceway
We have half the day for open wheel
Formula type cars and the other
half for driving the track with
our own cars.
|
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 834
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 27, 2003 - 1:59 pm: | |
For those of you that are traveling from out of town and would like a place to stay in the Pasadena area, we have a negotiated rate with the Holiday Inn Express on 3500 Colorado Blvd. (A very generous FChatter is also the owner and is offering Ferrari Driving Club members a discounted rate for this event)
$49/night for a 2 bed suite with breakfast.
Please contact me if you require reservations.
[email protected]
Thanks! |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 815
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 3:12 pm: | |
A tip for hotels... Downtown Hyatt Regency has room rates of $89 for Friday 7/11. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1306
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 11:14 am: | |
Tom, I have a big German flag... |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3920
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 7:04 am: | |
does any one have a union jack and maybe a german falg that we can carry ins procession for Jens and Amar? |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member
Username: The_don
Post Number: 5432
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 9:01 am: | |
Jonas in the house? |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3893
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:58 pm: | |
Duh!!! sorry about that, just missed the thread. |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 801
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:37 pm: | |
Tom, here is one of them. Email to follow..l.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/167223/272338.html?1056126671
Looking forward to seeing you there!
Byron |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3887
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 1:03 pm: | |
has the formal announcment been made for the Sat launch? |
"The Carbon" (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member
Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4708
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 4:08 pm: | |
i'm so excited... it's all i think about... i'm just gonna explode if i don't get out there, soon... Just thinking about it makes me dizzy... i need help. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3881
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
only a few weeks away |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3864
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 10:34 am: | |
I am coming into John wayne at around 8pm, I have a rental and since I am crashing at my brothers, I do need to spend a few minutes there other than sleeping I figure fri night is the best to do the brotherly quality time. |
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Member
Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 519
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 9:59 am: | |
TomD, What airport are you flying into and what is your arrival time?
You can ride with me for any drive that DES is driving with someone else (except I am not planning to drive to LV on Sat night). There will be plenty of other seats available also I'm sure.
We all look forward to you, DES and Martin (and any others that I missed) coming out for the weekend.
Ron |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3862
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 9:54 am: | |
I am all set to arrive Fri night ( will prob not go to Fri activities) but will be all set sat am - I need info on where to be and how to get there, also anyone taking reservations for a weekend passenger on the drives |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1241
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 1:38 pm: | |
Thanks for clearing that up Byron. For some reason I thought there was a drive on Saturday along with the party. Either way Ill try and be there!
Any news on the FDC website? |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 771
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 1:30 pm: | |
As of now, there isn't a drive planned for Saturday 7/12. We will all be meeting at the venue for a FDC launch party from 12-4... music, food, drinks, giveaways from sponsors, FDC Launch information, and best of all, everyone and their awesome cars!!
Vegas is on for sure.
Jordan - if you can make both sat and sun, that would be great! With or w/o the 'stang, your attendance is greatly appreciated. Sunny, your "co-pilot" will be up for it... I promise that! The sunday drive (it's been a while since we've had one, eh?)... should be spectacular.
DETAILS ARE FORTHCOMING. KEEP POSTED!! (We will send out official invitations, details early/middle next week!) |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1236
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
Ill probably be at both Sat and Sun drives. Ill probably take my brother on the Saturday drive and stay in the Mustang...unless we can get rides. For sunday I might be by myself |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member
Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 590
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 7:52 pm: | |
I plan to do all of them... My passenger might not be up for the Sunday drive after we get back from Vegas, but I know I'd like to if we get back early enough. I'll be joining the festivities late Friday night if any are going on. I couldn't get the day off, but they'll give me Monday.
Sunny |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member
Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 766
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 6:15 pm: | |
Matt and I were just talking about this crazy plan this morning...haha
Friday night out is pretty much at the liberty of the individuals...
Sat Launch Party is a MUST GO...12-4p
Sat Vegas is after the party - probably a smaller group of 10-20 cars (overnighter)
Sun Drive to SB/Solvang is on as of now...
I don't plan to do everything... neither I nor my car can handle it, I don't think...LOL! We'll probably have some people split up depending on overall interest. |
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Member
Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 490
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 5:16 pm: | |
Byron, do I understand the plan correctly?
Friday night out on the town
Saturday drive and other stuff
Saturday to LV
Sunday return to LA
Sunday Santa Barbara/Solvang drive
Are all of these pieces in the plan? Do you or anyone plan to do all of them?
I'm dizzy and tired already just thinking about it. |
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