| Author | Message | ||
| Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 499 Registered: 4-2003 |
>> I was as polite as possible, but refused to give in to the interrogation, and ultimately took a ticket for the missing front plate<< William, following the suggestion of someone else on this board, I went and had a color copy of my front plate made. I then had it laminated. Next, I got some cut and paste velcro and stuck the "plate" on the speed bra. Don't know if it is fully legal (Texas just passed a weird law that a license plate bracket cannot obscure the words Texas or Lone State Star.) But, I bet that I'll be able to jawbone it pass any trooper. Hate giving dose coppers a chance to roust me! Good Luck | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1694 Registered: 12-2001 |
I have k-40 laser jambos front and back (the front one is in a box that looks like the EZ Pass device here in NY), along with a stealth mounted Valentine (the display is in the rear view and the box is hidden). I got stopped the other day for not displaying my front plate, and spent about a half-hour being interrogated about these boxes; we reached the happy conclusion that they were "data collection" devices and when hooked up to the proper computer/telemetry equipment, would enable me to download specific info about the dynamic performance of the car. The Trooper seemed sure that these were illegal, and after consultation with another Trooper (who drove up to the scene), they posed the question whether i was mistaken, and that i simply had front and rear EZ Pass emitters. Man, these guys are morons. I was as polite as possible, but refused to give in to the interrogation, and ultimately took a ticket for the missing front plate. I then got stopped about ten minutes later by another state pooper. When he approached the car, i said: "Hey Officer, if this is about the front plate, i already got pulled over about 5 minutes ago by one of your brethren...". No, said he. You were speeding. (allegedly). At least he didn't write me up. But now, i'm going to put EZPass Stickers on the laser jammers. As for a front plate, well.... | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 628 Registered: 4-2001 |
The "punch through" zone limitation can be defeated by using an onboard Jethro system to scifer the correct speed when switching to ot goes into ot mode. Thus creating a null in the jamer. | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 176 Registered: 8-2003 |
Dave, get a clue! Everyone knows the Rocky Mountain Phazer includes a "math jammer" multi burst mode. This works at all times except in the "punch through" zone. | ||
| Dave (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 626 Registered: 4-2001 |
Most good troopers don't need laser/radar to know when your speeding, just a set of points and a little math. | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 539 Registered: 2-2003 |
DORK!  There really is such thing as a punch through zone! It is described below. On pulse radar (k,x,ka superwide and instant on) when it is shot from a radar gun, it comes out in cone shape, the further it goes, the wider and weaker the signal gets. Punch-through is when the signal being relected off the car is equal in strength to the scrambling strength. Again, I'm not a physicist....but it does make some sense! Good luck using it in conversational english today! I did find Mike Charness's article (Attached below, on his thread) very informative. However, it is now 7 years old and I wonder if still pertinent. ps. I really did mean it when I said thanks for the laugh! | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 172 Registered: 8-2003 |
fanatic - nothing meant by it. Trying to have a little fun. I could probably retire now if I didnt buy half the crap I have that doesn't / never worked. Throw in the stuff that works that I bought but never used and I would be retired driving an Enzo. Who the hell knows you have beautiful red ferrari with no tickets - perhaps it is jamming your speedometer and you are really only going 12 mph. "Punch through zone" - you gotta love it though! I am going to try to use that term at least 3 times today in various situations. | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 538 Registered: 2-2003 |
Wow Mike, Geez, gobs of sarcasm........anyway, I did purchase the Phazer approx 1 year ago for 99.00 dollars......not too much, even if it doesn't work, at that price who cares....or if it only works once, I'm fine......anyway, I was just stating what the owners manual said....I said a couple of times I wasn't an expert on the subject matter, but was only relaying information. The "punch through" zone does make some sense to me, since I know about the punch zone as far as picking planes or missles on radar there is a distance at which they are too close and travelling at high enough speed to pick them up accruately after they pass a certain distance........anyway, thanks for the laugh | ||
| mike550 (Mikeg)
Junior Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 171 Registered: 8-2003 |
fanatic - if there are lights and everything on the unit it must be working! You may not know this but there is an optional upgrade feature that now jams Phlazer and Gamma 2 radar from planes and police spaceships. I have the special firmware upgrade "ecu" which will upgrade units over the internet. To upgrade your unit, please hold your unit up to the screen next to this sequence of characters and hard boot the unit (e.g. power on while holding the mute key): TIHSLLUB SI NIATNUOM YKCOR Your unit should now be upgraded my friend. This upgrade is on the house - you have already paid enough. Good luck with the new functionality and let me know how it works! FYI - there is no "punch through zone" with the Gamma 2 radar from police space ships. If you get any tickets from a police space ship Rocky Mountain will refund 200% of the ticket cost! To register for this ticket refund program you simply pick up the phone and dial 1 800 SPACETX and yell "Spacecadet" into the phone. This number is set up with voice recognition and you will automatically be registered. (oh and you didn't get this upgrade from me - it is illegal on 5 planets but ok here on Earth.) | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 537 Registered: 2-2003 |
My phazer by Rocky Mountain has seemed to work fine.........It jams laser well. The instructions do tell you that with Radar there is a "punch through" zone.....meaning that if the Radar is farther than 100 yards, it will "jam" the radar effectively. Closer than 100 yards and you are in the "punch through zone" so it will not work. The idea is if you are that close, you should have already seen the cop. I don't know if it works or not, but I have it on all the time, and I have approached cops while I'm doing 100+, once I've seen them 200 or 300 yards out I slow down, best I can, but I hanven't recieved any tickets yet..........the Phazer is illegal in 12 or 13 states........not in Ohio.........again, don't know if it works or not, I could just be lucky. Also, the directions that come with it, state that if you go by one of those "neighborhood speed signs"...you know the kind that say "Your Speed" and flash it up on the big screen....it can't jam those because there is no "relay signal, or no "computer thingee"...same thing with "baseball radar guns".....they work on a different kind of signal than the cops radar gun......this is what it says in the Rocky Mtn. instruction booklet, I know my explanation is kind of lacking, if you are really interested, I can look at the booklet tonight and tomorrow post verbatim what they say............. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 773 Registered: 6-2002 |
If you are really into jamming, go purchase a baseball radar gun. Leave it in the continuous transmit mode and lay it on your dash. It will create havoc in any radar gun trying to clock cars. I have two baseball radar guns made by Illinois Electronics (marketed under Jugs). Illinois electronics also makes THE SAME GUN for police use. They narrow the beam a bit, that is all. I have tried to read baseballs while the other gun was pointed in my general direction from several hundred yards away. My gun read 999. It does not know what to do with the incoming signal that is not phased with its own internal clock. If you get stopped, you might follow a creative approach mentioned on F-chat. Carry a self addressed envelope with stamps already on it. Stuff the gun in the envelope and lick to seal it. It is a Federal offense to open sealed mail. For what it is worth. Have fun. Jim S. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 851 Registered: 2-2001 |
I had one of those "jammers" I remember when bought it I was talking to the guy on the phone about how I would hook up both my radar detector and the "jammer" he said "why do you need the detector" I hooked both up anyway. A year or so later my cousin became a cop and clocked me with the "jammer" needless to say he got my speed everytime. BTW is was one from Rocky mountain. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Intermediate Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 1133 Registered: 8-2002 |
A couple of articles I did for the FCA News about jammers are posted at www.ferrariclub.com/faq/jammers.html | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 597 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ok, so I just got off the phone with a state trooper buddy and he said that they tested a bunch of jammers in conjunction with a local news organization. He was able to read the correct speed on all cars running jammers - no exceptions. - JMG | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1629 Registered: 9-2002 |
As Dennis mentioned - radar jammers are illegal, and you'll get into a big mess with that one. The best solution is to buy a valentine1, and maybe find an independant laser jammer if you need. The V1 is the key to avoid the ticket. --Dan | ||
| Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member Username: Jimbo Post Number: 130 Registered: 10-2001 |
I installed the K-40 jammer as well as front and rear detectors in the 512TR. The jammer only works with laser. | ||
| Dennis (Bighead)
Member Username: Bighead Post Number: 266 Registered: 2-2003 |
So-called "passive" radar JAMMERS are a HOAX/SCAM/FRAUD, period. All of the Rocky Mountain/Phazer etc. companies sell boxes with a fancy LED or three, and make a promise to pay your ticket. They add some B.S. marketing talk. EVERY SINGLE TEST run by an independent lab or car magazine has stated, flat out, these things are FRAUDS. Even if they DID work, they would be ILLEGAL, as they would be in violation of FCC regulations. There ARE **ACTIVE** radar jammers that DO work, but they are illegal, so are very tough to find to purchase. And not cheap, from the last time I saw one for sale. Do a search of the archives here, using "jammer" as the keyword. Lastly, laser jammers DO work, and are NOT illegal. As for laser detectors, they work as well, but by the time it goes off, the chance of you already being painted and busted is relatively high (compared to detecting radar). The Valentine 1 has built in front and rear laser detection as well as the best radar detection in the bidness. vty, --Dennis | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1115 Registered: 12-2001 |
I use a Valentine and LOVE IT. However I would be very interested in jammer. Active, not passive. | ||
| fanatic (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 534 Registered: 2-2003 |
I have the Phazer radar jammer, with a built in detector.....I'm very happy with it......most members of this board swear by Valentine..... | ||
| Dale W Spradling (Drtax)
Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 481 Registered: 4-2003 |
Coach, did you get your car? If so, you gotta tell us what you think compared to your Daytonas. Did I make a mistake in buying a Mary-nello instead of a Daytona or GTC? thx | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 453 Registered: 5-2002 |
does anyone have experience with a radar jammer...I find radar detectors to be too late to warn you...and does anyone have experience with laser detectors? |