| Author | Message | ||
| chris (Wrench_turner)
New member Username: Wrench_turner Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2002 |
No - it was neither Paul Allen nor Larry Ellison. The guy was pretty laid back, very friendly, but knew nothing about the car. He'd had it trucked directly from Andial where it had been serviced, but the RE71's were on backwards. I asked him if that was supposed to be that way (it just so happens I had RE71's on my MGB at the time) and he didn't know the tires were even directional. He called Andial, they said no, our mistake, switch the tires around before you track the car. He didn't know how to get the wheels off, didn't know there was a special torque wrench for removing the lug, where to find it etc. He pulled out the owners manual and looked it up and said, "wow - you know a lot about this car - could you change the tires around for me?" So I did - the other mechanics were all snickering at me "be careful jacking up that million-dollar car - make sure you hit the jack points..." | ||
| Adam R (Arymarcz)
New member Username: Arymarcz Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, it is. Geez, I didn't think there was a difference! I'm still grinnin' over the MIXX MASTER  | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 130 Registered: 7-2002 |
Adam: is that Larry Ellison CEO of Oracle? What's the difference between Larry Ellison and GOD? God knows he's not Larry Ellison. | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
New member Username: Frankie Post Number: 5 Registered: 8-2002 |
ya i remember those "u.s." spec 959 sports,they were supposed to be for racing only but when they got here customs saw the full interiors with carpets and full leather covered rollcages and they went nuts!!!i think they actually confiscated bill gates car for a little while because apparently someone saw him driving it in seattle.it took many years but now you can import them for "show and display" with a 2500 miles a year limit.btw i think all the sport versions are either guards red or grand prix white.and yes before that otis chandlers red 959 sport was the only one allowed in the country for display in his museum, i think they gave the car a 10 year visa! | ||
| Adam R (Arymarcz)
New member Username: Arymarcz Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hey chris, was this the cool dude with the 959???  | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
New member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2002 |
Will FNA even honor a warranty on a Euro-spec car that is brought over and driven here? This joker claims he can "get them what they want with warranty". | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 337 Registered: 9-2001 |
If he is "selling like crazy", how come there is no current bids on his EBAY sale? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 195 Registered: 8-2002 |
Philip has been IM-ing me ever since I sent him the e-mail. Tells me he's selling cars like crazy. Says he's looking for some 996 Turbos, so I put him in touch with our sales mgr. Let's see if he's for real or not. Actually, he sounds like he's the real deal to me, even if a little funny (Mixx Master!). We'll see. | ||
| Kelly (Tifosi1)
Member Username: Tifosi1 Post Number: 365 Registered: 2-2002 |
I talked to the guy today. his name is Philp and he just moved here(New Orleans) from the north east. He said there is not enough business here so he is moving to the northwest. The car is in Germany! | ||
| Doug Meredith (Doug308)
Junior Member Username: Doug308 Post Number: 190 Registered: 2-2001 |
Still trying to figure out what the purpose of his link pictures are. My guess: An elementary school geography teacher who likes to hang out at shipping yards in New Orleans watching freight being unloaded by big cranes and collects 1/18 scale car models. Anyone else care to guess? | ||
| Doug Meredith (Doug308)
Junior Member Username: Doug308 Post Number: 189 Registered: 2-2001 |
Still trying to figure out what the purpose of his link pictures are. My guess: An elementary school geography teacher who likes to hang out at shipping yards in New Orleans watching freight being unloaded by big cranes and collects 1/18 scale car models. Anyone else care to guess? | ||
| David Prall (Davidpra)
Junior Member Username: Davidpra Post Number: 115 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think that cat watched "Rain Man" too many times. | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
New member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2002 |
I wonder what it's like to live without shame and be willing to humiliate yourself in front of the world... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 190 Registered: 8-2002 |
Chris, like I said, there are other 959's here now after the "Bill Gates" law. I've heard that DOT has actually staked out both Mr. Gates and Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, as they have both brought 959's into the country. Was it Mr. Allen you saw at the track? Anyway, I was curious about this e-bay listing so i sent the guy an e-mail. I think I touched a nerve or two. Here's his response: "Very simple... 1. I have access to inexpensive Ferrari 360 spiders. 2. They are inexpensive to the US, because I don't mark them up 100% 3. I only take a small commission for the coordination of delivery to the US From time of purchase to delivery. Im not selling the Ferraris Im showing people how to get them what they want with warranty CHEAP! Most retail customers dont have the time to handle this process. My total commission is 5k I coordinate everything. 4. Pictures. Well, im only to let people know that there is an actual buisness and a real person to handle this for them. All my friends make fun, so go ahead and throw a FEW PUNCHES. 5. Mixx master. That was a tag I had made for my lotus exige. Just for fun. I have a hobbie of making electronic music. Mixx Master. Hope I answered your questions. Maybe we can do some buisness. Philip Oh, Exige? They are legal in the US! 959 do your homework! unscrupulous? One more thing, so you know that I am for real. take a look at this.... Will be featured in Millionaire Magazine next month. Any more questions that the community might have?" This was followed by a full page ad he has appearing in Millionaire Magazine for the MBenz CLK GTR Roadster. It's too large too post here (and a waste of space) but it looks professional. Oh yeah, and of course it has his picture in it! | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 595 Registered: 2-2001 |
What a dork. | ||
| chris (Wrench_turner)
New member Username: Wrench_turner Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2002 |
Interesting, Wayne. I'm sitting here looking at a picture of Otis Chandler and I don't think that's the guy who came to the track (it was in 1991 and I'm sure the guy with the 959 said he was from San Francisco - the gentileman was probably about 50 and he had a goatee if memory serves. I mostly remember the car!) Anyhow, it was a silver 959L with a blue interior and he had never driven it before, he had it trailered to the track and showed up himself in a black Carrera 4. I remember him telling me that the DOT had a stakeout at his house for a few weeks after he initially took delivery of the car because they were convinced he'd take it for a spin around the block. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 188 Registered: 8-2002 |
Chris, regarding his comments on the 959. There were 27 cars made for the U.S., intended as road cars, and referred to by Porsche as the "racing" version as opposed to the Euopean "comfort" version. When the first 8 cars arrived, however, 7 were sent back to Germany by customs (Porsche had not provided cars for crash testing). The other 19 cars remained in Europe where their new owners could take delivery and use them. Most, however, were just sold off to Europeans. The 1 car that was allowed in the U.S. went to Porsche aficianado Otis Chandler and was allowed in for "display purposes only." It's now at the Otis Chandler Museum here in California. Other cars have been brought in to the U.S. since under the "Bill Gates" law, but are only allowed on the street for limited use (travel to and from display/show). For more info on this law see: http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_9912.html | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 334 Registered: 9-2001 |
Here's a new idea for a FerrariChat contest. Use Photoshop to convert this guy into anything. Example: Clown Devil Pimp An Oompa Lompa (from Willy Wonka & the chocolate factory) Maybe Rob Lay will throw out some sort of prize for the best idea. Just an idea. | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 64 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hey Chris: Was the 959 guy at Seca doing a article for a Excellence magazine? I recall a story last year where they had Danny Sullivan tested a fleet of turbo Pcars including a private 959. Was a great read. I'd have to agree with you... this guy's business is questionable. | ||
| Doug Meredith (Doug308)
Junior Member Username: Doug308 Post Number: 188 Registered: 2-2001 |
Impressive....Ferraris, Porsches etc.... Look at other auctions and he also has a Lotus Exige with a similar write up and then a..........Jeep Wrangler. | ||
| Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
New member Username: Spawnz Post Number: 14 Registered: 6-2002 |
With all those pictures you'd think he's selling his own ass. Way overpriced though. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 774 Registered: 4-2002 |
maybe he is chris sawyerrs brother... buyer beware,,,,,, | ||
| chris (Wrench_turner)
New member Username: Wrench_turner Post Number: 31 Registered: 5-2002 |
this guy's a total liar. Look at his other auction. You CAN'T register any of those Loti in the USA for street use. He also says, "Porsche 959 special modell "US Racing version" (for road use) built only 27units, this car has No. 18, red, roll bar, Radio Cassette, first date of registration 29.09.1989, approx. 11.000 miles" There's no such thing as a road legal 959 in the US. When I worked at Laguna Seca a billionaire rented the track (and one of our instructors) for three days so he could drive his REAL 959 around. I talked to him about it - he said that for almost a year the DOT was looking for any excuse to confiscate his car and destroy it because they had such a bug up their ass about the 959. He told me that they actually showed up with a tow truck once because someone had been spotted driving around SF in a fake 959 and they thought it was him (he had to sign a form on importing it swearing he'd never drive it on the street in the USA). | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 205 Registered: 4-2002 |
Posting pictures of himself is a old trick scam artists use. It makes people feel more confortable with the transaction. After all, they know what they look like! (that's going to do them a lot of good) Heck, it could be photos of anybody. | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 67 Registered: 1-2002 |
Does the name "Chris Sawyerr" sound familiar... Anyway, notice that he has no history behind his name. VERY BIG FLAG!!!! | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 97 Registered: 2-2002 |
Why would a guy that looked like that put so many pictures of himself up on the web? He wants to sell the car doesn't he? | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Junior Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 115 Registered: 7-2002 |
In on of the THREE! pics of him it has sign that says MIXX MASTER hanging above his shelf. I'm out based on that alone. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 333 Registered: 9-2001 |
Seems this guy is suffering from a super ego syndrome. I could never understand anyone that has toy cars all over his desk could ever get any work done. Funny photos though. | ||
| S. P. (512tr1994)
New member Username: 512tr1994 Post Number: 28 Registered: 6-2002 |
Yes, Suspcious looking dude... That Guy Seems to love himself tooooo much. There's 3 pictures of the egomaniac and only 1 picture of someone's car.... He thinks he's on the "DATING GAME" What a LOSER... | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 288 Registered: 5-2002 |
Delivered and all for just $169k. Am I missing something here? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1854208544 |