| Author | Message | ||
| Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Junior Member Username: Qferrari Post Number: 104 Registered: 2-2002 |
Magoo, well said and how true. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3165 Registered: 2-2001 |
A part of Enzo, his image, is in every Ferrari. In my opinion this is the soul. If that ever is lost by some large manuf., G.M.,Ford,etc. buying up the Ferrari name it will be lost forever. JMO | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 19 Registered: 9-2002 |
Marq great credo! And your car has SOUL! love the yellow.  | ||
| Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Junior Member Username: Qferrari Post Number: 102 Registered: 2-2002 |
(according to Webster's Unabridged) "soul" (Middle English 'soule',Old English 'sAwol'. Dated pre-12th century) Definition(5a)- A quality that arouses emotion(s) and/or sentiment(s), i.e. the painting/sculpture has soul. Say what you will, but my Ferrari definitely arouses emotions and sentiments. Ergo, it definitely has soul. Oh, by the way, it also has character. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 356 Registered: 8-2002 |
It's not "soul" you're talking about, gentlemen. It's "character." Some cars are generic by nature and, thus, lack character. Others have a very pronounced character, something that is typical of Italian and British cars. There are Japanese cars that have a very distinct Japanese character, but most try to imitate European automobiles and end up lacking a character of their own. | ||
| Michael Yurinko (Gage)
New member Username: Gage Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2002 |
Nobody here would ever bash a Fiat. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2002 |
You (obviously) never saw/rode/drove an X1/9. How can you call it unsuccessful, when it had a production life of over 10 years? | ||
| Michael Yurinko (Gage)
New member Username: Gage Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2002 |
Goddamn it, will people stop calling 'all' Japanese cars boring. I will let anyone here drive my MR2 as hard as they want. I bet the word 'boring' won't come out of your mouth. A 'mass produced' mid-engined car is a challege for any car company. Other than exotics, Toyota and Honda are the only other companies to do this with success. Some respect must be given to them. Unless everyone here is comparing a Ferrari to a Toyota Camry than I can see your point. Ferrari will always be my first choice, but I love my MR2 and would never sell it. | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2002 |
Peter, thanks  Im smiling now! Ill smile even bigger when I find my Ferrari!! | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2059 Registered: 12-2000 |
Joseph, here's the list of different emoticons avaliable (and now I see there's a whole bunch more. Great!  ) http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/cgi-bin/discus/board-image-lister.cgi | ||
| Chris Tanner (Ctanner)
New member Username: Ctanner Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2001 |
I agree with the Racer. No car has a soul. Stating the obvious, they are machines, made out of metal, plastic, glass, and rubber. These materials are common to all cars. My car doesn't smile when I take it to the track, it doesn't laugh at me when it breaks down 200 miles from home, it doesn't cry if it misses its weekend drives, because it can't express emotions. I, on the other hand, can express emotions and do have a soul. And Ferrari is a machine that can fill the soul. I do the smiling, laughing, and crying and the Ferrari is a vehicle that can bring out these emotions, and hundreds others, where other cars cannot. Japanese cars are not perfect, they are just conservative every day work horses, which leads to boredom. Ferrari's don't have such mundane tasks to perform, and any day the damn thing starts calls for excitment. | ||
| Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Member Username: Bob308gts Post Number: 325 Registered: 9-2001 |
My driving shoes have a " soul " | ||
| Joseph (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2002 |
I agree but we just say they have soul because it sounds cool but a better thing to say is, it has character. Or maybe even personality no thats pushing it. Oh well something to debate about. BTW how do you make all those different faces? | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 194 Registered: 3-2002 |
Martin, I feel that Ferraris have character, but not soul. They are very evocative, but I feel nothing we as man can make that is as simple as a car has soul. Compaired to a Toyota, yes, a F-car has soul, but in the end... it's not a complex organism with feelings and emotions... it's something we made for transportation, compition, and our enjoyment. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2923 Registered: 5-2001 |
funny I know somebody that onws I believe 40 2000GTs. I am sure that he believes they have soal. I am just not sure that the soal can follow when he tracks his race 2000GT. That thing is FAST! | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 354 Registered: 3-2002 |
any car with which you have an emotional tie, has soul. it doesn't matter where it's made. the emotional tie has a lot to do with how much you want that car, whether its due to rarity, performance, styling etc. it just so happens that many of the classics and their modern brothers, were/are made in europe and the usa, and not in japan. the japanese concentrated on what was going to sell their cars in a market where they had little style currency, ie build quality. and they sold a lot of cars. but if you have one of those rare toyota 2000gt's used in the bond film, or you still have your first 240z in pristine shape etc, those cars have soul. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2911 Registered: 5-2001 |
Racer, gotta drive one to feel the soal. A soal is when you get out and feel thatz this is the only thing you can live with in the future. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 191 Registered: 3-2002 |
No car has a soul. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2055 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think Rob should expand the emoticon collection. Sometimes I feel more than just , or  and even more  (Joseph: \clipart {crazy}) | ||
| Joseph Furer (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2002 |
Say Peter how did you make that funny face? Oh I will try not to bring up politics or religion. Mojo | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2052 Registered: 12-2000 |
Oh geeze, not another one of these "soul" discussions... | ||
| Michael Yurinko (Gage)
New member Username: Gage Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2002 |
Will you guys listen to yourselves. Why does my Toyota have to break down to have a soul? You get out of a car what you put into a car. My MR2 directly from the factory never felt like a point A to point B car. And with $2000 in suspension upgrades, the car feels like a trian on rails. And don't tell me that nobody has modified their Ferrari to give it more kick. Anyway, my point is this, who here would stop buying Ferraris if they suddenly became 100% reliable? Nobody. I think what you guys are feeling is the mystic, the history, the lure, the passion and the rush that is Ferrari. And that, I believe has a soul. Just my 2 cents. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 64 Registered: 4-2002 |
BTW, 350Z is pretty good! | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2002 |
Break down unexpectedly = temperamental = feels like it has a soul.... But my car breaks when I drive other cars more. Is she jealous? | ||
| Joseph Furer (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 12 Registered: 9-2002 |
I seen a 350z today. First one yet, it looked great,but at first glance I thought it was a lexus sc430 so much alike. Cool but no ferrari!!! | ||
| Allen Cook (Alcook62)
New member Username: Alcook62 Post Number: 47 Registered: 3-2002 |
In reference to your comment regarding Japanese cars and their lack of soul I believe you hit the nail squarely on the head when you said, "Japanese cars are too perfect, reliable, which says boring, no soul". They do lack character. They are great for everyday transportation, point "A" to point "B", driving etc... To me, however, they are "cookie cutter" cars. In my younger days, many years ago, I owned a Celica and then a Z car, both great dependable cars decent get up and go, good handling, no soul. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1418 Registered: 2-2001 |
Dont know if she has a soul but she seems to enjoy the track at least as much as I do We are the perfect Power couple LOL | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Junior Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2001 |
I don't know about you guys but I'm getting a little sick of that word "soul". I guess it is also used in the food business. "Soul food"; now do you think manicotti has more "soul" than sushi ? I've been driving Ferraris for 25 years and have not always felt their souls, especially the shitty ones. But I must confess, earlier this month when I reached Maranello ten minutes after the end of the Itlian GP and heard the horns and watched people in the street waving the flag, I felt a little of that "soul". | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Junior Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 181 Registered: 8-2002 |
Yes. Ferrari's have soul and a individual personality. They breath, they laugh, they cry, they weep, they live and they die. They are parts of the family. They bring people close. They push people away. They are our children. They are our lovers. They are a friend. At times, they can be our enemy. Life is never the same once you have been with one. Nor will it ever be the same without one. Yes. They have soul. | ||
| Joseph Furer (Mojo)
New member Username: Mojo Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2002 |
Ive been hearing that Ferrari has soul, and my friend says american cars have soul. But everyone says Japanese cars do not. I agree. So I asks myself why? My theory is cars are like people we have problems,quarks,just not even close to perfect.So we have pesonality i.e. soul.But Japanese cars are to pefect,reliable, which says boring,no soul. Any input, WHAT DO YOU THINK? |