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Andrew (Enzo250gto)
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 7:05 am:   

how about giving users the option in their profile/settings?
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2553
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 1:44 pm:   

I don't need anymore advice. Thanks though. I decided a few days ago to just leave it the same for now.
Nick (True)
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 1:30 pm:   

I'd definetly vote for CHANGING it!!

I know the reasons for the current method, but like I said before until every post in every thread is read at the time they are posted, it doesn't make sence. The amount of traffic this board gets now makes this method obsolete. You STILL have to scroll down and start reading back up. If anyone says that don't have to, they aren't reading the whole thread....cause very rarely is only a few posts added anymore.

A lot of these people that are voting keep it how it is probably have NO idea how much easier it is to read from top to bottom. It's NOT fun skimming messegas down as you are scrolling UP.

At the very least like has been mentioned a few times....a preferences to toggle order would be GREAT.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 303
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 9:13 am:   

i like both ...and how difficult can it be to scroll down to see the start of thread? !
Coop (360)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 3:57 am:   

Why not give one the option? Maby built into ones profile perhaps?
This german one has it on the very bottom right...

http://www.carpassion.com/de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4153

It's from the: Ever won a 360? threat
http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/152067.html?1035582133
Vikram Hora (Threefivefive)
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 1:28 am:   

I'd prefer to change it from OLD to NEW.

Regards.
Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
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Username: Gamester

Post Number: 167
Registered: 11-2000
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 12:16 am:   

agreeing with man90tr
been here since the beginning... are there other chat rooms out there? I thought this was the only one!~
Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
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Username: Frankie

Post Number: 43
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 8:59 pm:   

it took me a while to get used to it but hey man it works.sooooo,if it ain't broke...:-)
Michael N. (Man90tr)
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Username: Man90tr

Post Number: 704
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 8:42 pm:   

Rob, interesting note -- if senoirity means anything -- look at the people who say keep it the same -- its many people who have been here a long time with many posts. That should say something. Personally, I like it the way it is.
Tom RM (Tgitom)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 8:11 pm:   

CHANGE IT!! OLD TO NEW!
Ted Gay (Fhead)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 6:24 pm:   

Old to new makes much more sense.
Dave Mills (360dave)
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Username: 360dave

Post Number: 73
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 5:52 pm:   

I'd rather have it in the normal tops-down style...

Thanks for asking.

Dave
Vince Canipelli (F308vc)
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Post Number: 52
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 26, 2002 - 5:28 pm:   

CHANGE IT !!!!!!!
James Selevan (Jselevan)
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Username: Jselevan

Post Number: 179
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:26 pm:   

Rob - the "push down" stack, where new entries are at the top and push everything down is most appropriate. HOWEVER, I reiterate the need to create subcategories by model or engine. For example, categories for 3x8, 4xx, 365, Boxer, TR, Dino, 360, etc. There are too many entries under one general heading of "Technical" or "General". This would not preclude scanning categories of non-interest, but it would allow those focused on a particular model to efficiently scan areas of interest. While available, the "Search" feature is cumbersome in that it returns too many threads, and Boolean filtering may lead to missing the one entry that you really needed.

Just one opinion from an appreciative participant.

Jim S.
D B (Threesixty)
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Username: Threesixty

Post Number: 76
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:07 pm:   

Change it around IMO. Also, if possible, add a "thread started by: XXXX" to the forum?
Dave (Netviper)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 4:47 pm:   

oldest to newest is MUCH easier to follow IMO.
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 3:54 pm:   

I like it just the way form is.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
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Username: Hugh

Post Number: 272
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 7:00 pm:   

rob, one thing i wouldn't mind would be the ability to use html based markup; for: images, text, etc., possible?
Allen Cook (Alcook62)
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Username: Alcook62

Post Number: 60
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 5:39 pm:   

Leave it the way it is.
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
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Username: Qferrari

Post Number: 113
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 4:22 pm:   

I know, I know... I'm late chiming in but this is the ONLY board that does it right...makes such obvious sense...keep it the way it is.
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 1554
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:35 am:   

the only thing we agree on is Ferraris are great - oooh well maybe not even that :-(
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2520
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 11:32 am:   

Since it's not overwhelming to change, I think I'll leave things stable, if there is an over whelming opinion to change something on this board, I will.
Chris Richardson (Boozy)
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Username: Boozy

Post Number: 226
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 10:30 am:   

I wish all the others were formatted like this one. Keep it the same.
Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
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Username: Iluv4res

Post Number: 184
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 7:58 am:   

Let the other sites switch to your layout......
Al Johnson (Bigal)
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Username: Bigal

Post Number: 83
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 7:23 am:   

old to new
jm2 (Yello355)
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Username: Yello355

Post Number: 6
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 5:52 am:   

i prefer old to new.on occasion i have printed something and it's awkward trying to read it from back to front in my opinion.thank you for asking!
Vince (Manatee)
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Username: Manatee

Post Number: 62
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 5:33 am:   

How about old to new, and when you click on a thread it takes you to your first unread message.

As Dave said, have the reply box close to the last message.

Thanks for asking, Rob. Shows you really care.
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
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Username: Dapper

Post Number: 309
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 2:09 am:   

I'd like an 'add message' prompt at the top, i.e. near the latest message instead of having to scroll to the bottom.
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
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Post Number: 295
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 1:30 am:   

I personally like old to new...
john (Johnwto)
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 12:27 am:   

change it
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
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Post Number: 508
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:18 pm:   

I like it the way it is.
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2513
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:04 pm:   

eveyrone does know right, that you can view just the messages and threads that are new since your last login under the "Search" link below. I once used this until the traffic picked up so much. I can leave for one hour and there are over a hundred messages in just that hour.
J. Grande (Jay)
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Username: Jay

Post Number: 650
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:59 pm:   

old to new
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
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Username: Todd328gts

Post Number: 198
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:21 pm:   

I only use this board...so I don't know any better...works for me
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Username: Tillman

Post Number: 87
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:20 pm:   

There's a Texas saying -- "We don't care how you did it up North"

Same thought here. It's not broke, don't fix it. You might think about adding a new link up top where it says |FerrariAds|Members|etc that says "Why is this backwards?" Then explain that's just how it's done here. You could always point to the Fish Plate thread or the "Honest Opinion on the Corvette" thread as examples.

Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
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Username: Owens84qv

Post Number: 547
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:10 pm:   

Rob,

Keep it the way it is. On threads that go for 20 or more posts, I don't want to have to scroll to the very bottom to find the latest 1 or 2 posts...every other board does it ass backwards!
Marcus Adolfsson (Marcusadolfsson)
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Username: Marcusadolfsson

Post Number: 99
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:04 pm:   

Honestly I would like to see a switch to vbulletin. I run it on one of my sites (http://discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/) and it is great.

One if the best features is the ability to "Go to first new post" of any thread that has new posting. You just click on the arrow the page loads and skips instantly to the earliest post that you have not read yet in that thread.

It also has a great "View New Posts" since last visit.
Matt Karson (Squidracing)
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Username: Squidracing

Post Number: 198
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 9:55 pm:   

Old to new
Carmine Nicoletta (Ncarmine)
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 8:46 pm:   

I'f it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Carmine
Drew Altemara (Drewa)
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Username: Drewa

Post Number: 74
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 8:45 pm:   

Slight personal preference for old to new.
Joseph (Mojo)
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Username: Mojo

Post Number: 61
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 8:36 pm:   

Rikky
hit the nail right on the head. Old to new. too many longwinded people.
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 8:30 pm:   

Yes, I think a choice would be great. I personally would like to see it the other way. Just because if a post is long you read it from top to bottom, then you have to scroll up again to read the next message, etc.

It is just awkward and goes against the way we read, top to bottom.

Nick Berry (Nickb)
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Username: Nickb

Post Number: 26
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 7:15 pm:   

If possible let me set my preference. If not at least post the initial comment on top and then list the most recent reply and so on with the oldest reply last.

Scrolling through all the replies before reaching the initial post is somewhat unorthodox (I am trying to use a nice word to describe a confusing feature).
Chris Pounds (Eggman)
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Username: Eggman

Post Number: 55
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:50 pm:   

Perhaps a "radio button" toggle in your preferences. Let the user decide.

My .02,
Chris.
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 703
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:34 pm:   

:-)
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
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Post Number: 1071
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:24 pm:   

as is.................
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 868
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:12 pm:   

No, my finger gets so tired from scrolling, there's no strength left to type!
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 702
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:08 pm:   

Jim, still no luck at matchmaker.com, huh? :-)
Jim E (Jimpo1)
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Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 867
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:04 pm:   

Keep it the way it is. Other message boards annoy the hell out of me when I'm reading a thread I've been to before. I have to scroll through all the stuff I've already seen.
David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 5:50 pm:   

I like it as is. It makes for quick scanning of new messages on topics that I am following.
K. Wesley DeLoach (Wesleyd)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 5:39 pm:   

It was stange at first, but after awhile you get used to it and I do like it for the long threads. Keeping it the same is fine.

If you are interested in checking out some other software, another board I use just switched to YABB. You can check them out at www.yabbforum.com.
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
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Post Number: 627
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 5:22 pm:   

fine as is.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Post Number: 324
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 5:07 pm:   

The way it is.
William Huber (Solipsist)
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Post Number: 448
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 3:39 pm:   

If theres nothing wrong with it, do mess with it. I like it just the way it is.
BretM (Bretm)
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Post Number: 2773
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 3:26 pm:   

I like this way. Other boards you have to scroll past the same messages every time you check a post to see replies, get's annoying IMO. This way I usually just scroll down until I see my name which is a different color b/c I looked at my profile, and then know where to start reading from.
Aaron Williams (Aawil)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 3:21 pm:   

This is the only forum i've seen like that and it is a little strange. I like old to new I guess because that's the norm.
Frank (Fjt)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:52 pm:   

Who reads a book from the back to the front. I like to see the initial comments and work my way through rather than start from the end and work my way to the beginning.
Thanks
Frank
BobD (Bobd)
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Username: Bobd

Post Number: 699
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:46 pm:   

Seems easier to scan the newest messages on top of each thread vs putting the original messages on top and scrolling down to the bottom every time. My vote is keep it as is.
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Username: Arlie

Post Number: 317
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:37 pm:   

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's great just like it is.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Post Number: 1147
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:36 pm:   

Leave as is: new-to-old
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 1550
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:36 pm:   

do not change - if you visit often enough it is the better way :-)
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 543
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:28 pm:   

once i'm here it doesn't bother me, but if i stay away for a few days and then come back i'm totally confused for a few minutes finding new stuff :-).

maybe i'm just an idiot though ;-)

seriously, the boards that do "normal" ordering all have a way to get into a thread "at the first message i have not read yet". without that functionality, it's a pain in the patootskies.

i'm guessing this board s/w does not have that functionality, so......

my two pennies.

doody.
Martin (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 3029
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:28 pm:   

I am a conservative guy and like things the way they are. No need for change!
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2498
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 2:11 pm:   

Time to time I get feedback from people use to how every other message board in the world is structured. That is oldest to newest message order. My reason for newest to oldest is to make it more efficient how you scroll through messages. If you only visit a thread once, then old to new would make the most sense. However, for long threads, new to old limits the amount you have to scroll when visiting multiple times. Old to new you have to scroll past all messages already read. Also, pics load top to bottom, so you'll also have to wait for all old pics to load, before the new ones.

Let me know what you think either way. If there is overwhelming support to try old to new, then I will.

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