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Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 4:36 am:   

My mistake, then. Thanks for the clarification.

--Dan
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 6:25 pm:   

>> What does Ferrari have to do with this? <<

The reason why Ernesto is asking this, is because FIAT Holdings owns Ferrari and NOT FIAT Auto which is the entity in financial trouble. No matter what happens to FIAT Auto, as long as the deal does not include Ferrari as previously speculated, there will be no changes to Ferrari.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 388
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 5:33 pm:   

Ernesto-it's referring to the thread asking would Ferrari's image change if GM bought them out.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 5:28 pm:   

Fiat owns Ferrari - invariably some of those jobs must come from the F-car.

--Dan
Ernesto (T88power)
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Post Number: 848
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 3:41 pm:   

What does Ferrari have to do with this?

Ernesto
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Post Number: 330
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 3:27 pm:   

8100 jobs. Typical family of 3 equals 24300 people that are going to have a really bad holiday.

VS (Vs1)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 1:43 pm:   

My guess is that GM would also drastically reduce the workforce as a cost cutting measure if they were forced to buy Fiat. So it's really a no win situation. The way the news reads - sounds like GM isn't giving any debt relief, either.
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Post Number: 329
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 1:29 pm:   

It's a ethical issue.
GM ferrari lowers the car values but 8100 people can feed their kids...
8100 jobs so I can feel better about my car is a hard pill to swallow. As the saying goes..."it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt." In this case it is 8100 people.

sad
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 1:27 pm:   

So we can stay happy with the current Ferrari image but at a cost of 8100 jobs?
Now I don't know how I feel about all of this.
VS (Vs1)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 8:12 am:   

From today's www.thecarconnection.com news.

FIAT TO BOOST AUTO GROUP WITH $2.47 BILLION
Fiat SpA will pump $2.47 billion into the struggling Fiat Auto group as required by Italian law. According to that law, any company that owes more than one-third of its net assets must be recapitalized. Fiat SpA will effect the transfer by canceling some of Fiat Auto's debt to the parent company, according to Reuters. GM, which owns 20 percent of Fiat Auto, is not party to the arrangement. Fiat lost $335 million in the third quarter, and has said it will cut 8100 jobs to stanch losses - a move extremely unpopular in Italy and with the country's government.

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