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Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 615 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 7:32 pm: | |
Hey Jonas, I have to give you so credit. You had a rough start but know you are posting with actual questions and showing interest in the cars. Most guys would have tucked tail and hidden after that Modena post. I am glad to see you have changed. Hopfully you have learned a few things along the way. M |
Brian W Dimetres (Acnberlin)
New member Username: Acnberlin
Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 9:49 am: | |
Martin, Do you want another European F1 Spider? Still in Germany, only $145K. Red, too. Brian |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 3253 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 9:18 am: | |
Tom is right, the warranty in the country of first delivery stands. Most dealers will work on them. Those that don't, too bad they lose the money. Since you have no warranty might as well go to an independent mechanic and save on the labor rate as well. Price wise: 2001 360 Spider US $ 240,000 2001 360 Spider Euro $ 190,000 (conversion delivery etc inlcuded) I have one for those that need one! Yes, no warranty but you could get a aftermarket warranty, like SMART Warranty. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1835 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:29 am: | |
in fact I think you can have warranty work done on euro cars if you ship them back to europe - obviously not cheap but if you have a 20k issue might be worth it |
Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Junior Member Username: Karsten335
Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:17 am: | |
Hehe, Matt .. I'll give it for free..  |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1834 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:15 am: | |
agreed but buyers of euros know that up front and one should factor this into the overall cost of having a euro car |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 591 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:12 am: | |
Tom, They might service them but they will not honor the warranty. Unless they come from Jonas's shop... M |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1831 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 8:10 am: | |
from what I have heard many dealers will service euros, there are a few that won't but most will |
ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross
Post Number: 556 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 5:00 am: | |
the prospect of getting something cheaper is usually enough to motivate most capitalists to make the effort. in this case, if you manage to streamline the entry process, the money saved can be significant. i have been championing this effort for a while since the sheer weight of it will eventually be too much for the dealers to bear and they will cave in to doing repairs on euros, and that will rid these cars of stigma and level the playing field a bit. for the moment i don't care since i live in europe, but on eof these days i'll be moving back to the states and want to bring my cars with me...... |
Vikster (Threefivefive)
New member Username: Threefivefive
Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 4:39 am: | |
Hmmm, but Dan I thought people on the forum have hashed to death the idea that once you factor in the money for an EPA/DOT conversion, and discount the price for the fact that the majority of dealers won't service European cars, you're actually at a premium to the going rate on a US model. Second, these European cars are being sold by dealers and many of them have been advertised for more than a couple of weeks suggesting they are not moving fast. Maybe the private buyers bought them from Europe and are now offloading them to dealers...could be. Even with respect to "wait time" issues, there seem to be enough 99-01 coupes to satisfy the majority of buyers. Keep in mind that many of these European imports are not new cars. So, I guess I'm still not fully convinced as to what the rationale is. Regards. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 110 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 1:17 am: | |
Vikster: cars sold abroad are significantly cheaper - so much so that the conversion and shipping costs factored in still result in a (generally) cheaper car. In addition, your wait time is cut down to 3 months instead of 2 years. A cost-effective way of beating the line for the must-have-it-now people. --Dan |
Vikster (Threefivefive)
New member Username: Threefivefive
Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 1:15 am: | |
Guys, not curious to know "how to" and "issues involved in importing" but simply wanted to understand WHY there are so many European cars -- especially the 360 -- flooding our coasts. I find this odd especially given the reluctance of so many authorized Ferrari dealers to work on imports and the other issues involved. Are there arbitrage opportunities involved that are letting imported cars being sold at cheaper prices than an equivalent US make? Regards, Confused. |