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Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member
Username: Godsil
Post Number: 198
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 5:45 pm: | |
I read this thread and I see what everyone thinks about Porterfield brakes so I inquired about signing up with them to start selling their product. They have a $1500 buy-in. So what I was thinking is that if people are in the market for these brakes I will take orders for them and when I receive enough orders for the $1500 I will order them. In doing this I will sell them to anyone who wants them at cost to get me up to the $1500 buy-in. Does this sound fair? |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 325
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 1:39 pm: | |
Martin,
No problem, glad to add when I can.
hubert |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 3295
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 4:28 am: | |
Hubert,
great info.
Thanks
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Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 324
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 3:44 am: | |
Tony,
Let me know what you decide to do. Also, if you're interested I'll be attending a track day at Buttonwillow on the 29th of November, if you'd like come down and spectate, I'll be giving ride alongs most of the day, would be happy to take you around. Just for fun. |
Dr. Anthony Lizano (Docapl)
New member
Username: Docapl
Post Number: 27
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 5:07 pm: | |
Thanks Hugh... That helps me.
My feeling is that I can deal with dust fine, but want to minimize squel. I also dont want to change the pads for the track.
Tony |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 321
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 3:44 pm: | |
Tony,
Before you make your decision for better track pads, answer a few questions: 1. will you mind dust, a lot of dust? 2. will tolerate some squel? and 3. are you going to swap pads on the track or not?
Well, if you said no 1, yes to 2, and yes to 3. I'd suggest the porterfield r4 or panther + or even panther xp (although the panther + can be used on the street; it does, however, dust!). You could also try the Hawk blues, or HPS pads. Or, you could also consider one of the Ferrodo pads (supplier to F3, F atlantic, and rally teams), maybe the ds3000 would be good for you?
If you said yes to 1 and no to 2 and 3, then the poretfield r4s would be a better suited pad, or possibly the carbotech panther pad would be good; although I do not have personal experience w/ the panther, only the panther +, but have used the r4s and liked it.
In the end, however, it would be best to call the individual companies and ask them what they feel your application neccessitates, my advice would be to contact one or all of the following:
Matt Nicholson at Cabrbotech : 1-877-899-5024
I would also urge you to contact:
Andie Lin at cobaltfriction : 1-877-562-9237 regarding ferrodo and/or hawk pads.
Both of these guys are to the bone enthusiasts, and will spend hours, if need be, on the phone w/ you to get you the RIGHT components, the 1st time. Give both of them a call.
Hope this helps,
hubert
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Dr. Anthony Lizano (Docapl)
New member
Username: Docapl
Post Number: 26
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 11:01 am: | |
Then can I conclude correctly that the R4S pads typically do not squeel, and provide track performance better than stock (which also wear very fast on the track) ? |
Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member
Username: Icnsltmfg
Post Number: 462
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 8:37 am: | |
I have to disagree. I have used several diff pads, and found the GreenStuff had Zero dust, no noise without any anti-squeal grease, and no extra wear to my rotors. The RedStuff pads are great for the track. They do produce dust, but stop my 3,600 pound beast which does not have the best brakes to start with.
I like them so much, I wish they made replacement pads for my ML430. |
Randy (Schatten)
Member
Username: Schatten
Post Number: 469
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 2:33 am: | |
If this is for a track only pad go with the Porterfield R4's - great initial bite and they can withstand the heat. However, clean your wheels PRONTO or else the dust will be burned into your wheels. The R4's do squeak, and the only way you will get them not to squeak is to get on the brakes hard while going through town, or else... easy on the brakes and a loud piercing squeak!
R4S's are a good autox pad, and somewhat street pad, but I would say for the track, they can be too soft for long sessions, especially if you are hard at braking. For some drivers I've seen these do very well, for others, I've seen them go through R4S's in a day's time and the entire pad ends up on the side of the car. |
Dr. Anthony Lizano (Docapl)
New member
Username: Docapl
Post Number: 24
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 12:10 am: | |
Hugh,
I hate brake squeel but need a pad that will hold up on the track. I know opposite properties. What is your best recommendation for a 360 Modena ?
Thanks,
Tony |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 319
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:59 pm: | |
Jason-
No problem. If you have any more questions, specific or otherwise, feel free to email me.
-hubert |
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Junior Member
Username: Jfraser
Post Number: 138
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 11:43 pm: | |
Hugh
Thanks for the excellant info
Jason |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member
Username: Hugh
Post Number: 317
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 10:16 pm: | |
Jason-
Stay away from EBC pads; I've used both the greens and the reds, and they both, IMO, were terrible. The greens (allegedly the low dust, low noise, street pad) dusted like mad, was loud, and didn't deliver what it promised, braking was better than stock, however, the reds (a track pad) ate up my rotors, and couldn't last an entire track day, not impressed.
Since then, I've been using carbotech pads ( on the street and on the track) and cannot compliment them enough, currently using the panther + pad, and love them. They do dust and squel, but no pretense was made to the contrary when I was buying them. I've also used porterfield r4s pads as street and mild track pads and liked them as well, not as much 'bite' as the panther + pad, but much better over stock; and, both pads offer excellent cold bite when you consider their performance at operating temp.
For more info, check the following sites:
http://www.carbotecheng.com/
http://www.cobaltfriction.com/
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/
If your looking for a performance street pad, consider the porterfield r4s or the carbotech panther xp; otherwise the panther + of the r4 would be the way to go for a more dedicated track pad.
Now, to address your question regarding stock pads, they are galfer pads. Also, here is a step by step brake pad replacement procedure for a 360:
http://www.sodacoms.com/Downloads/Ferrari%20360%20Pad%20Replacment%20Tech.exe
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Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Junior Member
Username: Jfraser
Post Number: 137
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 7:57 pm: | |
I was reading a thread on this site about EBC greenstuff brake pads....Has anyone used them on a 360...Does it in any way affect brake performance?? (I had heard that they warp discs.) Finally, can anyone tell me what are the standard pads on the 360.
Thanks
Jason |
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