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KCCK (Kenneth)
New member Username: Kenneth
Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 7:16 am: | |
Very informative, Kevin. Thanks for the insight. The comparison between the 360 and 456 is good, although I must say that even with the 456, excitement and a sense of occasion have never deserted me for a slight moment. |
Kevin (Jammy)
Junior Member Username: Jammy
Post Number: 93 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 5:07 am: | |
Neither the 360 nor the 456 (and therefore I assume, 550) is an engine out job for the cambelts. I had both cars done earlier this year, and 18K + cambelts for the 456 was $3k (2200GBP) and 6K + cambelts for the 360 was $3.3k (2400GBP). Both cars done at an official Ferrari dealership and so far have cost roughly the same to run per annum. The main 'running' cost with modern Ferrari is depreciation, which, believe me, dwarfs any other, and should be factored into the comparison. The other side of the equation is what these cars are like to use. The principal difference I have found between the V8 and V12, is that the wheras the V12 can be a relaxing or an exciting drive, the V8 is just exciting, even if you're not in the mood. I've not yet got out of the Modena without some residual adrenaline. There is no comparison between them and the 996. The sight, sound, smell and feel of the Ferraris is in a different league to the 996. All IMO of course! Have fun Kevin |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Junior Member Username: Sharky666
Post Number: 57 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 3:45 am: | |
Bart, Great to see someone from belgium over here. Especially with such a beautifull name as yours I'm sorry I can't help you with your question (but I'm sure there are lots of other people that can), I just wanted to welcome you. Great site you got there, some nice photo's. Bart The Netherlands |
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member Username: Mw360
Post Number: 671 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 6:38 pm: | |
One can safely deduct $2k from the 30 k service of the 360's based on not having to pull the engine. |
David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512
Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 1:23 am: | |
If 360's now have a trapp door to access the belts, exactly "how much" cheaper is it to have a major $ervice? I somehow imagine Ferrari dealer techs making up excuses as to why a 360 major service will still cost as much as if not more than a 355. Is there any other reason besides a rebuild that the engine would have to come out of a 360?
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KCCK (Kenneth)
New member Username: Kenneth
Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 12:54 am: | |
Of 355s, 360s, 550s, 575s, and 456s, which model is more reliable, and which model is, eh, more sentimental? Which model is thought to be the most expensive to maintain, or is there such a thing at all? |
Frank K Lipinski (Kaz)
New member Username: Kaz
Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 12:25 pm: | |
Ming - I just looked into this here. A compnay called Smart Warranty offers a warranty for any F-Car 1997 or newer. They charge US $4,500 for two years, so your price sounds about right. |
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
New member Username: Bel
Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 11:02 am: | |
Thaks for the feedback. I only drive 10K a year. The prices here in Belgium are 100K for a late '00 F360. 550 is ok but i like the design of 360 a lot more. |
Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys
Post Number: 74 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 8:34 am: | |
Hi Guys, I am also new to the F-cars. Is it a fair deal to pay US$2.5k for one year warranty for a 9 years old 456GT 6-speed from the Ferrari of HK? What is the normal warranty cost for a used F-car in US per year? Tx., Ming |
Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 3319 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 7:22 am: | |
true, for the 360 you do not need to pull the engine anymore. thosie were really the 348 and 355 models only. on a 328 and earlier youc an do it without, although easier if you pull it. Bart, i would also look into the 550. Prices have dropped considerably on those were the prices on the 360 are still too high and will come down. Don't be scared. There is more rumors than actual fact to the high maintenance. Obviously if you can buy a 360 or a 996 $1,000 more will not make you hungry. The reward is well worth it, trust me! |
William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 106 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 6:59 am: | |
Ferrari maintenance at dealers can be expensive, but it's usually done right. However, the 360 has a removable panel to access the timing belts so this should not be an "engine-out" operation and therefore less expensive by a considerable margin. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 623 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 6:10 am: | |
The 360 Modena and 550 Maranello have basically the same 0-60 specs according to Ferrari (4.5 and 4.4 respectively). Maintenance on these cars is not cheap - unless you intend to do it yourself. Maintenance cost per distance is messy math, only relevant if you're putting serious miles on the car (18K to 20K km per year). The big cost sink is the first "engine-out" service when they have to pull the block. Figure $5K for that one (of course it varies) but I don't think it's due until 50,000 km on those cars. If you're going to put 10K km per year on the car, you'll end up shelling out for the engine-out every fourth year, and figure a grand per year in between. So $8K every 4 years = $2K per year in maintenance. That assumes nothing goes wrong, of course, which it very well may not. Hope this is helpful. Please pipe in guys if anyone disagrees with my math. For comparison, my experience with 996s (purchased new - so some free warranty work) was about $500 per year for routine maintenance and fettling out random oddities not under warranty. Doody |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 207 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 5:31 am: | |
The 360's only a v8 right? I would trade it for a Maranello. If you have that caliber of Porsche, and you have the means for a 360, then you can do the maranello. Just think of the additional acceleration. |
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
New member Username: Bel
Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 5:14 am: | |
I would like to trade in my Porsche 996 for a 360 Modena. Is the maintenance really so expensive as they say (5000 Euro/ 10.000 km) ? Bart Belgium |