| Author | Message | ||
| Terry Limehouse (Terrykarr)
Junior Member Username: Terrykarr Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2002 |
Martin, FYI, there is a wooden MOMO on e-bay, says it fits a Ferrari, don't know if the wood works for you or not. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4060 Registered: 5-2001 |
Car is in Miami! Saw it in bright sunny daylight today. How wonderful she is! The 288 GTO is probably the nicest body of a Ferrari ever made. Steeringwheel will come tomorrow over night express ready for the car show. Will have photos from the show. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4050 Registered: 5-2001 |
BTW the Dino is pretty. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4049 Registered: 5-2001 |
Terry that is so funny. His son mentioned the Dino as well. I met him. Yes, mechanically challenge would be a good statement. I am no wiz by any stretch but the car looked abused to me. Well, not abused but not properly taken care of. So funny that you mentione this here. Shows you how small the Ferrari World really is. BTW your Corvette is being sold right now. I think he did the deal the following day I was there. | ||
| Terry Limehouse (Terrykarr)
Junior Member Username: Terrykarr Post Number: 83 Registered: 12-2002 |
Martin, a tidbit of info. Martin Joy was the last owner of this car. Back in August he had my 246 and the car you bought for sale, said he needed to sell one of them to help out his son, with schooling I think, who lives in France. About 4 weeks after I bought the 246 from him he died. I had traded a 2000 Corvette and some cash to him for the 246. A few months ago his son called me from France to ask some questions about the Corvette, said he would be selling it and the other Ferrari, which is the one you bought. Martin had a boat broker business on Seabrook Island [Marlin Marine] nice guy, but didn't really know much about cars [mechanically] just liked them. I never had a chance to look at the car you bought. He told me a little bit about it, that it had been modified, but my interest was in the 246 so most of what he said about your car went in one ear and out the other. Anyway, just something I thought you and the rest might like to know. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4035 Registered: 5-2001 |
I did some research on the "Replica" issue: Since this car was built on a Ferrari Chassis and has a Ferrari Engine it is considered a "Rebody". A Replica would be a car that has a Ferrari body but a other makes chassis and/or engine. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 227 Registered: 6-2002 |
Pete- Buy me a 288, and the tickets are yours!  PS: Sears Point isn't half an hour away from my house for nuthin. Best! Ben. | ||
| neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member Username: 95spiderneal Post Number: 93 Registered: 3-2002 |
i love these replicas! the pride of ownership of having a personalized ferrari must be incredible. has anyone ever heard of a 355 incorporating the gto look? that could be a fun project. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4034 Registered: 5-2001 |
...besides it would give some of those die-hard stiffs a heart attack if they see a "replica" on the track. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4033 Registered: 5-2001 |
Can not drive two cars up there. Unless I sell the 355 again. | ||
| melo yelo (Meloyelo)
New member Username: Meloyelo Post Number: 44 Registered: 5-2002 |
test | ||
| melo yelo (Meloyelo)
New member Username: Meloyelo Post Number: 43 Registered: 5-2002 |
Martin - Bring it up to Sebring for the FCA meet. my | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4023 Registered: 5-2001 |
Yes, it is SOLD. I own it. We just had the auction run to end and will give 2nd chance offers to the next highest bidders. The car is coming donw to Miami on Thursday. It will be at the car show on the 22nd with the ugly steering wheel unless the new MOMO has arrived by then. Martin | ||
| ARIE BONSELAAR (Arie)
New member Username: Arie Post Number: 27 Registered: 5-2001 |
So it the rebody 308gto on ebay sold? | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 632 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bert, one more thing: You mentioned the width dimensions. You're right about the non streteched versions looking 'fat' at the rear. That's why one of the kits in the US offers door panels as well, so the 'swelling' starts earlier and brings the proportions back together. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 631 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bert, I thought about the rust thing too. Also in regards to the real engine cover: You basically end up with an additional row of louvres going straight into your rear trunk. So when you wash the car (or rain!) you'll end up with a mess. Still I would paint the louvres red and go with the real mirrors. Agreed, that the one you posted pics of is painful to look at. I mean they got so much work into this thing and then make some blatant mistakes (e.g. front lights). Arrgh! Martin, anxiously waiting for an email from you. We're ready here. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4017 Registered: 5-2001 |
Back from South Carolina. What a trip, took 9h drive up and planned to drive the car down. Decided that I will not since the car did not look all that fit. It had a linkage problem with the reverse and the engine looks like it has an engine leak. Overall the body of the car is very nice. Really donce nice however the mechanics need to be looked at. I negotiated him down from where we agreed (which was higher than on eBay) and we did the deal yesterday. The car will be picked up next week by carrier and brought down to my mechanic for a complete list of what it needs. Possibly a belt change and seals replaced. I bought it because I feel the car has the potential to be very nice. Just has been neglected for a few years but can be easily fixed. Robert, sorry man, you can buy it from me though. Give me a call to discuss. Tom, the appraisal was not just for $ 100K but for $400K. I told him I did not need that paper because it was not even worth the money of the paper. I figured somebody did that for insurance purposes or something else of that nature. | ||
| Bert Kanters (Bert308)
New member Username: Bert308 Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2002 |
Andreas, the car will look like in the picture I posted, thought about the rear deck but decided to leave it like it is, too much bother and danger of water leaks and rust traps to weld the pillars together, though it would look cleaner. Thought about painting the louvres red, but think I'll leave them black. Side windows: either the normal GTS covers or with some vents removed to show the window, like another poster here did. My project won't look like a GTO in the end, but like a modified 308GTS. It will be 4 inch wider than standard, while a GTO is 8 inch wider. I think 4 inch wider looks better with the short wheelbase, more elegant. The mirrors will be standard, because I think the GTO mirrors look funny on any other car than a real GTO, saw standard 308 with those mirrors on ebay and it looked like a joke. I will post a link to a complete "making of" or "how to" story, when it's ready, if ever... another picture of a fake GTO I saw at a local car show, could have been a good conversion basically, but then they did so many things wrong :-(    | ||
| Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick Post Number: 219 Registered: 8-2001 |
If it is the same 288 gto on ebay..it is still on ebay #2406858287 the current bid is aroung 36k. I have been watching it and was planning on a possible purchase myself...It is not a terrible rebody..better than most, needs a few items to make correct..but I like the way it looks. I have been a custom corvette nut for a long time. Built a few..still have one. The Corvette owners don't like me either...because it is not original. But who cares different taste for different people. I think the car looks unique, just consider it a custom Ferrari 308...And for the money, just try buying a original GTO for that...GIVE ME A BREAK. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2989 Registered: 9-2001 |
martin, did you get the apprasial that says it is worth over 100k? LMAO - what did it say - they spent 100k | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 623 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bert, I've been following your progress. What a project, good work! I notice you still use the 308 engine hood, which also 'splits' the C colum. Are you going to leave it like this or will you eventually cut out a new engine hood and weld those pillars together? What are you going to do about the 1/4 rear windows and air intakes? | ||
| Bert Kanters (Bert308)
New member Username: Bert308 Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2002 |
Martin, you took the easy way! But what gives a man greater satisfaction then to build his own Ferrari GTO? Ahum... Below you see my project, painted red by hand after a long winter break, to get me an idea what I'm actually building...  | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 621 Registered: 10-2002 |
CONGRATULATIONS MARTIN!!! Good job! Glad somebody here got this and will finish the job. To add to the list of wrongs: - A colum (pillar) should be black, not red. - To really nitpick: Missing two grooves on the front extending down from the front hood. - The engine hood ain't perfect, you could get a better one from these guys: http://italianauto.com/page2.html I do think however the front air intake is legit. I call it an Elaborazione | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4013 Registered: 5-2001 |
forgot to mention that hidious steering wheel. UGG, that will be chnaged immediately. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4012 Registered: 5-2001 |
Okay Guys, Guilty as charged!!!! I bought it! On my way up to pick her up and drive her to Miami (600 Miles) I will let you know. Had to negotiate higher to get her since I feel this is one of the closest GTO re-bodies I have seen. Here is what is wrong: - door handles - location of shields are slightly off (but real shields) - wheel center caps - front air intake (from what I can tell on the pictures) on lower spoiler - rear cooling slots in lower part are 3 in the real GTO, here just the center. - roof overhang slightly over - center console instruments not 100% - tan leather instead of black (don't think they ever made a tan) - seats are wrong. In all these are minor things and I feel that this is pretty much one of the best I have seen. It is not a 288GTO and should not be represented as such. It is a 308 rebody GTO. Yet the lines of the car are preserved and as beautiful as the real deal. You call it replika, I call it re-body. Will have pictures soon. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2979 Registered: 9-2001 |
Willis - interesting question - I think given there is so few of these -288 GTO, I think people have been less likely to modify them seriously - especially if you have the cash you could easily have an f40 as your track car. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1178 Registered: 8-2001 |
Speaking of the real GTO, has anyone done mods on their car? Things like F40 LM turbos, bigger brakes (probably need F40 wheels), different gear ratios, etc. I think these "slight" modification would make the car into a stunning performer (given the low weight). | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2973 Registered: 9-2001 |
you can get one in the 200-300 range, million dollar days are over | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1177 Registered: 8-2001 |
More like $300K or so. About the same or a little more than a F40. | ||
| Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
New member Username: Leepierce Post Number: 35 Registered: 1-2003 |
What do one of the 270-something "Real Deals" go for right now? One or two million dollars? | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 696 Registered: 3-2001 |
As far a rebodies go. I really like the 250GTO built off of a 330 that was on Ebay. I am not sure what he was asking for it though. I know he lowered his price. | ||
| joe under (Undertaker)
New member Username: Undertaker Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2003 |
back end proportions don't look correct | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 618 Registered: 10-2002 |
Robert, you must have seen the real deal at Symbolic: The center switches are 308 (old) style and the instruments 328 style. Well almost: The GTO's instruments are actually all red digitals, whereas the 328 uses some yellow and orange for the rev range. But they're a lot closer related than the ones on the 308. Also the GTO uses a similar instrument setup to the 328, the only difference being,that the GTO has the radio below the air blowers (if it has a radio) whereas in the 328 the radio is directly below the second instrument cluster. Other little differences are the door handles and the location of the speakers (if it has some). Basically a GTO has the 328 doors. It is also a lot closer to a 328 in its front compartment, the setup of the cooler fans and the spare tire are a lot more like the 328. So it makes you really wonder why the stuck with the oldish 308 switches. | ||
| nick m........ (Nickm)
Junior Member Username: Nickm Post Number: 205 Registered: 8-2001 |
Some people like fast cars, other people like good looking cars. If you really like the look of a 288 GTO but don't want to pay $300K, why not build one on a 308? Personally, I would build a car to make ME happy, I could really give a crap what other people think. I have always wondered why some people are so quick to put somebody else's car down. I always think, "Hey whatever." they must really be a car enthusiast to have put so much time and thought into their car. They personalized their car & made it THEIRS! It might not be my taste, but good for them. Check out my car in my profile, some people have been so rude (and socially retarded) that they have told me to my face how I F***ed up a great car. I've often wondered why some people feel compelled to share thier negative opinions. Like THEIR opinion is the only one that REALLY matters. I just laugh to myself, 'cause I can see right thru them. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 256 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ben, Cool, just send me the air tickets and I'll be there ... but the test ride must be on the open road or race track, don't want to do a cruise down some main street with the stereo pumping ... not that you are into that or anything  Pete | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 220 Registered: 6-2002 |
psk- Because that's exactly what Ferrari did. Build a really fast 308. In order to do that, they had to legenthen the car, add cooling, etc. to fit the longitudinal drivetrain. Seriously, any real re-evaluation of the 308 would look just like a 288GTO. I don't see any problem with building my own (and doing exactly what Ferrari did, hot rod a 308/328 into a serious contender.) If/when I do, you're invited for a ride Best! Ben. | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Junior Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2002 |
I found a proper gto on Symbolic's website that I was looking at to compare. The one thing I was suprised with the correct gto was that it has the 328 gauges but the center console has the 308 lever switches. I have seen a GTO in person and don't remember this. This car at Symbolic is an 85, maybe that is diffrent than the 84? | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 617 Registered: 10-2002 |
Johnny, are you sure about that? Sounds freakin' unbelievable to me. I always thought Norwood could get about 100 hp out of a 3l V8 F motor for about 6k. I mean Mark Eberhard and Modman with his souped up 350+ hp Mondial got more out of that engine. If that is true, my future plans for getting a 328 just vanished. Rather stick to my 308 and get the most hp out of this baby. Pretty sure I can beat a 328 + 50 hp for 20k. Hard to believe. | ||
| Johnny (Up2nogd)
Junior Member Username: Up2nogd Post Number: 148 Registered: 8-2002 |
PSk, I recently contacted Bob Norwood in Dallas about putting a Turbo or Supercharger on my 328 - the price "$20,000"!!! Horsepower gain - 50!! They were extremely helpful and basically told me that of all the Ferrari the 328's were the worst and most expensive for major engine upgrades. After getting up off the floor I took my car for a drive and had a new appreciation for how much "Horsepower?" it had Johnny | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 252 Registered: 11-2002 |
Okay, I think I have been misunderstood. I will try again. Why not just make a REALLY fast 308, turbo it supercharge it ... add go faster stripes, etc. BUT why try and make it into a REPLICA of a 288 GTO. Thus I have no problem with anybody doing whatever they like to a 308 ... but come on surely your penis is long enough not to have to make a 308 LOOK like a 288 GTO. Making it go almost like one does not require it to LOOK like one ... they are separate things. I believe in go NOT show, and yes you could make this thing go ... but again you do not need to make a REPLICA of another Ferrari to make a Ferrari go faster, just open the bonnet (hood) and play with the engine ... and change the suspension details. But then if you are a poser, and have worries about the length of certain parts of your body, you might need the full REPLICA treatment Pete BTW: The comment about how they did this in the old days, ie. rebodied race cars into road cars, etc. was so they could sell them. Race cars are primitive things and once their racing life was finished they are hard to sell. Thus put a really nice looking body on it, and sell to some rich idiot and sold race car, and can buy nice new race car and go on win the next race. Any other reason was for the same poser reasons, ie. updating a car or making it look like a better one. | ||
| Johnny (Up2nogd)
Junior Member Username: Up2nogd Post Number: 147 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hey this thing is in my backyard!! Although in Charleston we do not have a Ferrari Dealership we have Karl Troy and Rhett - European Road and Racing! Super Guys to work with!! - if anybody is serious and needs to get in touch to have these guys take a look let me know and I'll get the info to you. Johnny | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 279 Registered: 11-2002 |
How picky. The "slag" given to that steaming pile of turd F40 kit car was well deserved. I've seen prettier abortions. This car is a modified Ferrari. Big deal? If the guy wanted his car to look this way, and it was done well (which it sure looks like), then why get all fussy about it "not being a true F-car"? If I had $35k, I'd buy it. With another $20k, yuo'd have a SERIOUSLY fast car that you weren't afraid to drive. I LOVE 288's, but if I ever have the cash to buy one, I won't, simply because I'd be too damn scared to drive or enjoy it. | ||
| Russ Turner (Snj5)
New member Username: Snj5 Post Number: 21 Registered: 2-2003 |
Just call it what it is - a rebodied Ferrari. Ferrari themselves and multiple carrozeria did it all the time in the 50-70s, and many still rebody vintage chassis all the time (esp. from racing damage). I've seen convertiblized 365GTC/4s, 400is, and 456s. A cut Daytona coupe is no less of a Ferrari - not original mind you, but still a Ferrari with a modified value. Don't think I'd want this one, but I'd take a convertible Daytona cut. Would say this GTO bodied qv is not most accurately represented | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3284 Registered: 2-2001 |
I wouldn't do a rebodied GTO unless I was gonna make the car extremely powerful. People are gonna be snooty half the time when you show up with a rebodied 308. At least if you dust their F40 you can laugh back at them. Personally, I couldn't care less if someone shows up with a rebody but that's just me. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 773 Registered: 10-2001 |
Of course! It's not what it's supposed to be; it's a fake. It's like making a cabinet out of 250 year old wood and calling it an authentic piece of Early American furniture. It's a cobbled together fake. | ||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 196 Registered: 12-2001 |
So is a Ferrari based replica still a Ferrari? | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 771 Registered: 10-2001 |
I'm with Pete. The people you should respect the most, the Ferrari literate public, are the ones you'll impress the least with that car. You WILL impress people who have no idea at all. So? | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Member Username: Psk Post Number: 251 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hmmmm, I find it interesting that you guys are not too unhappy about this sort of replica (after all it is just a replica) and yet you all (myself included) slag off the F40 replica built on a Camaro chassis. In my opinion a replica is a replica no matter how good or bad it is, and what is underneath. This is worse in my opinion as they have trashed a genuine FERRARI. The only acceptable replicas are ones that replicate rare cars and do not use worthy cars as a donor ... I'm all for mod's, etc. but I did not think Ferrari owners were so insecure to want to tart up their REAL Ferrari to look like another model. No matter how well you do it (ie. stretch chassis, etc.) you are always going to have knowledgeable Ferrari people come up and go 'What a piece of crap ... etc', thus why not just make a real fast 308? Pete | ||
| Russ Turner (Snj5)
New member Username: Snj5 Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2003 |
Couple of interesting tech notes looking at the engine: Check out the (lack of) muffler (has glass-paks) - would make a tubi sound like a Caddy That is a 3200 airbox, but NOT a 3200 injection, at least not usa (No frequency valve. Has USA shielded exhaust. Not 3200 Microplex coils - looks to be digiplex from the coils. Wonder if the ecus stay hotter or cooler hanging out in the air above the token glasspak mufflers? Funky cold start injector not 3200 Not central hub wheels (note keyhole for cap) - I think these wheels are English aftermarket. Looks like a fun car - just not at $100k. Agree should really call it what it is: 308 GTB qv 'GTO-look' (a la Porsche factory 'Turbo-look'). Would love to hear it with the glass paks - hoo-boy! best to all Russ | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
Odd... never reported as registerd in SC!? Car is for sale on the coast, about 2.5 hours from me. MM | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3984 Registered: 5-2001 |
history is sketchy. Starts in 1996 with 21,500 Miles then 3 owners, so I am sure there were more like 5-6 owners. still a good deal if you ask me. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3983 Registered: 5-2001 |
the miles are incorrect: CARFAX searched over 2 billion records from nearly 800 sources and found 6 record(s) for this 1984 FERRARI 308GTS QUATTRO (ZFFUA13A5E0049499). Date: Odometer Reading: Source: General Comments: 02/01/1996 21,192 California Inspection Station Palmdale, CA Passed emissions inspection 03/29/2000 Washington Motor Vehicle Dept. Yakima, WA Title #0000000000 Title or registration issued Exempt from odometer reporting 04/10/2000 Washington Motor Vehicle Dept. Yakima, WA Title #0008947803 Title or registration issued Exempt from odometer reporting 05/14/2001 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Fort Lauderdale, FL Title #0083260772 Title issued New owner reported Exempt from odometer reporting 06/13/2001 Washington Motor Vehicle Dept. Yakima, WA Title #0008947803 Title or registration issued Exempt from odometer reporting 03/26/2002 Washington Motor Vehicle Dept. Yakima, WA Title #0008947803 Title issued New owner reported | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3982 Registered: 5-2001 |
The tail lights should be switched? They look right to me. the directional signals should be on the outside as far as I know. Ghee, I may be wrong here but then that requires a frew screws and the switch is made. I think this is one of the best I have seen and I am bidding on it. Would not mind having that car in my stable just for looks. Don't know what the deal is with the 348 engine. Looks like he means a 328 engine. Chassis was probably crashed at one point and is now being rebuilt. | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 166 Registered: 7-2002 |
This is chassis # 49499 a 1984 Ferrari 308 GTS that was conveted to the GTO and it has an 87 328 engine. Exterior looks ok but the interioir is dfinatly needing something Wade www.308qvregister.com | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 509 Registered: 5-2002 |
If we really want to get anal about it, why didn't he do the interior in the traditional black leather with the red inserts on the seats.. That alone would take the 308 interior look away. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 210 Registered: 6-2002 |
is it me, or does the rear look too tall? Also, they kept the transverse motor. Sloppy. They got close, but blew it on details. (like the lights, though those can of course be corrected easy.) I really want one of the proper 288 conversions though (complete with longitudinal turbo motor, making over 400hp. might be fun to use a more current, eg 348 or 355/360 drivetrain and turbocharge that.) Would be great fun, still very much a Ferrari, and I wouldn't be afraid to track/tweak it to even more power/brakes/suspension. The real exterior of a 288GTO is one of, if not THE most beautiful car in the world for me. Best! Ben. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 598 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hehe, good catch Ron. Didn't notice that one. The A column is red, should be black. And the wheels should not show the horse. But they get extra credit for the rearward opening hood, that's done very well; also the junction from the roof to the end is one piece and not 2 as it was with the 308/328. | ||
| Paul Cox (Paulc)
New member Username: Paulc Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2003 |
The GTO had a longer wheel base than the 308 in order to accomodate the gearbox | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 507 Registered: 5-2002 |
The builder didn't even put the tail lights the right way.. Amber lights outside. Brake lights inside. Aside from that the exterior is nice.. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 597 Registered: 10-2002 |
well, yes, the GTO has its gearbox where a 308/328 has its muffler Don't quite understand why they put that weird steering wheel on it. They paid so much attention to other details (note the European turn signals) and then that. Strange, but easy to fix. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2953 Registered: 9-2001 |
as far a the rear - if you look at the rear lower half it is easy to see it is not a 288 - they have a unique rear underbelly | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 595 Registered: 10-2002 |
What issues have you guys with the rear? It looks fairly real to me. Looks kinda high though and the engine cover is not authentic with its louvres, but close. But the rear looks just as it should. I think it is a fairly good rebody. The interior is pretty much as it has to be: Red instruments (hence from a 328) with the 308 switches, just as in the original. Not sure though, whether the tan leather ever was an option on the GTO. All GTOs I've ever seen had either black or red/black interiors, but not tan. OTOH my 1/18 GTO does have tan interior. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2108 Registered: 2-2001 |
$100k, LOL It probably cost at least that to build but he'd be lucky to get $35k for it. Clown | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002 |
I don't have a problem w/ rebodied cars, as long as you don't try to say it's a 288GTO. If you did the frame stretch, acurate body/interior and the longitudinal enigne/trans conversion... then that would be one sweet ride! As for the 348 engine, I don't think it's actually installed, as all the pics show a 3.2L(328) motor. I'd drive it.. but I would want to set some things right (strip the emblems, fix the rear, do the hatch, engine/trans, etc) But what do I know.. I'm not a ferrari owner hehe MM | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 329 Registered: 9-2001 |
I sometimes ask myself why people are doing such things... You must be a real bad poser: Everyone who knows just a little bit of Ferraris sees that this is not a 288 GTO. Pretty stupid not to tell in the ad. By the way: For this amount of money I can get a used 360 Modena with lets say 30000km here in Germany. Why should I buy this crap instead? Absolutely ridiculous.... Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller P.S. The back of the car looks awful. Wonder how bad a 308 handles on the track when having installed a 348 engine. Balance of the 308 chassis should be disturbed with this measure... | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2002 |
VIN is an 84 308QV. I asked the seller about the engine and am awaiting a reply. I'm not that far from the car actually.. i'd like to see it up close MM | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 686 Registered: 10-2001 |
Looks like a 308 with a 328 engine and a fake 288 GTO body..plus a spare 348 engine ? what a mess ! | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 694 Registered: 3-2001 |
Thats a 328 engine, 308 interior with 328 seats. 328 gauges with 308 tach. Lots of different 3 parts. | ||
| Sean F (Agracer)
New member Username: Agracer Post Number: 31 Registered: 2-2003 |
I was going to say the same. Except for the rear, it looks like a well done rebody. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1336 Registered: 2-2001 |
Looks like a 328 rebody to me. Ernesto | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 28 Registered: 11-2002 |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2406858287&category=6212 Listed as an 84 GTO (not 288GTO) w/ "348" engine, but the engine isn't a 348 motor. Also, the interior doesn't look correct (from what i've seen so far, i'm no F-car expert hehe) from the 30 page photo book of a GTO I got last year. Also states apraised at over 100K... sounds pretty high for a re-bodied (or retro bodied!? who would gut a real 288 GTO?). It looks nice, but the discription is a bit off it seems. Just an observation MM |