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PSk (Psk)
Member
Username: Psk
Post Number: 313
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 6:54 pm: | |
Please note that my comment regarding airbags are for idiots was supposed to mean that they were designed for people that STILL do not wear safety belts ... not that airbag supporters are idiots.
Sorry if this upset anybody.
Pete |
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 400
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 1:15 am: | |
quote:Yep airbags are for idiots that do not wear their safety belts ... I still cannot believe that people don't, but they are responsible for a very expensive and overly complicated invention that is NOT required.
No way! I honestly thought that people all wear seat belts nowadays. I can't imagine not having one on...even if I am only moving the car 10 feet....i feel almost as if I was missing an article of colthing.
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BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member
Username: Bretm
Post Number: 3324
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 1:07 am: | |
I'm a much bigger fan of social Darwinism than of steering wheel air bags, which doesn't say much. But seriously, if you don't wear your seat belt, should we as a society facilitate, if not encourage, your reproducing... |
PSk (Psk)
Member
Username: Psk
Post Number: 310
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 11:53 pm: | |
Yep airbags are for idiots that do not wear their safety belts ... I still cannot believe that people don't, but they are responsible for a very expensive and overly complicated invention that is NOT required.
Some people just do not have any brains ... but unfortunately they probably do not insist that their children wear a safety belt also ...
Pete |
Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member
Username: Bighead
Post Number: 65
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 11:47 pm: | |
Installing an airbag in a model is not just sticking in a wheel with a bag; it's a complete system, involving calculations of restraints and placements of padding, etc. etc. etc. Hence, no 348 nor TR/512TR/F512M was ever sold with an airbag(s).
As for motorized belts, the FedGov required them for 1990+ model years as a transitional safety item before airbags became mandatory. Hence, 1989 348TSs did not have motorized belts, but 1990+ models did. Convertibles were exempt from this requirement.
Kindly keep in mind that these requirements are US market specific only; hence Brian may have a 1994 355 without a bag (all 355s in the US are 1995+ model year designated).
As for having an "excellent looking" steering wheel, I removed the airbag wheel from my 355 and replaced it with a MOMO wheel (using a Challenge spacer and also a quick-disconnect). This improves the position of the wheel, particularly for track use, and gives me much more leg room (additional thigh clearance). I don't think safety is compromised very much, as I always wear my belt(s), and airbags are designed to be supplemental in any event.
vty,
--Dennis |
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 398
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:28 pm: | |
The original TRs had them(85), as did 348s(89), not sure of mondial Ts. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 991
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 10:11 pm: | |
When did they all get the motorized seatbelts? |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member
Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 486
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 9:38 pm: | |
Air bags are way preferable to motorized seatbelts as faras I am concerned.
Dave |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member
Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 106
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
The F512 M was never equipped with an airbag ... |
Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Member
Username: Onlinesys
Post Number: 265
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 5:10 am: | |
Everyone is getting the right answer!
All 95 models were installed with an Airbag. My 94' 456 is the very few ones without one. I am curious as well to see if any very late 348 spider or 512M had installed one. |
Brian Jackett (Brian_jackett)
New member
Username: Brian_jackett
Post Number: 34
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2003 - 1:40 am: | |
My F355 '94 has no air bags. Excellent has a real looking stearing wheel
Love it, hate airbags in any car. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 971
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:10 pm: | |
So this means you have to stay earlier then 94 to have a decent steering wheel? |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 434
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 2:11 pm: | |
All F50's are "1995 production" even though many deals were closed in 1996. Ferrari had to slip this in under the mandated 1996 air bag rule. F50's are passive restraints, no air bag, "built" in 1995 for US consumption. |
Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member
Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 648
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 11:01 am: | |
1995 |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member
Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 485
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:59 am: | |
In the 8 cylinders, it was the 355. 348's had motorized seatbelts in the US market. I'm not sure, but I think the 512M and 456 were the first 12 cylinders. I believe 95 was the year they became required in the US.
DAve |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1186
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:55 am: | |
I think it was the 355. |
Peter Sedlak (Peters)
Junior Member
Username: Peters
Post Number: 101
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2003 - 10:42 am: | |
I can not find this information. In specific, I would guess a 308 did not have one. What was the first model to sport an airbag? This will prompt my new shopping for a second car. |