| Author | Message | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2150 Registered: 9-2001 |
BMW offers an "M badge" delete option on its M cars for people who aren't into badges. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 533 Registered: 2-2003 |
I'd say, put them on if you like them (e.g., they set off a Red 355 very nicely), and even the stick-on ones are more elaborate than the decals or paint that went on the real racers, but, please, let's not be sanctimonius about "real" v. stick ons? To my way of thinking, there is no "real", unless you've got a Competizione whatever, and those enamel shields from the factory are just marketing strategy. In my youth, no one put them on Daytonas or BBs. Just my opinion. | ||
| Bert Kanters (Bert308)
New member Username: Bert308 Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
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| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2003 |
During installation, what if one were to continually chant: "I know that I am not worthy, I know I am not worthy", ONLY breaking into momentary silence just long enough to rip another piece of duct tape with their mouth??? Hey, it is Good Friday...See you guys later..P | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 44 Registered: 4-2003 |
Strickly taken, the "SF Shield" was reserved for works race entries and for Enzo's racing team entries (mainly Alfa Romeo's) before WW-2. Do they belong on road-going cars? Jack | ||
| Phil Bryson (Phildo)
Junior Member Username: Phildo Post Number: 114 Registered: 8-2002 |
I ran out to buy duct tape to put my shields on, but everyone was sold out.....? | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2003 |
Please tell us how you really feel. | ||
| Louis Goldstein (Lgoldstein)
New member Username: Lgoldstein Post Number: 13 Registered: 8-2002 |
It's true that you guys are free to stick whatever you want on your cars but that doesn't make it any more tasteful. In my opinion it's a shame that the factory started offering the sheilds on its series production road cars to meet the demands of the "gold chain" crowd. As James G says: "It's much like any badge some things earn the right to wear it, other's don't." | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1021 Registered: 10-2002 |
WM On my wife's Cayanne deleting the Cayanne badge is a no cost option as is deleting the ashtrays. Best Jim | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 39 Registered: 4-2003 |
http://www.scuderiamerchandise.com/index.html?target=p_25.html&lang=en-us (Tell me when to shut up...) Jack | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 3479 Registered: 8-2002 |
Thomas, get the regular stickers for $2 a pop - no body modifications required and they look nice... i have them on my car...  | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 932 Registered: 12-2001 |
Kind of silly on road cars, don't you agree? (Unless cars like the 250 SWB Sefac came with same, but not really a road car anyway).Do look pretty cool on those pre-war Alfas though. I tried to do a "scudie badge delete" option when i ordered the barchetta, and was basically told "bafongule." (For those of you who don't speak italian, or know somebody from brooklyn, its a nice way of saying go •••• yourself and the horse you rode in on.)/ | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2003 |
Also see: http://www.ferraristuff.com/en-us/pg_14.html | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1020 Registered: 10-2002 |
Frank The original shields were painted on. They were many different sizes. The first car Mr. Ferrari put them on wasn't a Ferrari. The horse was the goodluck symbol of a WWI Italian War Ace that the Ace's widow suggested might bring good luck to Mr Ferrari. Mr. Ferrari chose the background as it was the color of Modena. The SF of course stood for Competition Stable Ferrari. It's much like any badge some things earn the right to wear it, other's don't. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 769 Registered: 2-2002 |
IMHO this is like the "Is a Dino really a Ferrari?" argument. It is true that shields once were used on race cars only, but when Ferrari started offering them as an option on production cars that "rule" was broken. Since the factory has decided that shields are okay for production cars any owner should feel okay about putting them on any Ferrari they want. Some may feel that they are similar to curb feelers and aftermarket spoilers but the difference is that the Ferrari factory condones the use of shields. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2003 |
The analogy of fuzzy dice, rear wing, etc is known as a fallacy (flawed logic). Specifaically, it is known as a "Sliperry Slope". ie "If you do one, then it leads to, which leads to, etc.) We are talking about shields here (which I am somewhat indifferent about). Even the mere fact that it is not permenant and is reversable should mitigate any fears of what impact it will have on the value/showing of the car. This IMHO opinion falls into the same ctagory of: Red calipers?, Challenge grill/, etc....Not, "where do I mount my CB on the dash or in the console?" | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1134 Registered: 3-2001 |
Here we go again, shields or no shields??? For those of you interested in adding the Scudi badges, why stop there? Maybe you should consider adding Agip and Magneti Marelli stickers on the doors? This might draw more attention to the big wing you've bolted on the back. Oh, and don't forget the aero kit and curb feelers. Hey, it's your car, do what ever you want to it! | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
New member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2003 |
DrS, the files are too big to post on this site. I already tried. Email to me direct and I will send to you right away. My email is in the previous note. Will look for it. | ||
| John R. (Drstranglove)
New member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 14 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hey Paulie_b!!!! Can you post up a pic of your product!!!?!?!?!?! DrS | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
New member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 43 Registered: 1-2003 |
I forgot to mention in my previous note that the Scuderia Shields that I have are metal; not the plastic/resin type. They weigh approximately 8 ounces each. The can be installed with double stick tape (not duct tape), epoxy or they can be mounted by drilling 2 holes and screwing them from the inside of the fender. Most people elect to use double stick tape or epoxy. Martin had his done by recessing the area on his fender. Any questions gladly answered at [email protected] | ||
| John R. (Drstranglove)
New member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2003 |
I agree with Fanatic1. The only thing you need to remember is that it is YOUR car. And in fact, it is YOUR toy, to be sure. Do what ever you want!!! If you want to have it rased to a foot off the ground and neon lites under the doors, fine. (Personally I think that would be tacky as hell, but if it makes YOU feel good, then I say go for it!!!!) DrS | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
New member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 42 Registered: 1-2003 |
Hello Guys. Martin and Philip, thanks for the testimonial. My shields sell for $200 per pair. Would you rather spend $200 per pair or $800 per pair for "Ferrari" shields? Feel free to email me directly with any questions. [email protected] | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2141 Registered: 9-2001 |
Philip, $300 each was the price I was quoted from a Ferrari dealer when I was considering putting them on my ex-348. Now that was for the shield only and did not include the installation. | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Junior Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2003 |
Frank, the shields that you are referring to for 300.00 may look exactly like the "original factory shields" they are beautiful....but to order a set of OEM shields from a ferrari dealer cost about 800.00 per shield....Paul Bianco's are Beautiful for about 250.00 per shield but if your going to be technical they are not "authorized ferrari" parts. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1661 Registered: 7-2001 |
Martin is right, the enamel shields are a factory option on the newer cars. They come complete with the factory 'indent' on the fender. There are some around that have been done aftermarket, but the majority of the late model cars are factory. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2140 Registered: 9-2001 |
James, you can buy the original enamel shields like the ones that came on the 288GTOs, F40, F50s and later 355s, 360s, 550s,575Ms and Enzos from Ferrari, TRutlands and various other places for about $300 each. You then have to have a bodyman recess your fenders and mount them. You are correct that the racing Ferraris of the 1950s,1960s and 1970s had sticker/decal type shields. But, they were much larger than the new small enamel and sticker shields now used. | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Junior Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 115 Registered: 2-2003 |
Martin, you and James are right on....I think the point James was trying to make is how feeble an argument it is to label something "real".....especially the shields...as he stated the "real" ones were originally decals......the newer resin stickers are in fact "Ferrari Authorized" and the paper they come on is "ferrari" paper....James G. is too much of a gentlemen to be as confrontational as some of the other people.....but to echo his sentiment, if you like the shields put them on.....these cars are beautiful but certainly there is room for a little self expression. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4367 Registered: 5-2001 |
James, actually on all the old ones the shields are stickers, right? I think what Frank is referring to is that those are the enamel shields, like Ferrari puts them as a factory option. The stickers, even the ones with the ressin, that are so popular, are also Ferrari original stickers. The enamle shields from Ferrari are $800 a pop as far as I know. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2003 |
Fred, seriously duct tape? Seems as if it would be a litle thick, thus raising the shield away from the fender? How about that aluminium tape, really thin but what about possible damage to the paint??? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1019 Registered: 10-2002 |
Experts, Experts... Frank you are quite wrong. The only real ones are the ones that were put on by the Ferrari factory. In some cases such as on my P4, the sheilds that the Factory put on were decals and required no body modification. If putting shields on your car makes you happy great but it is no more original than a set of fuzzy dice hanging form the rear view mirror | ||
| Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
Member Username: Iluv4res Post Number: 372 Registered: 8-2002 |
Duct tape, definitely duct tape........... | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4364 Registered: 5-2001 |
Frank, you don't have to, you can also double tape them. Looks much better if you recess them but lot of $$$ to do. MArtin | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2139 Registered: 9-2001 |
The $300 shiels are the real ones that have to be recessed into the fender by a professional body man. But, it seems like it is the same ones that poke fun at the Honda crowd for their "R" and "S" badges yet they get all excited about putting a Ferrari Scuderia sticker on a non-racing Ferrari. | ||
| Heiko (Hgparts)
Junior Member Username: Hgparts Post Number: 88 Registered: 3-2003 |
check the webshop for the stickes http://stores.andale.com/hgparts heiko sponsor of ferrari chat | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4363 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think Thomas is talking about the enamel shields you can double tape to the car. As for your question, I did that and no, I don't think it is tacky. I like them a lot more than the glue on resin ones for $8 a pop. Looks much more refined. Get in touch with Paul Bianco, he sells them and I think below what you have seen them there. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 61 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, I have seen the stickers. Now that is tacky for sure..No pun intended. These were 3-4 mill thick shields, but for maounting you used double sided tape. | ||
| John R. (Drstranglove)
New member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2003 |
I know that the "badges" as I think they are called can be had from FAF Atlanta for a whopping $8 each!!!!! DrS | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 60 Registered: 4-2003 |
I do not have the link, but the other day I saw "Stick On" Shields. They wanted around $250 $300 for the pair. Is it just me or does it seem like attaching the sheilds with double sided tape seem a little tacky. |