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SRA (Sranderson)
Junior Member Username: Sranderson
Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 6:08 pm: | |
This car does NOT give me a woodie (hahaha) But it does look like it started life as a conversion van (wonder if it can pull a trailer) |
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Junior Member Username: Malfark
Post Number: 240 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:24 am: | |
Ooooh! NASTY.... Al Dino should be had up for Crimes Against Humanity. MARK |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 577 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:54 am: | |
Andreas, As long as I know all laser speed traps in Germany are from Leica. Also a swiss company: Sometimes I think some swiss people are even more german than most germans Dozens of speed traps, mobile emission testing etc. Sounds stricter than in Germany to me... Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller
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Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_uk
Post Number: 247 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:47 am: | |
I thought that Jeep Wagoneer sticky wood was supposed to fixed to the outside...?! |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 904 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:35 am: | |
Jens, actually I went to college in St. Gallen (Betriebswirtschaft), but spent my weekends in Zurich testing the latest radar detector on one of the many speed traps, peppered all over the city. In between we'd be gawking at the latest Rinspeed creations. Sick, I know, and never grew up... To my shame I have to admit I'm actually from Uster, the town in which Zellweger's headquarters and engineering department is located. For those who don't know: Zellweger are the friendly folks who make all the speed trap units based on radar technology (basically everything except laser instant-on guns). |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 576 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:13 am: | |
Andreas, Zürich: What a wonderful city! Have been there at the ETH for several congresses when I was still studying! Typically the technicians and engineers have been remotely moved to H�nggerberg while the rest of the ETH has such a nice location overviewing the lake (and nice female students of university of Zürich near by!). In which part of the city did you live? Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 903 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:02 am: | |
Jens, my German has to be right, after all it is my mother language. Well, almost: I'm Swiss from the suburbs of Zurich. Hence Rinspeed spoiled me for life and Zehnder, Koenig, Hamann and Becker are my gods. Pininfarina and Bertone only their mere servants...
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 575 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:59 am: | |
Andreas, Great you got it right! By the way: Are you from Germany? If yes, where do you come from? If not, good german! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 901 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:28 am: | |
Jens, no worries, no offense taken. Wir sind ja unter Freunden... Ralph, not totally sure on this, but I think Ferraris in Germany/Europe had Blaupunkt radios, so that part wouldn't be so unoriginal. I forgot to mention the source of the picture, it is from a Koenig brochure from the eighties. Also known in my home as 'the Bible'.
Unfortunately I can't find any numbers on what the original kit for the BBi cost. Knowing Koenig I would assume it went into the ten thousands of Deutschmarks. So if you're perverted enough, you could buy the Fiero, strip it of the Koenig kit and attach those panels to your 512 BBi. You would get a bargain, that I'm quite certain. Your friends would also have you delivered to the funny farm... |
James Angle (Jimangle)
New member Username: Jimangle
Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:13 am: | |
It's a good thing the rear suspension is off a 1988 fiero. The damn 86's were squirly. For that reason alone, I think I'll buy it. |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 570 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 3:36 am: | |
Andreas, Mea culpa maxima! I ment that if you recognise the kit car at ebay as a K�nig it�s just one more proof how K�nig spoils Pininfarina designs. Of course it�s everybodies personal preference/taste whether they like extremely wide cars or cars with virtually dozens of additional front/rear spoilers etc. It was absolutely no offense ment with my post. Variety is the spice of life, I guess!!! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 125 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:16 pm: | |
The Blaupunkt radio really brings out the Euro-Flavor thing. Did RE ever put a German Radio in his cars ? Of course he could have put a Pioneer Radio with equalizer in the thing and made it a little more original. The interior does not flow very well though ? Lets see what we have: 1. A custom Zillion dollar hand-made wood panel, 2. Blaupunkt German Radio, 3. GM airconditioner control panel ( Pontiac Fiero era ) ? + GM door handles 4. gauges that seem out of place. 5. Auto Zone or Wal Mart Ferrari steering wheel. I probably also missed a few other items. Does the poor fool that payed 60K have any idea what you can purchase for that kind of money ? Ralph |
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member Username: Ralfabco
Post Number: 124 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:02 pm: | |
Only one question ? Will it beat a Supra ? And those lawn mower gauges need to go. That will really draw in the bidders to this rare 1 in 10 collectable.
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Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 899 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 5:53 pm: | |
Obviously it is pointless to argue about taste or the lack thereof, but you gotta admit, that this Fiero is a pretty good replica of a Koenig version of a 512BBi: At least on the outside. On the inside the Fiero has trouble matching the Koenig just as a real 512BBi would: 650 HP twin turbo 0-60 mph in 4.0 sec topspeed of 330 km/h I like it (the real thing, not the Fiero), but I never claimed to have much taste (see my profile)...
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Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:02 pm: | |
what the heck was that? kill it before it multiplies! the front looks like a Boxer; everything else can go. |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 568 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:56 am: | |
Andreas, One more proof how cruel K�nig spoils the wonderful designs of Pininfarina! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 888 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:18 am: | |
I have to say I like it from the outside. That does look like one of the Koenigs from the late eighties. ...however once you open the door the story takes a dive |
stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member Username: Balataboy
Post Number: 443 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:10 am: | |
There's a REASON only 10 were made.... |
William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist
Post Number: 913 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:45 am: | |
Here's another reason that original Pontiac Fiero's are becoming collector items. To each his own I guess. |
ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member Username: Ross
Post Number: 1185 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:27 am: | |
i am speechless........and somebody is willing to pay nearly 12 grand for the POS ! there's a sucker born every minute i guess. |
melo yelo (Meloyelo)
Junior Member Username: Meloyelo
Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:18 am: | |
I think it needs to have FAKE Pantera badging and A Woody badge on the interior. Interior reminds me of a 1974 Torino station wagon. Ferrari does not even need to be mentioned. yuk. my |
philip (Fanatic1)
Junior Member Username: Fanatic1
Post Number: 212 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:53 am: | |
Wow, truly beautiful!! How many times in one ad can you say VERY RARE!!! I'm calling FNA right now to thank Mr. Al Dino for putting all his design skills to such good work..........LMAO |
Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member Username: Agracer
Post Number: 118 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:34 am: | |
"There is enough wood in there to redo the Texas A&M bonfire." One can only pray and hope it will someday come back. |
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315
Post Number: 526 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:49 am: | |
Haha! |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 567 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:40 am: | |
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Al Dino? Sounds like a waiter of a Sbarro restaurant! Ohhh, stop they don�t have waiters there, right? What a joke! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless
Post Number: 66 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:49 am: | |
I think the Al Dino is a typo, I think he meant Al Dente! |
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member Username: Pupz308
Post Number: 354 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:46 am: | |
What the?! People are bidding on this?!?! $11,211.00? I am at a loss for words.
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Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 708 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:44 pm: | |
Pass the Tums please. |
Dave Goldman (Dave328)
Junior Member Username: Dave328
Post Number: 152 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:18 pm: | |
Oh my sweet Lord!!!!! I feel ill, I think I need to go lie down now...... Dave |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member Username: Drstranglove
Post Number: 211 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:54 pm: | |
Yep!!!! http://www.aldinokit.com/ http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=2453 DrS |
Frank Foster (Sparta49)
Member Username: Sparta49
Post Number: 522 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:48 pm: | |
So would this be a Boxerossa or a Testoxer or just a plain old fashion piece of sh@t? |
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 259 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:34 pm: | |
It is an Aldino (one-word) kit, but it wasn't designed by anyone remotely related to Ferrari (feign shock now). It's actually a "prized" kit and was recently re-introduced. |
Dave Trbizan (Davidt)
New member Username: Davidt
Post Number: 50 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:33 pm: | |
Waite............No, I still don't get it. |
bryan windham (Weekender)
New member Username: Weekender
Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:08 pm: | |
see the seller? o j in the car business now? |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 759 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 7:56 pm: | |
Pretty sweet. I haven't seen an interior like that since I was in my uncle's RV. |
Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
New member Username: Bumboola
Post Number: 29 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:35 pm: | |
He is the head Farrari designer! What are you, stupid? |
Jason Wesoky (Wesokyjb)
Junior Member Username: Wesokyjb
Post Number: 91 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:33 pm: | |
Looks like a 512BBi got drunk one night and slept with a Countach 5000s. For $60k you can buy a 348 Spider, a 250GTE, a mediocre 512BBi and a whole lot of toyta Supras to sup up. Hell, give me $60k and I'll buy a sailboat in Mexico and retire to giving drunk rich americans sail boat tours. |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member Username: Drstranglove
Post Number: 209 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:28 pm: | |
Who in the world is Al DIno?????? DrS |
Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2948 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:17 pm: | |
I wonder how many cabinets gave their lives to make that interior trim and paneling.... |
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member Username: Questioner
Post Number: 577 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:42 pm: | |
There is enough wood in there to redo the Texas A&M bonfire. I wonder if you get a case of Old English furniture polish if you buy the car? This is one Allan can use to compare numbers on. Probably 0-60 mph in about 42 seconds with all the extra plastic and wood used here. |
Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm
Post Number: 296 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:34 pm: | |
I want to see the boat he cut up to "build" his interior. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1758 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:20 pm: | |
I can't believe all the Ferrari info I've read, and I've never heard of Al Dino. Hey Frank, is he the one that designed all those V8 cars? |
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 547 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:19 pm: | |
1986 Porsche Red. NO! |
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 257 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:14 pm: | |
Forget the wood trim, I love how the striped seat inserts are carried over to the top of the door panel. |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 122 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
Is that real plywood trim? Nice! |
Chris F. (Dallasguy)
Junior Member Username: Dallasguy
Post Number: 121 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:05 pm: | |
Thats almost obscene. First for creating something that looks like that and second for spending $60K for it. |
Chris Brody (Cbrody)
Junior Member Username: Cbrody
Post Number: 124 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:01 pm: | |
I've seen this car out by me one day.... it was a nice summer day too when there were plenty of real ferrari's driving around out here. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 666 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:53 pm: | |
How can anyone be so stupid to invest $60,000 in this piece of junk, when, for a little more, one could have bought the real thing? |
James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:49 pm: | |
UGGGGGGG!!! James |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 494 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:47 pm: | |
I'm glad only 10 were made, hopefully this is the only one left. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2414387644&category=7251 |