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SRA (Sranderson)
Junior Member
Username: Sranderson

Post Number: 60
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 6:08 pm:   

This car does NOT give me a woodie (hahaha)

But it does look like it started life as a conversion van (wonder if it can pull a trailer)
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Junior Member
Username: Malfark

Post Number: 240
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:24 am:   

Ooooh! NASTY.... Al Dino should be had up for Crimes Against Humanity. MARK
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 577
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:54 am:   

Andreas,

As long as I know all laser speed traps in Germany are from Leica. Also a swiss company:
Sometimes I think some swiss people are even more german than most germans :-)
Dozens of speed traps, mobile emission testing etc.
Sounds stricter than in Germany to me...




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrari_uk

Post Number: 247
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:47 am:   

I thought that Jeep Wagoneer sticky wood was supposed to fixed to the outside...?!
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 904
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:35 am:   

Jens, actually I went to college in St. Gallen (Betriebswirtschaft), but spent my weekends in Zurich testing the latest radar detector on one of the many speed traps, peppered all over the city. In between we'd be gawking at the latest Rinspeed creations. Sick, I know, and never grew up...

To my shame I have to admit I'm actually from Uster, the town in which Zellweger's headquarters and engineering department is located. For those who don't know: Zellweger are the friendly folks who make all the speed trap units based on radar technology (basically everything except laser instant-on guns).
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 576
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:13 am:   

Andreas,

Zürich: What a wonderful city! Have been there at the ETH for several congresses when I was still studying!
Typically the technicians and engineers have been remotely moved to H�nggerberg while the rest of the ETH has such a nice location overviewing the lake (and nice female students of university of Zürich near by!).
In which part of the city did you live?




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 903
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 9:02 am:   

Jens,

my German has to be right, after all it is my mother language. Well, almost: I'm Swiss from the suburbs of Zurich. Hence Rinspeed spoiled me for life and Zehnder, Koenig, Hamann and Becker are my gods. Pininfarina and Bertone only their mere servants...

:-)
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 575
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:59 am:   

Andreas,

Great you got it right!
By the way: Are you from Germany? If yes, where do you come from? If not, good german! :-)


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 901
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:28 am:   

Jens, no worries, no offense taken. Wir sind ja unter Freunden...

Ralph, not totally sure on this, but I think Ferraris in Germany/Europe had Blaupunkt radios, so that part wouldn't be so unoriginal.

I forgot to mention the source of the picture, it is from a Koenig brochure from the eighties. Also known in my home as 'the Bible'.
:-)

Unfortunately I can't find any numbers on what the original kit for the BBi cost. Knowing Koenig I would assume it went into the ten thousands of Deutschmarks. So if you're perverted enough, you could buy the Fiero, strip it of the Koenig kit and attach those panels to your 512 BBi. You would get a bargain, that I'm quite certain.

Your friends would also have you delivered to the funny farm...
James Angle (Jimangle)
New member
Username: Jimangle

Post Number: 44
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:13 am:   

It's a good thing the rear suspension is off a 1988 fiero. The damn 86's were squirly. For that reason alone, I think I'll buy it.
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 570
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 3:36 am:   

Andreas,

Mea culpa maxima! I ment that if you recognise the kit car at ebay as a K�nig it�s just one more proof how K�nig spoils Pininfarina designs.
Of course it�s everybodies personal preference/taste whether they like extremely wide cars or cars with virtually dozens of additional front/rear spoilers etc.
It was absolutely no offense ment with my post.
Variety is the spice of life, I guess!!! :-)



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member
Username: Ralfabco

Post Number: 125
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:16 pm:   

The Blaupunkt radio really brings out the Euro-Flavor thing. Did RE ever put a German Radio in his cars ? Of course he could have put a Pioneer
Radio with equalizer in the thing and made it a little more original.

The interior does not flow very well though ? Lets see what we have:

1. A custom Zillion dollar hand-made wood panel, 2. Blaupunkt German Radio,
3. GM airconditioner control panel ( Pontiac Fiero era ) ? + GM door handles
4. gauges that seem out of place.
5. Auto Zone or Wal Mart Ferrari steering wheel.


I probably also missed a few other items.

Does the poor fool that payed 60K have any idea
what you can purchase for that kind of money ?

Ralph
Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member
Username: Ralfabco

Post Number: 124
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:02 pm:   

Only one question ? Will it beat a Supra ?

And those lawn mower gauges need to go. That
will really draw in the bidders to this rare
1 in 10 collectable.

Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 899
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 5:53 pm:   

Obviously it is pointless to argue about taste or the lack thereof, but you gotta admit, that this Fiero is a pretty good replica of a Koenig version of a 512BBi:Upload

At least on the outside. On the inside the Fiero has trouble matching the Koenig just as a real 512BBi would:

650 HP twin turbo
0-60 mph in 4.0 sec
topspeed of 330 km/h

I like it (the real thing, not the Fiero), but I never claimed to have much taste (see my profile)...
:-)
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member
Username: Paulie_b

Post Number: 75
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:02 pm:   

what the heck was that? kill it before it multiplies! the front looks like a Boxer; everything else can go.
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 568
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:56 am:   

Andreas,

One more proof how cruel K�nig spoils the wonderful designs of Pininfarina! :-)


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 888
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:18 am:   

I have to say I like it from the outside. That does look like one of the Koenigs from the late eighties.

...however once you open the door the story takes a dive
stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member
Username: Balataboy

Post Number: 443
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:10 am:   

There's a REASON only 10 were made....
William Huber (Solipsist)
Member
Username: Solipsist

Post Number: 913
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:45 am:   

Here's another reason that original Pontiac Fiero's are becoming collector items. To each his own I guess.
ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member
Username: Ross

Post Number: 1185
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:27 am:   

i am speechless........and somebody is willing to pay nearly 12 grand for the POS ! there's a sucker born every minute i guess.
melo yelo (Meloyelo)
Junior Member
Username: Meloyelo

Post Number: 75
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 9:18 am:   

I think it needs to have FAKE Pantera badging and A Woody badge on the interior. Interior reminds me of a 1974 Torino station wagon.

Ferrari does not even need to be mentioned.

yuk.

my
philip (Fanatic1)
Junior Member
Username: Fanatic1

Post Number: 212
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:53 am:   

Wow, truly beautiful!! How many times in one ad can you say VERY RARE!!! I'm calling FNA right now to thank Mr. Al Dino for putting all his design skills to such good work..........LMAO
Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member
Username: Agracer

Post Number: 118
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:34 am:   

"There is enough wood in there to redo the Texas A&M bonfire."

One can only pray and hope it will someday come back.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member
Username: Lion315

Post Number: 526
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:49 am:   

Haha!
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member
Username: Jh280774

Post Number: 567
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:40 am:   

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,

Al Dino? Sounds like a waiter of a Sbarro restaurant! Ohhh, stop they don�t have waiters there, right?

What a joke!




Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member
Username: Sparetireless

Post Number: 66
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:49 am:   

I think the Al Dino is a typo, I think he meant Al Dente!
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member
Username: Pupz308

Post Number: 354
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:46 am:   

What the?! People are bidding on this?!?! $11,211.00?

I am at a loss for words.


Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member
Username: Fred

Post Number: 708
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:44 pm:   

Pass the Tums please.
Dave Goldman (Dave328)
Junior Member
Username: Dave328

Post Number: 152
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   

Oh my sweet Lord!!!!! I feel ill, I think I need to go lie down now......

Dave
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member
Username: Drstranglove

Post Number: 211
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:54 pm:   

Yep!!!!

http://www.aldinokit.com/

http://www.kitcars.com/Classifieds/AdDetails.asp?classified_id=2453


DrS
Frank Foster (Sparta49)
Member
Username: Sparta49

Post Number: 522
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:48 pm:   

So would this be a Boxerossa or a Testoxer or just a plain old fashion piece of sh@t?
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member
Username: Deleteall

Post Number: 259
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:34 pm:   

It is an Aldino (one-word) kit, but it wasn't designed by anyone remotely related to Ferrari (feign shock now). It's actually a "prized" kit and was recently re-introduced.
Dave Trbizan (Davidt)
New member
Username: Davidt

Post Number: 50
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:33 pm:   

Waite............No, I still don't get it.
bryan windham (Weekender)
New member
Username: Weekender

Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 8:08 pm:   

see the seller? o j in the car business now?
Jack (Gilles27)
Member
Username: Gilles27

Post Number: 759
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 7:56 pm:   

Pretty sweet. I haven't seen an interior like that since I was in my uncle's RV.
Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
New member
Username: Bumboola

Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:35 pm:   

He is the head Farrari designer!

What are you, stupid?
Jason Wesoky (Wesokyjb)
Junior Member
Username: Wesokyjb

Post Number: 91
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:33 pm:   

Looks like a 512BBi got drunk one night and slept with a Countach 5000s. For $60k you can buy a 348 Spider, a 250GTE, a mediocre 512BBi and a whole lot of toyta Supras to sup up. Hell, give me $60k and I'll buy a sailboat in Mexico and retire to giving drunk rich americans sail boat tours.
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member
Username: Drstranglove

Post Number: 209
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:28 pm:   

Who in the world is Al DIno??????


DrS
Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member
Username: Timn88

Post Number: 2948
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 6:17 pm:   

I wonder how many cabinets gave their lives to make that interior trim and paneling....
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member
Username: Questioner

Post Number: 577
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:42 pm:   

There is enough wood in there to redo the Texas A&M bonfire. I wonder if you get a case of Old English furniture polish if you buy the car? This is one Allan can use to compare numbers on. Probably 0-60 mph in about 42 seconds with all the extra plastic and wood used here.
Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member
Username: Dougm

Post Number: 296
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:34 pm:   

I want to see the boat he cut up to "build" his interior.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 1758
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:20 pm:   

I can't believe all the Ferrari info I've read, and I've never heard of Al Dino. Hey Frank, is he the one that designed all those V8 cars?
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor

Post Number: 547
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:19 pm:   

1986 Porsche Red.

NO!
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Member
Username: Deleteall

Post Number: 257
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   

Forget the wood trim, I love how the striped seat inserts are carried over to the top of the door panel.
Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member
Username: Jeff_m

Post Number: 122
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:07 pm:   

Is that real plywood trim? Nice!
Chris F. (Dallasguy)
Junior Member
Username: Dallasguy

Post Number: 121
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:05 pm:   

Thats almost obscene. First for creating something that looks like that and second for spending $60K for it.
Chris Brody (Cbrody)
Junior Member
Username: Cbrody

Post Number: 124
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 5:01 pm:   

I've seen this car out by me one day.... it was a nice summer day too when there were plenty of real ferrari's driving around out here.
Henryk (Henryk)
Member
Username: Henryk

Post Number: 666
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:53 pm:   

How can anyone be so stupid to invest $60,000 in this piece of junk, when, for a little more, one could have bought the real thing?
James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member
Username: Madmaxx

Post Number: 117
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   

UGGGGGGG!!!

James
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member
Username: Enzo

Post Number: 494
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2003 - 4:47 pm:   

I'm glad only 10 were made, hopefully this is the only one left.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2414387644&category=7251

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