| Author | Message | ||
| Hunter Schultz (308faq)
New member Username: 308faq Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hi, Len Miller is/was the keeper of the 250GTE Register. Hunter | ||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 97 Registered: 8-2002 |
The following is my entry from a thread on Tom Yang's site last month discussing the survival rate of 1960s Ferrari 2+2s versus 2 seaters - I have some production numbers in there. "I dug up some production numbers last night and put them together w/ Kerry's and Kurt's estimates for surviving 330 2+2s and PF Coupes. (The name of the person keeping the 250GTE register escapes me - could he hazard a guess?) 250 PF Coupes - 353 made - 175 to 200 surviving as PF Coupes? 250GTE - 954 made - ___ surviving as GTEs? 250 Lusso - 350 made 330 GT 2+2 - 1139 made - 579 surviving (I subtracted the 47 recreations from Kerry's 55% guesstimate survival rate) 330 GTC - 600 made 365 GTC - 150 made 365 GT 2+2 - 801 made - ___ surviving as Queen Mothers? So for some examples - PF Coupes vs. Lussos. There must certainly be more Lussos running around than 175 surviving PF Coupes. No one I know of is chopping up Lussos, parting them out, or just deciding that they are not worth restoring. So is the more plentiful Lusso really worth more than the rarer Coupe with the same motor (at least the last 150 Coupes w/ the outside plug)? Is the Lusso sexier? Sure, but I swear part of the market pricing, valuing the Lusso at more than twice a Coupe, is based on the erroneous assumption that there are a lot more Coupes than Lussos and it is simply not the case. 330GT 2+2s vs 330 GTCs - same thing. Possibly 579 surviving +2s compared to a likely high rate of surviving GTCs of the 600 made. Unless someone completely totals a GTC beyond repair, GTCs aren't turning to dust - the pool of survivors is probably fairly fixed. The same cannot be said for the +2s, so a large percentage of the basket case +2s might never be brought back to original condition. My point is (and not to sound too melodramatic) that we hardy few who spend more money than is economically logical saving these cars, not only do it for the passion, but because we are the custodians of what may end up being the rarest of production Ferraris - the 2+2s. keep it up" | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1365 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hans I doubt it still is. Many of these rebodied cars are for sale at a price that is less than you could build a "250GTO" or "TR". That said it isn't economic to restore a basketcase 250GTE either. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3666 Registered: 9-2001 |
they don't even know how many were built exactly and you want to know how many remain - good luck  | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1317 Registered: 4-2002 |
Do you suppose this is still true? Doing a rebody on cars isn't cheap (if well done), so it was practical during the "Great Collector Car Bubble" of years past. I wonder if the numbers still crunch. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 930 Registered: 10-2001 |
One thing is sure , 250 GTE , 330 GT and Americas are being butchered ...  | ||
| Bob Zambelli (Zam330)
New member Username: Zam330 Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2001 |
As we know, many of the older 12 cylinder cars were made in limited quantities, from one-off to a few hundred. Has anyone ever done a study on how many of a given model are left? For example, I'm pretty sure that 600 330 GTCs were built - how many are still with us????????? Food for thought? Bob Z |