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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 631
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 3:35 pm:   

I did not personally install the system. It is basicly 2 75hp nitrous kits combined. It is a dry system, 2 nozzles fit into the air intake. When the system is armed, nitrous only comes on under full throttle, and in turn sends a pulse to the fuel presure regulator bumping up the fuel pressure. It is not the most powerful setup, but it works without any problems. There is a new computer controlled setup, that shoots nitrous in through the fuel injectors which is supposed to be the best.
John Fiore (Johnbob)
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Username: Johnbob

Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 3:25 pm:   

Alan, Did you install the system? I would like to hear the details regarding design and installation.
Thanks,
John
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 626
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 1:34 pm:   

John, ive been runinng a 150shot on my Diablo for years. Never had a problem. Just make sure you have enough fuel.
John Fiore (Johnbob)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 9:27 am:   

NOS sells a kit that is designed for 75 - 100 HP gains. This particular set up installs just above the carburator inlet inside the air filter housing. I thought this would work well on my 86 TR since it could be fitted to the stock airbox just downstream of the air filter. Again looking for 100 HP, comments?
Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
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Username: Euro308guy

Post Number: 382
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 8:04 am:   

please allow me to quite a few rumors here.
I own a Norwood 348 Twin Turbo. I've had the opportunity to personally spend some time at Norwoods and personally speak with BOB. The speculation of what may or may not be happening with Bob Norwood and Norwood performance here is way out of line. Yes, James Patterson runs the place. He is now at least part owner too. He has been working with Bob for many years and knows exactly what he's doing.
You can critique his work if you like, but if you SPEAK with him you'll qickly realize the extreme depth of his knowledge. His cars are great. As a matter of fact several F-Chatter's had the chance to see me 348 TT by Norwoods at the Memphis show. The car is FAST. The few issues with the car so far have been unrelated to the Norwoods mods.
Bob is a BRILLIANT guy. He still does some consulting and even a little wrench turning there as of a few months ago. James is MORE THAN capable. I'd recommend a tour for anyone in the area.
As far as the quality of the work, here's a pic:




Alan, I don't know which Norwood car you supposedly saw, but if you'd care to swing by Memphis, I'd be glad to show you mine. I'll even offer you a RIDE. I think you'll change your mind. I've been fortunate to be in many Ferraris. I love them all. Nothing drives as thrilling as my 348 Twin Turbo!Upload
Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
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Username: Turboqv

Post Number: 39
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 1:16 am:   

if it is done wisely, Nitrous is wonderful!!

1. lowers induction temperatures (this is good!)
2. spools turbo quickly to minimize lag

Engines should be built for it however for applications above 100hp.

nitrous does not blow up engines, idiots blow up engines expecting way too much.

The use of nitrous oxide (N20) as a performance enhancement has been traced back to World War II, where it was employed to give Allied aircraft "emergency" boosts in both airspeed and altitude capabilities.

Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 868
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 12:50 am:   

"NO is easy and does not wreck the car like other mods"

So it wrecks it less.......is that what you are saying?

I cann't see ANYTHING "good" that could be done to the car out of this!!!!!!!

billy bob (Fatbillybob)
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Username: Fatbillybob

Post Number: 295
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 12:44 am:   

K jet TR's are easiest to NO. NO is easy and does not wreck the car like other mods. Forget the 1000hp. NO will safely get you 40% increases. After that you need to do more tricks which means more compromises. I have NO'ed several F's
Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 857
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 6:57 pm:   

If you want a TR to go faster, then trade it in for a 512 TR, etc, etc........

I can't help but notice that everytime I read about a twin turbo TR, with 800-1,000HP, it is FOR SALE!!!!!!! Ever wonder why??????

If you want THAT kind of exotic setup, then save for the F40.

Just MY thoughts.
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 624
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 6:38 pm:   

Sounds to me like a Ferrari owner who wants his car to run the way it was supposed to.
Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 851
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   

A TR with Nitrous!!!!!!! Sounds to me like a Ricer owner with extra money!!!!!!
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1365
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:59 pm:   

Jim,

It's been something like over ten years! They still haven't sorted the friggin' car yet?!
Of course the guy who owns it will say great things about it. He's trying to sell it! :-)

I think you and JR are right. I asked because I too had heard that Bob Norwood was out of the picture entirely.

Paul,

Do they sell these kits as a package or are they custom building it and figuring things out as they go along? Intercooler looks kind of small. How many bar is the turbo going to be operating in? Should be pretty kick ass when it's done though.

Cheers
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Username: Allanlambo

Post Number: 622
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:49 pm:   

Ive seen some of Norwoods work, and the quality, leaves alot to be desired.
Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
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Username: Turboqv

Post Number: 36
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   

yes guys, the silver thing is a SPEARCO core air/water intercooler setup. James took that pic so i could ok the location and size of the intercooler. It will be welded together and powder coated silver to match the exhaust.

Bob and the dyno are still there. Bob concentrates on other things, but still enjoys the final tuning.

Chris Pounds (Eggman)
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Username: Eggman

Post Number: 95
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 9:18 am:   

JRV - Looks like an intercooler. Not sure what the front/rear duct-tape contraptions are, but it looks like some temporary air guides (?)

Chris
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Username: Jim_schad

Post Number: 1498
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 9:11 am:   

Taek: that 1000hp TR is still in Dallas and was at Norwoods back in June last time I was there. It is/was for sale. It had a problem with a cylinder leak of 100% so it needs some work. The guy that owns it told me it will out run crotch rockets on the highway in a straight line.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Username: Jim_schad

Post Number: 1497
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 9:10 am:   

JRV you are correct. Not sure if they still have some type of working agreement though.
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 1849
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 8:28 am:   

Paul,

what's the big silver thing by the engine?

Thought I read a thread on this very board stating the Dyno & Bob were gone and moved north somewhere?
Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
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Username: Turboqv

Post Number: 35
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 2:33 am:   

Norwood is very much in business, Bob Norwood sold his business to James Patterson who worked for Norwood for a number of years. It is now Norwood Performance. Bob (NORWOOD) still tunes the cars on the dyno.

They are nearing completion of my 308 Upload
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
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Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 1355
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:47 am:   

Does Bob Norwood even work in Norwoods anymore?

Anyone dealt with his stuff? I remember reading about a twin turbo testarossa a while back in some magazine (R&T?). The car had so many issues they weren't able to provide performance figures for the entire week the magazine had to test it. They came up with waaaay short horsepower figures and stuff.

I heard that he sold the business out to someone. Can't imagine staying in business much longer after getting creamed in public like that...

Cheers
Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
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Username: Euro308guy

Post Number: 381
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 12:01 am:   

Norwoods may have experience ehere. In fact, I believe they do.
Give James Patterson a call. I bet he could answer your questions and perhaps do an install for you.
J
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 1846
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:36 pm:   

It's relitively easy and a real Kick in the Ass and the sound is incredible !

Did a number of Nitrous Kits back when these were still cars and hadn't elivated to investment yet.

I say go for it, start out easy and work your way up.

I like the shifter handle button version rather than completely hidden myself.
John Fiore (Johnbob)
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Username: Johnbob

Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 7:36 pm:   

Has anyone out there had experience installing a nitrous set up on a Testarossa? Looking for 100HP boost. Would like to have it hidden.

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