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| Frederick D. Rauch (C4fdr)
New member Username: C4fdr Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2003 |
A version of these shoes are in Griot's Garage catalog number 154 http://www.griotsgarage.com/search.jsp?searchtext=55295&search.x=10&search.y=9 FDR | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2519 Registered: 2-2001 |
Idling's pretty bad for a car from my experiences. I would not run it at all as opposed to just letting it idle. You can idle it and work the throttle a little, but still not all that good. Without the higher rpms and normal driving situations stuff kind of sits in the engine and doesn't get blown out. It's kind of a losing situation if you're not driving, but I usually stick to letting it run, maybe spend some time in the driveway when I can't take it out on the streets over the winter, but I only do this maybe once every 2 weeks or so. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 227 Registered: 3-2002 |
Would keeping the car idle with the engine on like 3 times a week for 20 mins each be almost as good as driving it? ( to prevent engine parts from getting defective)? | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 205 Registered: 3-2002 |
Martin, I have seen points deducted for too low a mileage at a concourse as well. The Bentley club has a staging area several miles from the judging area. Cars must be driven from the staging area to the judging area. This ensures the cars are kept road worthy. This is also done at Pebble Beach (not required, but in the event of a tie, if only one car was driven, it will automatically win). I believe Cavallino now has a "Preservation" award just for low mileage cars. We will never settle this debate, I fall some where in the middle. I put about 3,000 miles a year on my F355, I have put 2,000 miles on the F40 since October. My wife puts 4,000 a year on her Dino. But, I could see putting significant mileage on a 550 if I take that plunge. Everybody is right, some are just more right! | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 204 Registered: 3-2002 |
I would like to say that some cars may have started life as a "garage queen" and are now living the good life with no negative consequences. I hope I can say this without causing a problem. Magoo's car for example, may have been a "garage queen" when he bought it, but if he is driving 1,300 miles a year, while low, it is respectable, and not a "garage queen" any longer, IMHO. I respect the miles put on by a "perfectionist". Proof you can enjoy driving and polishing! At what point does a car become a "garage queen"? less than 250, less than 500, less than 1,000 miles a year? | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2002 |
Rickrain, You do certainly have your right to your opinion as do I. I choose not to use my car as an every day driver, and even if I had a brand new Ferrari, I wouldn't. And by the way, I think Kinkaid (SIC ) Art sucks. Just my own opinion. Bill | ||
| 1989 328 GTS (Vilamoura2002)
Member Username: Vilamoura2002 Post Number: 361 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ferrari is a piece of art, but should be driven. 500 miles in 12 years is a joke :-( I feel sorry for "her" | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2001 |
Ric and Dane are absolutely correct.. Drive and enjoy. I've put 3000 miles including 300 track miles on my new 360 Spider in the first 3 months and would not trade one of them for restoring "lost value" When you are on your death bed I am sure you don't want to think "I wish I had driven my Ferrari more"! Remember, keeping score is not how many toys you have collected, its how many toys you have worn out. My 2 cents. | ||
| Dane Sander (Dane_sander)
New member Username: Dane_sander Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2002 |
Just drive it. | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2002 |
So who cares if the car will be valuable in 10, 20, or 40 years. I'll most likely be dead in 40. I don't think I would really find a low-mileage car to be much use in a coffin. If your descendants want to enjoy the car, they can fork over a 150 thousand 2042 dollars and have the car restored by Bob Smith's grandson. I've restored 2 Ferraris and am currently restoring two more. Why? So I can enjoy them as they were built to be enjoyed. Run 'em up, ring 'em out, wear them out and do it all over again. I put 22K miles on a 308 in just under two years, and it was a blast. The car was my daily driver most of that time. I wouldn't trade any of those miles back for any "lost value". I kept the car in top shape and even did an engine out service for the new owner (at my expense), right before I sold it so he could (if he desired) drive it as much. A good friend has just finished putting 22K miles on his 360 in the first 14 months of ownership (including 4K track miles). He on his third set of brake rotors, 4th set of street tires and (I think) his 8th set of brake pads (The cars is flawless cosmetically and in top shape mechanically, BTW). He was lamenting about the possible loss of equity, so I asked him "Would you take back any of those miles if you could get your [lost] money back". He thought a minute, grinned, and said "No, not at all." When my 360 spyder arrives, I hope to have the highest mileage 360 on record when the warranty expires... On the other hand, I'm an economic Libertarian, and if someone wants to spend 30K or more on something to sit and look at it, so be it. It's your dough. I don't understand it, but I accept that it's your "right" to do so. If a car that has over 10,000 copies is "art", then maybe you should consider some nice Thomas Kincade(sp?) paintings. Don't take me wrong, I'm not complaining. It's kinda like the whole coffee-can muffler thing... I just don't get it. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2653 Registered: 2-2001 |
Enjoying your Ferrari is every persons special thing. It might not work for you but it works for the next guy. If his happiness is found in the way he drives his Ferrari then that is how it should be. He paid for it and enjoys it as he wishes. Whatever makes you happy. BRGDS, | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2002 |
Rickrain, I have a difference of opinion. The Ferrari is not Just A car. They are works of art. And yes the contempoary cars are not worth a lot, but 40 Years from now they will be the cars that people like us will drool over and say wow, it only cost $230,00 dollars in 2002. Why didn't grandpa buy two of them! I do own a house that I only stay at for a few months a year. And I think it is pretty special! It is also very small!!! And savoring is OK too. I am in my garage right now savoring the sights that I never dreamed I would behold. Bill | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
New member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2001 |
If more than 200 people have the same kind of car I have it will be driven the way I was BORN N RAISED to drive it.probably the only exception is the 69 V W CONVERTIBLE tye dyed waterbed in my daughters rainforest hippie bedroom,bamboo cane walls,thatch south wall,rattan matt ceiling astro turf floor 18 foot hawaiian tropical sunset mural,rainbow hammock, rice paper dragonfly kites,floting manilla rope bamboo computer table,MAN wwhat was I thinking last summer when we re did the whole house does any body spoil their daughters theres neon hippie stuff evrywhere.MAN since I built this room I never really stopped to appreciate my own talent either Im insane or I just really love and spoil my kids too much... | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 1195 Registered: 2-2001 |
Sounded a little kinky. I want to party with you. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 389 Registered: 3-2001 |
The tube is the subway system in London.... great way to get around town. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 1188 Registered: 2-2001 |
A Tube? | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Junior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 153 Registered: 12-2001 |
I agree Ric, If I had an 860 monza, it would sit more than it was used but I would still use it at least once a week. My 308 will never be worth a million bucks and it isnt rare as far as ferraris go so I use it. There is no point in letting it sit so I can stare at it from time to time. We dont really own them (looking at the big picture) we are just caretakers. Either mine will get destroyed by some unfortunate event or someone else will own it in the future, so why not enjoy it instead of saving it for the next person to enjoy. Drive the f-ing thing, its a car, a source of transportation intended to be used. My 308 has 143k on it and I intend to add several thousand more a year. | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 76 Registered: 2-2002 |
I guess I just don�t get it then. I see the Ferrari�s as special cars, yes, but they�re just cars. To me it would be the same as owning a house, but only living in it 2 or 3 weeks a year to savor the �specialness� of the house. Since houses, cars, yachts, etc. do degrade over time and they cost money to own whether you use them or not. Further, I don�t see the contemporary Ferraris as �art� or �collectable� as they are not rare enough to warrant such a designation. The market proves this point. The only possible exception might be the F50, since it�s the only contemporary Ferrari that seems to have very strong long-term valuation. As for the �savoring� aspect, this also doesn�t work for me, as I enjoy driving almost any Ferrari as much as my first time driving one. Perhaps more so, since I�ve gone so much further into the aspects of road course racing, and now feel I have a better command over cars in general, including the Ferarris. My frequent use of the Ferraris has afforded me access to other people�s Ferraris, not just as a passenger, but as driver. These opinions, of course, are my own. Your mileage may vary. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 605 Registered: 9-2001 |
ross, when I am in london I could drive your cars for you if you want  | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
New member Username: Ross Post Number: 46 Registered: 3-2002 |
just to clarify and defend my position. i don't get to drive much more than what i mentioned. period. that goes for any car. i live in central london, and there is no parking at work so i either ride my motorcycle, or take the tube (which i hate). so i would love to be able to drive more, but can't. that is also why i usually engineer some kind of driving vacation into the yearly schedule. all that being said, i took a nice 100 mile roundtrip in the 512 this morning....grinning ear to ear. | ||
| Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
New member Username: Qferrari Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2002 |
The 'sipping' analogy amuses me...for if you open a bottle of fine wine & only sip, you'd best finish it as it spoils quickly...Then, all you've ever had is a bunch of small sips, never a true taste. There's a saying, by Charles Dickens(in 1841) with which I'll take editorial privelage here: "Life, like wine (and Ferraris) can't be tasted in a sip". | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 439 Registered: 2-2001 |
No sipping for me. I must be a gulper, I have put about 5800 miles on my car in a year and a half. | ||
| Ralph R. Ebba (328gtb)
New member Username: 328gtb Post Number: 10 Registered: 2-2002 |
GUILTY.. Garage Queen Owner! I agree with Magoo, "sip it and enjoy" | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2638 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bill, I agree you know what your car is and you drive it as you wish. Enjoy, | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2002 |
Wow, I didn'n know there was a right way and wrong way to own a Ferrari! I love these cars and the history that makes them what they are. For me owning Ferrari's is an honor, not something of prestige or ego. I will happily drive my 250GT a few times a year, for a short distance, no Fila driving shoes on my feet, ( Probably Work Boots )over any new Ferrari there is. ( Any day of the week ) | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2631 Registered: 2-2001 |
RIC, The car is one of others I have. I don't use it for a daily driver and I drive it occasionally. Why did I buy it? PERSONAL PREFERENCE. I enjoy it when I want to. And I really like the style and year of the car I bought. It's like fine wine, You don't drink it all at one time you sip it and enjoy. Get my drift? | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2630 Registered: 2-2001 |
Billy Z, I agree with you. What is also a mind blower are people who buy these cars, have a lot of money, park them tire of them then later get another to offset their bordem. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 386 Registered: 3-2001 |
Martin, you deducted points in a concours event because of low mileage? Or was this a popular vote event based on a handful of judges? Just curious, I've been checking the net for concours forms and can't find any forms which deduct for low mileage. I've been entering cars in concours events for more than 15 years.... never heard of a low mileage penalty. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2002 |
I thought my comments might get some responce, and thanks for all the input. But really guys I can appreciate your zeal for driving, beleive me I have owned 5 XKE's, three Mark 2 Jag sedans, one 280Z, and currently have a 1966 Jaguar Mark 2 with 25,000 Miles on it, a 1959 250 GT with about a zillion miles on it ( who knows? ), as well as the 308 QV. I am a certified workaholic, and do work seven days a week. It is very hard to find time to take these cars out regularly, but I try to. By the way Kennedy, your math is correct, but I do have a nice time for a few minutes. Have any of you guys wondered where those really old low milage, original condition cars come from? Well send the award this way 40 years from now! I probably won't be here though! There is way more to the Ferrari than just driving these cars. I find working on my cars more satisfying than almost anything I can think of, and have enjoyed every moment of Ferrari ownership as much as you Anti-Garage Queen owners. And by the way, whats all this crap about driving shoes? I wear my work boots when I drive, oh God here we go again! Bill | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 72 Registered: 2-2002 |
"I have put only 500 miles on the car in 12 years." "I have put only 2600 miles on it since I bought it. Yep, a Garage Queen and a nice one." I'm really curious about the mindset involved here... why did you buy the car at all? | ||
| Mark (Study)
Junior Member Username: Study Post Number: 228 Registered: 10-2001 |
Reading this reminds me of all my friends that bought boats and then ended up never using them. I wonder what kind of guy buys a F-car and then finds out that he doesn't have driving in his blood? I use to think I was a show-off for wanting a F-car, but when I really look deep, I just like the thrill from driving fast. Has nothing to do with what people think. | ||
| billy zissis (89tr)
Junior Member Username: 89tr Post Number: 170 Registered: 4-2001 |
Just came back from the dealer Ferrari of Long Island and saw two cars there that brought me to tears. A 1992 512 tr with 700 miles and a 1996 355 with under 2000 miles. Why buy these cars? I was talking to the parts guy and he says the same thing. It's a damn shame that these people never drive thier cars. They do not know what they are missing. It's true that this is an American phenomenon. I drive my fcars literally everyday. Investing in cars (we're talking about latemodel cars) is alot like investing in dot coms. Waste of money. Two people are selling their TRs. One guy has 30,000 miles and is selling it for 65g and the other one has 1000 miles and is selling it for 75g. Who enjoyed the car more? | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
New member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2001 |
Just showing or not driving your Ferrari as It was meant to be driven is like having a beautiful Italian mistress you just hold hands with and no more. Enzo woulld throw up. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 816 Registered: 9-2001 |
I agree that all Ferraris should be driven. This not driving a Ferrari much is mostly an American phenomenon. If you go to Europe you will see that most of the Ferraris there have lots of miles on them sometimes as much as a couple 100k or more. Routine maintenance there seems to be less costly as well. | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 284 Registered: 2-2001 |
Martin, I think you hit the nail right on the head, "... you need to live more!". That is exactly my first impression when I see a low mileage car of the caliber of Ferrari. The owner needs to get a life! There are some collector cars that is better to leave sitting in the garage, but never a Ferrari. If you want to experience the feeling, the essence of owning a real sports car, you have to drive the darn thing as often as you can. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1983 Registered: 5-2001 |
At the FOC St. Armands Cirlce show I was a judge for the Testarossa and 512TR-class. There was a 1990 TESTAROSSA with only 2000 Miles. The owner did the same thing. Just trailered it from show to show. We actually deducted points for the low miles. 1st was a 512 TR from Carl, who tracks his car everytime he can and still manages to keep it beautiful and clean dispite 25K Miles. So it does not even pay to "save" your car for the Concourse days. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1982 Registered: 5-2001 |
Ross you need to live more! Drive it more, unless you have a 550 as your daily driver | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
New member Username: Ross Post Number: 45 Registered: 3-2002 |
this thread brings to mind another question: if i can't drive my fcar daily, what do i do to keep things from disintegrating. my current 'maintenance' schedule is that i drive it around a little in town approximately every 2-3 weekends; i do about 4-6 trips of 50-150 miles roundtrip a year; and about once a year i take it on a longer multi day high speed trip; i change the oil and anything else necessary at least once a year. so far after 2.5 years, this has served me well and i have put on about 3500 miles without any real issues. any comments from the cognoscenti ? | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
New member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2002 |
To have a Ferrari and then not drive it. Hmmmmmmm There should be "Hot Car" police who strip negligent owners who never drive their cars of ownership and force them to sell. If your never going to drive it and only want it to look at.... buy a large scale model, some nice prints for your wall and a video collection. I know of a guy with a 288GTO that has less than 200 miles on it. Its in permanent storage, he calls it his retirement plan. What an idiot (and yes, I call him that directly.... he doesnt seem to mind). I know of another PCA guy with an '86 911 Turbo with under 1000 miles. He trailers it back and forth to concourse events. Wouldnt dare drive it because a suspension arm may get a paint chip.... He should be shot! Its a free country and of coarse folks can do what they like, but what an incredible waste of both money and a great car. I have owned some very low mileage cars including Porsche and E-Type Jags. Its been my experience that a very low mileage car is going to require tons of maintenance. Every hydraulic seal, oil seal and weatherstripping piece is going to be dry rotted and need replacing. I have also seen these types of cars that sit in storage have the cylinders squirted with oil or a protectant resulting in rings that will never seat. Yet the owner of such a gem thinks the low mileage makes the car worth so much more..... obviously not to me. I guess I just dont get the "possession" buzz as opposed to the joy of driving. Terry | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1963 Registered: 5-2001 |
My planter costs surely less than Bill's planter! | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 365 Registered: 10-2001 |
Just to clarify my points: I agree a car should be DRIVEN. It's a car for god sakes and that what they do. It will work better with moderate use as well. But if I'm buying a 20+ year old car I wouldn't reject a non-driven low mile queen IF I budgeted the extra maintainence and purchase price in to my budget. For most people buying older Ferraris however, a moderate to higher mileage car that has been well cared for is usually a much better purchase. | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 474 Registered: 12-2001 |
"What's the point of having the bread if you don't have the teeth"...old Italian saying. Although my car has low mileage due to WINTER.....I take him out every chance I get.....500 miles in 12 years??? Plant pansies in it like Martin does to his car | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Junior Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2002 |
Bill, That seems a little too extreme. How do you enjoy the car? Driving a Ferrari is part of the whole experience of owning one, not keeping in a garage. Drive that baby | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1960 Registered: 5-2001 |
...even the heavy hitter-collectors drive their cars more than that! | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1959 Registered: 5-2001 |
I am with Brian on this. Why pay a premium for a low miles car just to perform another $5,000 Service to be able to drive a car? Does not make sense to me. Does not make sense to me either to own a car and have it sitting in a garage for 12 years and drive it only 500 Miles during that time. | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 473 Registered: 12-2001 |
But Mitchel - I'm sure he had a couple laps of fun right? I'd love to do 2 laps in an F-40 on a track!........(sigh) | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 384 Registered: 3-2001 |
Carfax is a pretty effective way to determine actual mileage. I ran one on mine and it went back to the early days... my car also came out of Vancouver, BC. Everything synched up with the information I already had on the car. | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 510 Registered: 6-2001 |
When I was at a Ferrari Days event at Road Atlanta in the mid 90s, I remember drooling over a recently aquired F40 in the pits getting ready to go out for a few laps. The guy just bought the car, from a person who never even drove the damn thing. So heres this 450 mile F40, about the embark on its first heated laps....what happens?? Anyone anyone?? Yep, it was towed back into the pits with 2 blow turbo seals. DOHH! For some reason the schmuck never did a service on the car and just put it on the track. NICE! | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 364 Registered: 10-2001 |
We've been through the 'garage queen' syndrome before. The advantage is little to no wear in the interior, nice paint, etc. Disadvantages are you pay for low miles in purchase $$ and all rubber things should get attention. My Lotus was driven like 250 miles the 7 years before I bought it and after routine maintainence and upkeep it's been a strong runner for a year now. I've put on 2500 miles myself, so I wouldn't reject a low mile car out of hand if you understand what you're getting. That being said, a higher mileage car will likely have the bugs worked out already so that's a point too. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 69 Registered: 3-2002 |
500 miles in 12 years! [math wheels churning] So, figuring about 4 miles each year to go get the oil changed... that leaves 450 miles for fun... assuming you take it out at least once every other month, that's less than 7 miles per trip. It takes mine about 10 miles for the drive train to get warmed up good. Has the car even gotten warmed up once in the last 12 years, let alone been driven hard? [That's so sad... poor wittle Ferrari...] Now, see, for me... I would *never* buy your car, Bill... nothing against you, Bill... I'd just be afraid the first time I took it out for a serious jaunt (in over a decade) that the poor thing would just fall to pieces. But maybe that's just me. Brian | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2614 Registered: 2-2001 |
What Frank says is very tue. Be sure beyond all doubts that the mileage is correct and if you have doubts no matter how low the mileage is offer accordingly or drop it if you are uncomfortable about it. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2613 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bill same here . Bought a 79 308 GTS 2yrs. ago with 5200 documented miles on it and I mean verifiable proof. I have put only 2600 miles on it since I bought it. Yep, a Garage Queen and a nice one. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
New member Username: Glassman Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2002 |
You should always verify service records and get them with the car. This will help verify the milage. And don't be afraid of low milage cars, I have a 308GTS I bought with 20,000miles on it. I have put only 500 miles on the car in 12 years. Maybe that is called a Garage Queen, but I don't really care! | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 68 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ignoring the criminal side of this for a moment... I'd comfort the guy by telling him that the car, if driven and maintained, is likley to perform far better for him than if it really was a garage queen that only got driven 2500 miles in 13 years! Ferrari's were built to be driven... the most problematic ones are the garage queens... unless, of course, he just bought it to keep in the garage. FWIW, Brian P.S. The seller still belongs in jail. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Junior Member Username: Whart Post Number: 231 Registered: 12-2001 |
Frank isn't it a crime that the authorities would be willing to prosecute? What is the legal relationship between Canada and the Bahamas; perhaps the guy can be regarded as "on the lam" and the authorities could make his life really miserable (eg pilot license renewal, etc) without your client spending alot of money on the civil side. In short, just ruin the other guy's life. | ||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 471 Registered: 12-2001 |
well - hopefully he maintained the car well, then mileage shouldn't be that much of an issue. Those Canadians! Nika | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 808 Registered: 9-2001 |
I just received a telephone call from a guy who bought a 1989 328GTS from a fellow in Vancover. The odometer showed 2500 miles and the owner/seller signed an Odometer Statement to that effect. The proud new owner has uncovered a document from Canada which showed the car as being inspected at 5000 miles. 9000 miles and 15,000 miles some time ago. The seller ia a Canadian Air pilot and now lives in the Bahamas. While he can still sue the fellow and try to have him locked up, as long as he resides in the Bahamas it will be difficult and expensive. So, beware when you see a over 10 year old car with very low miles. It may not be true ! |