| Author | Message | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
New member Username: Scott Post Number: 49 Registered: 6-2001 |
Guys, thanks for all the input. Regarding the "bucking"--when it has done it to me my foot has been absolutely solidly braced against the tunnel. It happens in straights, in happens in turns, it happens when cold, it happens when warm--a dealer visit is in order. Regarding the weird startup behavior--I do always let the OK appear before starting, it has only been cold in Oregon--so all I can say is it only happens after sitting three or four days--so it is always bone cold. I haven't tried the different gas thing--worth a shot. And, no, my foot is no where near the gas pedal on start-up. Regarding the 360 aesthetics. I always thought the 355 was a far nicer design. To me, the central dash on the 360 reminds me of a Previa minivan. And, although it looks far better in person (and, of course, I now think it is the most beautiful thing on the planet), I think the rear flanks, from some angles, are..uhmm..different. BUT...one drive in the 360 and I was hooked--the increased flexibility of the engine, the balance and stiffness of the chassis, the roominess of the driver's compartment--bliss. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 230 Registered: 3-2002 |
BretM contrary to what you think, I love the 360's exterior but HATE the interior..I find the gauges and steering wheel to small and too futureistic..I prefer the simpleness of the 355's interior or the 550's. I dont like the 360's at all. Also I strongly dislike aluminum and carbon fiber on an interior of a ferrari IMO | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 75 Registered: 3-2002 |
On #2, is your foot on the gas at all? The only time I've had it die is when it was running a little low/rough and I tried to give it a little gas... at that point, it handed control over to me and I was actually lower than it... stall. I have found if I just leave the computer to handle it, it eventually gives it enough gas to get it running smoothly. On #1... never seen anything like that at steady speed! I'd definitely try to reproduce that for your dealer. On the gas guage, it is not uncommon for the gas guages to be flaky. However, I've also found that certain gas stations pumps seem to cut off prematurely in the 360. In fact, I had to switch from my "usual" station because of that. Brian | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
New member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2002 |
1) this may simply be a point where the engine is comming on strong, and the acceleration of the car is lifting the drivers foot off the gas. When the gas pedal lifts, the engine goes down on power, slowing the car, the drivers foot lurches forward. See if the driver can sit closer to the pedals or organize his/her position better with respect to the control surfaces. 2) Try different gas stations to see if its fuel related. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2522 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good to hear it's not Italian. I have to admit that I hated the 360 when it came out, absolutely hated it and loved the 355. The 360 has really grown on me though. If I was ready to buy one it would be a tough choice to say the least. I love the 355 size and exterior looks, but the 360s interior is a lot nicer IMO and even though the 355 has a slight edge in exhaust note, how can you beat the power of 360s engine coupled with the all aluminum and therefore lower weight body and frame. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2026 Registered: 5-2001 |
Guess you should have bought a Euro 360, their gauges are always right on.  just kidding. No idea. If it is always at the same RPM I would say dealer. If it varies in the RPM check for fuel ventilation on the gas cap. Especially if the car is hot and the air is hot. Vapor pressure can cause the car to stall. The other thing is temps not up for all systems. They may have some computer limiter on it. Or if that only happens in a turn, maybe fuel injection. Or check on all cables for the spark plugs. Certain RPM viration may give a quick disconnect. These may be stupid suggestions I am really not a mechanic. | ||
| z. b. (Cheeseman)
New member Username: Cheeseman Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2002 |
its all bosch motronic 7.1. be sure to let the ok signal on the display come on before you start the engine. this ensures that both ecus are powered up as well as the fuel pressure. if it still does it take it to the dealer. | ||
| Norm Plaistowe (Normp)
New member Username: Normp Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2001 |
Bret, Lucas | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2518 Registered: 2-2001 |
I don't think the bucking is a normal thing regarding the power of the cars. There is no cam overlap between the exhaust and intake in these cars anymore so I can't picture them having trouble designed into the engine when not at high rpms. I think Willis hit it with the computer system. Wow, come to think of it, a computer throttle is a scary though when considering how the Italians make electronics. Is it a bosch system or marelli or neither? | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
New member Username: Scott Post Number: 48 Registered: 6-2001 |
Tako--My gas guage never reads full either--the best I can do is two bars above half full. Another charming Ferrari idiosyncracy. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2002 |
1) I think this is typcal thing of high HP car, isn't it?? Before I got used to mine, I had difficulty to start slow. U need to control your foot to keep steady and push gradually. Otherwise, F's gonna take control, not you.... I finally got used to starting slow. 2) I had never had this problem. However, my gas meter never shows "full" even if it is full. Do you have this problem?? | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Junior Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 115 Registered: 1-2002 |
Don't know about the bucking, but my 348 used to do what you describe on cold starts, but only during warm weather. I assumed the temperature sensor wasn't working right, but never did anything about it. Dave | ||
| Robert Jude Klein (Rjklein4470)
Junior Member Username: Rjklein4470 Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2002 |
Scott, Ok maybe I can shed some light on this subject. First of all look at the gauges, and tell me where the oil, water, temps are when this happens. It has happened to me but only when the oil, and water temps are not up yet. If it happens to you when the temps are up, I would say call the dealer? | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 663 Registered: 8-2001 |
The drive-by-wire throttle probably hit an in-between point or dead spot. This confuses the computer sensors as to your intentions. Cold starts can be interesting. I haven't had the engine die on me yet. I remember the service manager mentioned something about a temperature sensor kicking in at certain ambient temperature. Check with your dealer about this. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 221 Registered: 3-2002 |
sh*t happens, good thing it can be buffed out | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
New member Username: Scott Post Number: 47 Registered: 6-2001 |
My neighbor is a very good friend. Not to get off topic, but his one sin when he drove it was clipping an apex on a freeway on-ramp and brushing the passenger mirror against some roadside vegetation. Very small scratches, which will buff out, but the daily grief factor is worth not fixing them for now. He drives a seriously modded S4, and understands how not to fry a clutch. | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
New member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2002 |
Sorry I cant solve your problems but damn, you let your neighbor drive your 6 speed F360? I wish I had a neighbor like you. | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
New member Username: Scott Post Number: 44 Registered: 6-2001 |
2 (long, sorry) Questions. 1) At part throttle, on rare occasions there is an "on-off" throttle oscillation. Let me explain. When I let both my wife and neighbor drive the Modena for the first time, they experienced a "bucking" like their foot was pulsing the throttle. This was at 3-4K rpm, and they were attempting to hold a steady speed. I had assumed that they got scared by the acceleration, backed off, and when the car bucked forward their foot then re-applied the throttle--a viscious circle. Since then, the car has done it to me twice--in second gear, and I'm sure my foot wasn't moving. Any thoughts? 2) On cold start (after not running for 3 days or so), the engine will catch, idle poorly at about 400 rpm, then die. When I restart, it runs fine with the typical 1300 rpm warm up. Any thoughts and any connection? Thanks--post or e-mail me privately if more information is needed. |