| Author | Message | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 255 Registered: 2-2002 |
Wait! The part # I posted came from an early 308 GTS/GTB parts book. The P/Ns must be the same for the GT/4. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 62 Registered: 8-2002 |
Peter, so #108822 is out of a GT4, not a "regular" 308 carb and the picture *does* match your car? Hmm, I wonder if the shaft of a "regular" 308 carb carb car is somewhere in between in length? My QV shaft is same threads, length to bottom of the ball is aprox 6-3/4". | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2029 Registered: 12-2000 |
Okay, so I should've read Ric's post a little better and see that he posted the GT4 part# 108822 (and that would've stopped me from running all the way downstairs to the garage...). In that case here are the specs: -Stalk height (measured from top of gate to bottom of ball, in neutral): 4 3/4" -Stalk diameter: 7.5mm -Threading: 10 X 1.25mm | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2028 Registered: 12-2000 |
Which older 308? My GT4 shifter stalk looks taller than the one pictured on the left... If I remember correctly, the threading looked to me like it was rolled, not cut (thread rolling is stronger, but as a result, is wider than the shank - shifter stalk). Damn technical threads like this always get me up, make me run down to the garage and start taking things apart. I'll be back with a response to this... | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 60 Registered: 8-2002 |
GREG: I got your email, and sent you one back... let me know if you DID NOT get it this time (again). Mike | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 59 Registered: 8-2002 |
Yep, this *is* a wonderful resource! The photo on the left is Ric's car with the older shift lever, and the photo on the right is my stock QV (though with an 46mm Aluminum shift ball on it). There is quite a bit of difference in shaft length! I was quite surprised to see that much of a difference.  | ||
| Phil Bryson (Phildo)
New member Username: Phildo Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2002 |
Gotta say, this is an amazing site - a guy floats an idea and, in less than 24 hours, someone hands him a part number!!! | ||
| Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain Post Number: 250 Registered: 2-2002 |
My 308 GTSi has the short shift lever from a earlier carb car. It's a drop-in replacement for the original part. I like it and recommend it. The early P/N is 10882, but they may be hard to find. | ||
| Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson Post Number: 822 Registered: 12-2001 |
Greg is right. The carb 308s have much smaller shifter stalks. Why don't you purchase one from a carb 308. It should fit just fine. It is true that it will take more force to shift but it will be much faster. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 345 Registered: 4-2001 |
Mike, I put on a new shift knob from www.titaniumcavallino.com..... I'm not sure, but It might be drilled deeper than the stock knob, and the lock nut fits into the bottom of it as well.... At any rate it lowers the shift knob on the shifter a bit giving a better appearance, and a shorter throw. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 52 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's not a practical comparison, because you can't have your palm over the ball like "normal". | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2014 Registered: 2-2001 |
Grab the shifter about half way down and then shift it and see how it feels. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ed: I presume by "effort" you mean "force" because of less leverage on a shorter stalk. But I would think that the lesser "distance" would/could make it feel like it was no more "force" than the long-throw if you didn't go too far in cutting the stalk height. You'd be balance distance and speed with leverage, potentially improving the overall shifting. That's what I'm looking for. Certainly "short shift kits" have been around for a long time for a lot of other cars. I seem to remember I even had one in my '64 VW Bug! Mike | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2003 Registered: 2-2001 |
That would work but the effort to shift would increase. | ||
| Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas Post Number: 456 Registered: 3-2001 |
The earlier 308s have a much shorter shifter. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
New member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2002 |
I had the opportunity to drive a 360 Spider last weekend, and one of the things I noticed (I've got a 308QV) among other wonderful differences is that the shifter stalk is quite a bit shorter, which of course makes a shorter throw. I've thought of shortening my shift stalk (actually get another one and cutting and re-threading it) to accomplish that in my 308. Is there any reason NOT to do that? If you look at other modern sports cars such as BMWs, Miatas and others, they all keep it "tight" and "short". |